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Applying While Asian
Jewish World Review ^ | December 16, 2011 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 12/16/2011 5:56:28 AM PST by reaganaut1

To check or not to check the Asian box? That is the pointed choice faced by Asian-American students applying to gain admission to what are supposed to be the most tolerant places on Earth, the nation's colleges. The Associated Press ran a report on Asian students of mixed parentage checking "white," if possible, on their applications to avoid outing themselves as Asians. The Princeton Review Student Advantage Guide counsels Asian-American students not to check the race box and warns against sending a photo.

In a culture that makes so much of celebrating ethnic heritage, especially of racial minorities, and that values fairness above all, Asian-American students think that they need to hide their ethnicity because the college admissions process is so unfair. If African-American motorists fear that they will be pulled over by the cops for the phantom offense of "Driving While Black," these kids worry about what will happen to them when "Applying While Asian."

Studies have demonstrated what every Asian parent and kid knows: Asians are discriminated against in the admissions process. They are disadvantaged vis-a-vis other minorities and perhaps vis-a-vis whites. The Center for Equal Opportunity, a think tank opposed to racial preferences, in a 2005 study looked at a male applying to the University of Michigan from in state who had no parental connection to the school. If he had a 1240 SAT score and a 3.2 GPA, he had a 92 percent chance of admission if black and 88 percent if Latino.

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Stephen Hsu, a professor of physics at the University of Oregon and an outspoken critic of current admission practices, laments that Asians seem strangely accepting of the unfair treatment of their children. The official Asian-American groups tend to support anti-Asian quotas because they are captives of liberal orthodoxy before all else.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: asianamericans; diversity; highereducation; preferences
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I'm "Asian", and the left-wing Asian-American groups do not represent me.
1 posted on 12/16/2011 5:56:31 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Well, guess they are getting a little taste of what it’s like to be a WASP male in today’s society.

I know it sucks, but maybe now more of them will vote Republican next election as a result.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 6:01:04 AM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: reaganaut1

I’m “Hispanic” and feel the same way about the left-wing Hispanic-American group.

On a side note, most people think I am Italian! Kinda funny.


3 posted on 12/16/2011 6:02:10 AM PST by jrestrepo (See you all in Galt's gulch)
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To: reaganaut1

I’m seeing more and more Asian kids with “white” names, like John and David. Smart parents, doing their best to mask them.


4 posted on 12/16/2011 6:04:27 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Ernie Kaputnik

When the whole “redlining” bullcrap was going on, the leftist agitators were all up in arms about the disparity of “white vs black” levels of approval for mortgage loans.
Yes, when loans were approved on the merits of the applicant, blacks were rejected at higher rates than whites. BUT, the agitators didn’t address the other disparity - Asians were approved at higher rates than whites.

All based, not on racial discrimination, but on financial ability to repay the loan.


5 posted on 12/16/2011 6:05:06 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: jrestrepo

There’s a Thai man in our office that gets mistaken for Mexican/Hispanic all the time. He says people will come up to him and start speaking Spanish to him.


6 posted on 12/16/2011 6:06:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: reaganaut1

I know one student that was denied admission to the University of Maryland. She had to go to Montgomery Community College for a year. I never understood why this happened since her G.P.A. was extremely high and she did super well on her SAT’s. Many of her white and black friends got admitted to Maryland with a much less G.P.A. and SAT score (I forgot to mention she is Asian). This type of discrimination (and I will call it that since admittance is being denied based on race rather than true merit) now has me wondering about my youngest daughter (adopted from China). Should she check “other” rather than Asian?! Shouldn’t she be admitted to a university based on her merit rather than her race?


7 posted on 12/16/2011 6:07:12 AM PST by momtothree
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To: reaganaut1
They are disadvantaged vis-a-vis other minorities and perhaps vis-a-vis whites.

Perhaps? This is a backhanded admission of discrimination against whites too, but don't wait for any special article about that.

