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Christopher Hitchens Is Dead. Damnit.
American Thinker ^ | 12/16/2011 | James G. Wiles

Posted on 12/16/2011 7:32:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind

How can a conservative commentator and an orthodox Catholic like me possibly admire Christopher Hitchens?

He hated the Pope, smeared Mother Teresa viciously. He even published a book four years ago defending his militant atheism called God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything. Then Christopher Hitchens debated around the world on that very topic. Then he co-wrote and edited a book about the debates.

In between those two books, there was a third one, about the war in Iraq and his support of it - which had caused him to break with many of the friends of his youth. All in all, Christopher Hitchens wrote 17 books, including his collected essays, Arguably, which was re-issued this year. He was 61.

I believe Hitchens' good deeds -- and if Hitchens was right, the only thing left of him now are his deeds -- more than compensated for his militant atheism and his occasional bad manners. Usually he was bitingly funny, even coruscating. Sometimes he was a good deal more than that.

Perhaps the best defense might be to say with Walt Whitman in Leaves of Grass:

Do I contradict myself?

Very well then, I contradict myself.

(I am large, I contain multitudes.)

First, there was the man's work ethic, already mentioned above. In fact, the book total doesn't do full justice to Christopher Hitchens' output. He was, for many years, a working journalist too. And a weekly columnist. After his move to the United States in 1981 -- and especially after the emergence of cable -- Hitchens also became a TV regular.

Then there's the quality of his stuff.

Christopher Hitchens was, in the best sense, a public intellectual -- but he was also un homme engage. Hitchens took part in the public controversies of his time.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: atheists; christopherhitchens; hitchens; imaginaryfriend; tribute

1 posted on 12/16/2011 7:32:58 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

re: “Christopher Hitchens Is Dead.”

I wonder if the his post-death experience is all he hoped it would be or wouldn’t be?


2 posted on 12/16/2011 7:37:11 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, Hitchens is not an atheist anymore.


3 posted on 12/16/2011 7:38:25 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: SeekAndFind

God Bless you, Chris - whether you like it or not!


4 posted on 12/16/2011 7:40:16 AM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: SeekAndFind
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)

I am Legion, for we are many.......................

5 posted on 12/16/2011 7:41:56 AM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: kosciusko51

This man should not be celebrated in the least. He dedicated his life to destroying the faith and souls of good people for simply believing something he didn’t.

I don’t respect him at all and I’m glad he can no longer corrupt people. People believe in varying degrees of faith and they are very much entitled to believe what they want. These so-called militant atheists are simply thought police of the worst kind, attempting to force others to believe their ideas or face ridicule and disgrace. Christians on the other hand in this day never force their beliefs on others.


6 posted on 12/16/2011 7:43:36 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: bigdirty

I never feel glad that a misguided soul has died without the comfort of Our Lord. Unless he had a deathbed conversion, which I pray he did. If he didn’t, I don’t feel one bit of satisfaction that he has to live eternity in hell.


7 posted on 12/16/2011 7:48:07 AM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: SeekAndFind
I believe Hitchens' good deeds.....more than compensated for his militant atheism and his occasional bad manners

Unfortunately, according to the bible, they didn't. He could have done as many good deeds as Mother Theresa and they still wouldn't have, without faith.

8 posted on 12/16/2011 7:49:46 AM PST by apillar
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To: bigdirty

I am not celebrating the man in the least. In fact, I have pointed out that he now cannot believe that there is no God.


9 posted on 12/16/2011 7:49:55 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: SeekAndFind
It always saddens me when great thinkers or artists die without being followers of Jesus Christ.
The intellect of Ben Franklin and the artistry of Jimi Hendrix gone for eternity.
10 posted on 12/16/2011 7:52:04 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: JaguarXKE

RE: God Bless you, Chris - whether you like it or not!

Well, if he doesn’t like it, how can he obtain blessing?

‘There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, “Thy will be done,” and those to whom God says, in the end, “Thy will be done.” All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell ‘ (C.S. Lewis)


11 posted on 12/16/2011 7:56:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Who?


12 posted on 12/16/2011 8:02:49 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: SeekAndFind

RIP Hitch...though I may not have always agreed with you, you were a man of principle. My prayers go to you in belief that you have now discovered where you were wrong.


13 posted on 12/16/2011 8:07:27 AM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: murron
I never feel glad that a misguided soul has died without the comfort of Our Lord. Unless he had a deathbed conversion, which I pray he did. If he didn’t, I don’t feel one bit of satisfaction that he has to live eternity in hell.

I agree - well said.

14 posted on 12/16/2011 8:08:56 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (A half-truth masquerading as the whole truth becomes a complete untruth. (J.I. Packer)
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To: bigdirty
Christians on the other hand in this day never force their beliefs on others.


15 posted on 12/16/2011 8:24:04 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

That was the church, not the Christians.


