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Gingrich, Republicans Complicit In Obama Health Care Restructuring
The American Thinker ^ | Dec. 15, 2011 | M. Catherine Evans

Posted on 12/16/2011 6:42:30 AM PST by hellbender

Dr. Jane Orient has been warning us for over two decades about the bipartisan push toward a nationalized healthcare system. The Tucson physician has been in private practice since 1981 and executive president of Association of American Physicians and Surgeons since 1989. She has written several books including Your Doctor Is Not In: healthy skepticism about national health care in 1994. Orient dates our present trite meme "ObamaCare" back to the Clinton era when Republicans, led by Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, "turned around and implemented on their own some of the very worst features of the Clinton plan."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; gingrich; republican

1 posted on 12/16/2011 6:42:41 AM PST by hellbender
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To: hellbender

More people will avoid doctors. There will be an underground medical services structure. Insurance will be cut of same. Already if you pruchase life insurance, all your answers to the questionnaire are RECORDED in a central database. The insurance companies are NOT your friend, they are reporting all kinds of information to these centralized data bases and it CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 6:49:16 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: hellbender

This article is pathetic drivel. The author would have us believe that some things done in 1994 has all the doctors so mad at Newt that they blame him for Obama Care. Sheesh, Obama was just a twinkle in Jeremiah Wrights eye at that point. The stretch is just absurd.

My brother is a doctor, adamantly opposed to Obama Care, and is a huge Newt supporter. A lot of doctor’s are. If this author wants to make a rational case against Newt, there are ways to do that. This is not one of them. In fact, this is such a stretch and so desperate that only folks predisposed to disliking Newt anyway will give it any credence.

It just falls in on itself.


3 posted on 12/16/2011 6:49:40 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: hellbender

The doctor is pissed at Newt because they made the penalties for fraud more severe.

This whole article reeks of stupidity.....such as a hatred of electronic records and prescriptions.


4 posted on 12/16/2011 6:49:50 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: hellbender
Orient dates our present trite meme "ObamaCare" back to the Clinton era when Republicans, led by Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, "turned around and implemented on their own some of the very worst features of the Clinton plan."

Just last week Gingrich said there were about 300 pages of Obamacare that he would implement.

Gingrich also said his goal for healthcare reform was to achieve "universal coverage":

This comprehensive approach—cost, quality, competition, and coverage—can solve the problem of the uninsured with no individual mandate and no employer mandate. Everyone would be able to obtain essential health care and coverage when needed. For those who are too poor to buy health insurance, states will have more flexibility to provide them with the assistance they need to buy it. For those who nevertheless choose not to purchase coverage and then become too sick to do so, high risk pools will provide access to coverage. Once you have health insurance, you are assured you can keep it. By contrast, even Obamacare for all its trillions in taxes, spending, new entitlements, and new bureaucracy still does not achieve universal coverage.

So, individuals won't be forced (mandated) to participate and employers won't be forced to participate, but everybody still gets FREE STUFF!!

For a discussion of this paragraph, if interested, start here at # 118.

5 posted on 12/16/2011 6:56:16 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Is that really you, C. Edmund Wright? This does not look like your writing.


6 posted on 12/16/2011 6:58:31 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: fightinJAG

It’s just my pre coffee - doing three things at once - didn’t get enough sleep - off the cuff rantings. Especially embarrassed that such a piece ran at Amer thinker.

sorry, it wasn’t too elegant I admit...


7 posted on 12/16/2011 7:04:33 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: yldstrk

“More people will avoid doctors. There will be an underground medical services structure.”

Medicare is basically a Police state. Characterizing coding errors as fraud is very chiling. We’re not talking about the Russian mafia selling medical equipment to dead people, we are talking about small errors and billing disputes.

More and more doctors will drop out of Medicare and other government insurance to avoid this insidious entrapment. In the near future, there will be an abundant supply of physicians with cash only practices willing to meet the needs of patients who want high quality, confidential, and readily accessible medical care.


8 posted on 12/16/2011 7:31:12 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Don’t worry, that never happens to me. lol /s

No harm done, I was just wondering if all was well.


9 posted on 12/16/2011 8:04:12 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: hellbender

I see, “ObamaCare” isn’t really Obama’s folly, it’s Gingrich that should be blamed. B/S, period.

GO GINGRICH GO............


10 posted on 12/16/2011 8:58:08 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: fightinJAG
The whole idea of health insurance is flawed. Insurance is to cover catastrophes which no individual can deal with. You do not buy home insurance to cover painting, plumbing, and other normal maintenance, and no one should expect health insurance to cover flu, colds, blisters, osteoarthritis, routine eye exams, etc. The Left advocated universal health insurance and HMOs knowing that they were just a stepping stone on the path to socialized medicine...oops, I mean "single-payer" coverage of everything. Having third parties, even private insurers, involved in every transaction between patient and doctor inevitably increases costs and compromises privacy.

Just think: should there be universal plumbing insurance? Mandatory car maintenance insurance? Only a socialist would think so.

11 posted on 12/16/2011 9:44:49 AM PST by hellbender
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To: hellbender

Yes. The Dems are determined to get socialized medicine one way or the other.


12 posted on 12/16/2011 11:13:25 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Ronald ReaganSpeaks Out Against Socialized Medicine.

It is unconscionable to not know where this leads.

13 posted on 12/17/2011 8:44:44 AM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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>> Ronald ReaganSpeaks Out Against Socialized Medicine.
It is unconscionable to not know where this leads.>>

What an idiotic post by you. I know full well what Reagan said about socialized medicine and I know full well that Reagan had great respect for both Heritage Foundation and for Newt.

That you are such a little microbial anal thinker that comments about individual responsibility and mandates (which are totally different than Obama’ mandates) means that Newt is in favor of socialized medicine means that you and I can never discuss anything because we are on different planes.

Man, snarkiness laced with ignorance and false choices and poor extraplations just bores the heck out of me.


14 posted on 12/17/2011 8:57:31 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You are an expert at false premise and snark, your posts are filled with them.

The only person this forum ever helped elect, was Obama.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 2:39:58 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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