Stephen Hsu, a professor of physics at the University of Oregon and an outspoken critic of current admission practices, laments that Asians seem strangely accepting of the unfair treatment of their children.

It would be un-PC if anybody lamented that whites "seem strangely accepting of the unfair treatment of their children."

8 posted on 12/16/2011 6:08:15 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: momtothree

My children are mixed race, white and Asian. They are 1/4 Taiwanese. 3/4 white. When my youngest daughter was looking at colleges a few years ago, she noticed that in California- an Asian person needed a higher SAT to get into the colleges there. She quit checking Asian then. She is now “white”. My husband quit checking Asian years ago for the same reason.


9 posted on 12/16/2011 6:13:23 AM PST by republicangel
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To: reaganaut1

A last name of Hu or Chu doesn’t provide a clue?


10 posted on 12/16/2011 6:13:25 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: reaganaut1

Do we still have affirmative action for certain ethnic groups? There is a strong case that WASP males have become the underclass in America and definitely underrepresented in Ivy League and Harvard. We need a box for them as a means to determine exactly how much underrepresented.


11 posted on 12/16/2011 6:13:34 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: momtothree

My half Thai sons never had a problem with race. They do seem to prefer blond girls, which due to my Asian addicition I can’t understand.


12 posted on 12/16/2011 6:15:52 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: republicangel
I've advised me mixed race kids to avoid the race questions altogether. I've never believed in racial nose counting, its intrusive and is the diametric opposite of the way we in this country are supposed to look at the race issue.

Its the leftists who obsess on race.

13 posted on 12/16/2011 6:20:01 AM PST by skeeter
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To: reaganaut1

When you buy a gun, you have to — have to — list your race. What loathsome race-mongering.


14 posted on 12/16/2011 6:21:08 AM PST by pabianice (")
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To: reaganaut1

My great aunt was Asian—a White (as opposed to Red) Russian born and raised in China.


15 posted on 12/16/2011 6:28:52 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: rrstar96

ping


16 posted on 12/16/2011 6:29:23 AM PST by lsucat
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To: reaganaut1

who has it worse asian males or females?
i also suppose that the high rate of asian-white intermarriage will solve this.


17 posted on 12/16/2011 6:32:24 AM PST by hecht (Murray use your coaster)
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To: reaganaut1
I just check Native American since I was born here. Not sure why I'm lumped in with Eskimos and Aleuts.
18 posted on 12/16/2011 6:35:44 AM PST by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Fiji Hill

And if you were a Pakistani or Somali in England, you’d be listed as “Asian”.


19 posted on 12/16/2011 6:36:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: reaganaut1
I researched this recently.

In big round numbers, Asian kids need 100 SAT points more than white kids to get into a top-drawer undergrad program.

And white kids need **hundreds** of points more than hispanic or black kids.

20 posted on 12/16/2011 6:37:09 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I’m seeing more and more Asian kids with “white” names, like John and David. Smart parents, doing their best to mask them.

___________________

Black parents make it easy


21 posted on 12/16/2011 6:39:42 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: ASA Vet
They do seem to prefer blond girls, which due to my Asian addicition I can’t understand.

If wife #1 isn't Asian, wife #2 will be.

22 posted on 12/16/2011 6:51:21 AM PST by Reeses (TV gives men a window into what women want, and it isn't pretty.)
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To: reaganaut1

I leave the race blocks blank. If I am pressed to answer I check the `other` block and write in `human`


23 posted on 12/16/2011 6:56:52 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Forced diversity causes dissent!)
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To: skeeter

“... its intrusive and is the diametric opposite of the way we... are supposed to look at race”.

I couldn’t agree more. My youngest is in kindergarten and there was a discussion (brought forth by a book) about different languages. Some of the kids said they speak Spanish. One little girl spoke French. Well, a child asked my daughter if she spoke Chinese. Her response, “Do I look Chinese to you?! I speak English, of course”. My point is that she sees herself not as Chinese-American but fully American. IMHO, an American person (whether white, black, Asian, whatever) should be seen as American only. The secondary characteristics should be just that... secondary and simply an “outside” characteristic.