16 posted on 12/16/2011 8:26:18 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: murron

Well said and I totally agree!!! If he didn’t have a death bed conversion I feel truly sad for him. I wouldn’t wish hell on anyone.


17 posted on 12/16/2011 8:41:33 AM PST by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity; murron
I don’t feel one bit of satisfaction that he has to live eternity in hell.

Then you are more loving and forgiving than is your God.

18 posted on 12/16/2011 8:42:25 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Surprised this hasn’t shown up:

“God is dead.” - Hitchens

“Hitchens is dead.” - God


19 posted on 12/16/2011 8:57:42 AM PST by Oatka (This is the USA, assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And now he knows the Truth


20 posted on 12/16/2011 8:58:58 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Notary Sojac
Then you are more loving and forgiving than is your God.

I refuse to believe in a God who throws His creations (or those that have arisen from His creation; same thing) into a vast milieu where forces can militate against them coming to a profession of some kind of belief system without which they get discarded like so much trash into an eternity of suffering without hope of surcease. That's one of the reasons I'm not a Christian, although it isn't the only reason. Supposing there is some kind of materialistic paradise where good people "go" to be rewarded (highly unlikely, in my opinion), I would fully expect to share it with guys like Hitler, Stalin and even Ted Kennedy.

21 posted on 12/16/2011 8:58:58 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I will mourn anyone who understood the threat of Islamo-Fascism, atheist or not.


22 posted on 12/16/2011 9:00:20 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Alter Kaker

Most of the people burned at the stake were in fact Christians. They were victims of a corrupt established church which savored its monopoly status and was in bed with a corrupt secular state.


23 posted on 12/16/2011 9:04:11 AM PST by hellbender
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To: AppyPappy
That was the church, not the Christians.

Yup. Just like Islam is a religion of peace and the suicide bombers are just really confused folks that have nothing to do with Islam.... I mean I'm sure some people buy that nonsense, but most people with a lick of common sense think that Catholic Christians burnt Protestants (and Muslims, Jews, etc.) and Protestant Christians burnt Catholics and other Protestants. You have to be pretty out of touch with reality if you honestly believe that forced conversions haven't been conducted by Christians of all stripes. Look at black Americans today -- do you really, honestly think their slave ancestors came to the US as AME baptists? Of course not. Christians have practiced forced conversions on each other and on non-Christians for 2000 years and that practice continues in some places til present day.

24 posted on 12/16/2011 9:05:44 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker; AppyPappy
Also, "in this day" no "church" does that either.
25 posted on 12/16/2011 9:10:33 AM PST by ExGeeEye (It will take a revolution to reinstate the constitution. (HT FtP))
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To: hellbender

I’d like to think that Hitchens’ beef was more with man-made Religion, than with God.


26 posted on 12/16/2011 9:14:02 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Well he really nailed Clinton in his book “No One Left To Lie To”


27 posted on 12/16/2011 9:20:33 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Alter Kaker

Yeah there’s not a day that goes by when you don’t hear of the Lutherans torching an atheist or the Presbyterians killing Quakers.

There was one belief that butchered people recently. That was state-sponsored atheism in the Soviet Union.


28 posted on 12/16/2011 9:20:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Nifster
Interesting that the last word he wrote was "gaffe."

He now knows Truth, and I hope God is merciful on his soul for his recognition at how wrong he was all these years.

29 posted on 12/16/2011 9:29:03 AM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I think the point is that MAN fell from grace by choice and through willful action, God did not ‘throw’ man into anything.

God responded by sacrificing HIS SON to create a reconciliation and a path of salvation for man.

The question is whether we will seek God to escape from the consequences of our own misdeeds.


30 posted on 12/16/2011 9:35:53 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (No good deed...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
I think the point is that MAN fell from grace by choice and through willful action, God did not ‘throw’ man into anything.

Man didn't "fall" from anything. He's always been what he is.

31 posted on 12/16/2011 9:54:58 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And in the end, we really don’t know for certain which camp Chris was in.


32 posted on 12/16/2011 10:16:12 AM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: Notary Sojac
Then you are more loving and forgiving than is your God.

From my reading of the Bible, it is clear to me that God is loving and despairs of even a single person going to their death with their sins unatoned for.

As far as being 'more forgiving' than God is, it isn't up to me to 'forgive' the late Mr. Hitchens. His sins, like all of ours, are committed ultimately against God.

When any of us act like God either doesn't matter or doesn't exist in our lives, he's more than ready to let us go on in that same mind-set for eternity.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone - no matter how much we think that, based on how they've lived their life, deserved it.

33 posted on 12/16/2011 10:21:23 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (A half-truth masquerading as the whole truth becomes a complete untruth. (J.I. Packer)
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To: SeekAndFind
Christopher Hitchens Is Dead. Damnit.

One of the few columnists and writers out there that I'd go out of my way to find and read. Very intelligent, very smart and always worth reading, even if you didn't agree with him (and I often didn't).
34 posted on 12/16/2011 10:25:32 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Alter Kaker
Christians have practiced forced conversions on each other and on non-Christians for 2000 years and that practice continues in some places til present day.

What makes someone a Christian? Do you know?

35 posted on 12/16/2011 10:48:44 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
So are you saying that even though God has condemned Hitchens eternally to "the lake of fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels", you would not??

If that's what you're saying, then I commend you. I wouldn't send him there either.

36 posted on 12/16/2011 10:55:47 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Notary Sojac

Look up ‘sick’ in the dictionary. I saw a face there.


37 posted on 12/16/2011 11:14:48 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I am praying that God will speak to your heart. The Bible says that He is not willing that any should perish. We have a free will to choose God or not.

Please read the book of John

Maria


38 posted on 12/16/2011 12:56:58 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Alter Kaker

re: “Of course not. Christians have practiced forced conversions on each other and on non-Christians for 2000 years and that practice continues in some places til present day.”

You are, unfortunately, correct that at times, some Christian groups killed, tortured, brutalized people trying to “punish” them on God’s behalf, or force them to become “Christians”. I don’t know of such a thing being practiced in the past few hundred years, but, regardless, it should never have happened in the first place.

However, there is one difference between such crimes on the part of Christians as opposed to other groups who continue to practice such things. And, that is, the Christians who did such things, did so in direct opposition to the Scriptures they claimed to believe and follow. Search the New Testament and find such commands for forced conversions. No where does Jesus or any of the Apostles ever command “forced conversions”? It isn’t there.

This isn’t true of other religions’ scriptures.

This means that those people who did such things broke God’s law and violated the teachings of God Incarnate - Jesus Himself - who said, “Love your enemies - do good to those who persecute you”. They will be judged by God for their actions - plus the fact that these acts they committed they did in God’s Name thus bringing shame on His holy and righteous character making it difficult for others to believe in Him. This is a gross sin against God and man.

Jesus once said that evil acts will happen, but God’s judgment will be especially harsh on those through whom these evil offenses come. He also said that anyone who causes one of His “little ones” to stumble (turn away from God), it would be better for them to have a millstone hung about their neck and tossed into the sea. He’s not just talking about small children - He was talking about any who were caused to turned away from God because of the acts of some individual - that individual will be held accountable for that.


39 posted on 12/16/2011 1:16:24 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: Notary Sojac

Our God? I take it you do not believe in God.


40 posted on 12/16/2011 2:34:32 PM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Notary Sojac

“The amazing thing isn’t that there’s only one way to salvation. the amazing thing is that God made a way at all.”—James MacDonald


41 posted on 12/16/2011 8:52:01 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

So, you believe the God of the Bible judges people with less insight into their personal beliefs than the DMV?


42 posted on 12/16/2011 8:55:05 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I said a prayer for Hitch just now. Here was an atheist who, facing death, had the grace to thank those praying for him even if he didn't believe in it himself.

Almighty God, spare your idiot son. Because if you'll spare him, maybe you'll find a reason to spare me. Amen.

43 posted on 12/16/2011 9:01:21 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Alter Kaker

Blah, blah, blah...500 years ago this, 500 years ago that...this atheist meme that crusades and witch burnings matter more than people getting killed right now for atheism in places like China or tens of milliosn getting killed for it last century, the meme where any reasonable person can see the vast difference between Pol Pot and Stephen Hawking but there’s no real difference between Augustine and Fred Phelps or C. S. Lewis and Osama bin Laden is just as much a bunch of gapped-tooth bigotry as any Westboro Baptist Church diatribe. Get over yourselves.


44 posted on 12/16/2011 9:02:16 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Man didn't "fall" from anything. He's always been what he is.

Says who? Even if religion is all bunk, you don't know that. Interesting how people of science and reason are as certain about things that happened 200,000 years before their birth as any Southern Baptist preacher is about the Garden of Eden.

45 posted on 12/16/2011 9:06:16 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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To: SeekAndFind

46 posted on 12/16/2011 9:16:31 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: murron

You would be correct in that.


47 posted on 12/17/2011 5:20:58 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
(Calvin and Knox)...taught the doctrine that God had a right to damn us because he made us. That is just the reason that he has not a right to damn us.

There is some dust. Unconscious dust! What right has God to change that unconscious dust into a human being, when he knows that human being will sin; when he knows that human being will suffer eternal agony? Why not leave him in the unconscious dust? What right has an infinite God to add to the sum of human agony?

Suppose I knew that I could change that piece of furniture into a living, sentient human being, and I knew that that being would suffer untold agony forever. If I did it, I would be a fiend.

- Robert G. Ingersoll

48 posted on 12/17/2011 5:43:25 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Liberalism: Ideas so good, they have to be mandatory!!)
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