24 posted on 12/16/2011 7:01:59 AM PST by momtothree
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To: patriot08

“Black” parents understand the advantage of having a “black name”.


25 posted on 12/16/2011 7:01:59 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I’m seeing more and more Asian kids with “white” names, like John and David. Smart parents, doing their best to mask them.

If they really wanted to help their kids, they'd use names with apostrophes (like Lakawan'akesha) or other punctuation (L-sha (Ladasha)).

26 posted on 12/16/2011 7:04:38 AM PST by PAR35
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To: MrB

I want to see Obamas high school SATs. He is Asian you know because he came from Hawaii according to the story. If men can be women and little boys can be in girl scouts then I guess whites can be blacks. Just check the box!


27 posted on 12/16/2011 7:09:35 AM PST by taterjay
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To: republicangel

so being asian or white is a disadvantage, reverse discrimination.


28 posted on 12/16/2011 7:09:47 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: reaganaut1

I have two half-Japanese daughters. I check ‘other’ and let the state do the research themselves.


29 posted on 12/16/2011 7:09:59 AM PST by struggle
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To: momtothree
As a photographer and a photoshop person, I get a lot of Asian women contact me to have their eyes photoshopped to be more Caucasian in photos. Most of these photos are for college admissions. They feel that their Asian eyes hurt them.This really pains me because I think their eyes are very beautiful. Also, they change their names from their birth Asian name to a more European name, but they do keep their family name.Photobucket
30 posted on 12/16/2011 7:11:02 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: MrB

How could a Somali be “Asian”? Somalia is in Africa.


31 posted on 12/16/2011 7:12:23 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: taterjay

Check the box and scream racism if they challenge your self-identification.


32 posted on 12/16/2011 7:13:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Excuse my dumbness, but what ‘advantage’?


33 posted on 12/16/2011 7:14:27 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: taterjay

Blacks can be whites, Latinos can be Asian. The question is how did we arrive at this point? The ALgorism has finally come to fruition, ALL THAT IS UP IS DOWN!


34 posted on 12/16/2011 7:15:42 AM PST by taterjay
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To: reaganaut1
I'm a Native American and I'm proud of it!!

I never fail list myself as one!

35 posted on 12/16/2011 7:20:42 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry)
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To: Fiji Hill

The same way a Jamaican or Haitian is an “African American”.


36 posted on 12/16/2011 7:24:08 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: patriot08

What advantage? Why, “affirmative action” advantage, that’s what!

The very point of this article is that blacks need to score less than hispanics need to score less than whites need to score less than asians

to gain admission to college.

Also, on loan documents, “hispanic” or “african american” will get you higher loan approval rates for lower fico scores.


37 posted on 12/16/2011 7:27:06 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: baddog 219

What is amazing is if you were able to age my five year old to about 19.... they are very close in appearance. I love their eyes as well and you have to admit.. Asian women have such silky, smooth skin. Gorgeous! We did choose a more American sounding name (although her first and last are more Gaelic). The reason is simple: her Chinese name was more of a number and identification. The last name was from the region, first name was more of a county and the middle name was based on appearance. Hence, her last and first Chinese name was shared by the other nine in her group. All of us chose American first names and most (all but two) chose American middle names.


38 posted on 12/16/2011 7:40:20 AM PST by momtothree
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To: MrB
Oh, ok. That WAS dumb of me not to see that.
I was referring to the fact that when authorities protect the Amish, we can usually tell anyway by their given names.
39 posted on 12/16/2011 7:44:06 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Reeses
If wife #1 isn't Asian, wife #2 will be.

If you're referring to me, all 3 ex's were Asian.
My eldest son picked another big chested blond for his ex #2.
My youngest son is married to a beautiful blond. I think they are together for life.
The middle boy doesn't buy cows, but never seems to be without milk.

40 posted on 12/16/2011 7:53:27 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: reaganaut1

I have a Jewish friend who is descended from Aaron, whose story is told in the book of Exodus. Aaron, in turn, was descended from Abraham. Aaron was born in Egypt, and Abraham was born in Asia, so my friend can call himself an Asian-American or an African-American.


41 posted on 12/16/2011 8:03:37 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: A_perfect_lady
I’m seeing more and more Asian kids with “white” names, like John and David. Smart parents, doing their best to mask them.

If they were "really" smart, they'd name them Tyrone.

42 posted on 12/16/2011 8:10:46 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: A_perfect_lady
I’m seeing more and more Asian kids with “white” names, like John and David. Smart parents, doing their best to mask them.

John and David are Asian names. John comes from the Hebrew name Yôḥanan, which means "God is generous," and David comes from the Semitic name Dāwīḏ, the name of ancient Israel's great king.

43 posted on 12/16/2011 8:13:30 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: reaganaut1

Yep, it’s a dilemma, all right.

Asian American families tend to be more close-knit and more supportive than others, and Asian American students tend to study harder than anyone else and, accordingly, get better grades than anyone else - clearly not fair.

The only solution, in modern America, is to handicap these people to make room for those who don’t study, don’t give a r*t’s ass, and contribute little or nothing to campus life, while taking much.

That, after all, is the new American way.


44 posted on 12/16/2011 9:20:02 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: ASA Vet

“My half Thai sons never had a problem with race. They do seem to prefer blond girls, which due to my Asian addicition I can’t understand.”

Same here! I like to say my sons were “Assembled in USA from foreign and domestic components.” The older one used to say that since he was part Asian, he was supposed to be “sneaky”, LOL.


45 posted on 12/16/2011 9:31:33 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: reaganaut1

There is one way to keep racism alive, and that is to continue to treat “race” a largely artificial distinction based on physical features as relevant.

The only way to kill it is to prohibit the government, from recording or acknowledging anyone’s “race”, period.

Therefore I would suggest the following amendment to the United States Constitution:

“Neither the United States, nor the several states, nor any territory or federal district under the authority thereof, nor any agent, agency, corporation, or other entity operating under the authority of the executive, legislative, or judicial branches of the United States, the several states, or any territory or federal district shall make any distinction in law regarding the race, ethnicity, or ancestry of any person inhabiting the United States or any territory, federal district, or any other land under the authority thereof.

The officer, agent, or agency authorized by the Congress to carry out the enumeration of the population of the United States authorized by this constitution may ask questions in such enumeration regarding race or ancestry, but the answers to such questions may only be referenced for purposes of scientific research. Their use for any other purpose shall be prohibited by law.

This article shall not be so interpreted as to question the legal authority of any Indian Tribe as recognized by law prior to the first day of January in the year two-thousand one-hundred.

The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation, provided that the penalty for a violation shall be a fine of not less than one million dollars and not less than ten years imprisonment.”


46 posted on 12/16/2011 9:39:59 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: taterjay
If men can be women and little boys can be in girl scouts then I guess whites can be blacks.

That's it! I'm a transracial. I'm a half-black, half-asian, half-hispanic (yes, I know that's three halves) man trapped in a white man's body.

47 posted on 12/16/2011 10:07:26 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: USMCPOP

Along the same line as being “sneaky” -My youngest daughter is obsessed with Asian driver jokes. lol


48 posted on 12/16/2011 11:03:21 AM PST by republicangel
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To: momtothree
I have to agree. Asian women have the most beautiful skin I have ever seen. It has to be do to their diet. And Asian babies are the cutest that I have ever photographed.
49 posted on 12/16/2011 10:50:36 PM PST by baddog 219
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To: baddog 219
Stunning picture.

As for "Asian babies", I had 1/2 of one to call my own, at least for awhile, until Iraq took him.Photobucket Photobucket

50 posted on 12/17/2011 2:45:46 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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