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The FBI Reports Military Gang Members Are Funneling Heavy Weapons To The Streets
Business Insider ^ | 12/16/11 | Robert Johnson

Posted on 12/16/2011 10:07:00 AM PST by Nachum

The FBI released its gang assessment in October saying that of the 1.4 million gang members in the U.S., many are in the American military. The High Desert Daily Press, located near Fort Irwin, Ca. follows the FBI report up with an investigation of its own, finding gangs are getting ahold of high powered military weapons and munitions far more often than previously thought (via Military.com). Their story lists several cases where munitions may have been funneled by military gang members and civilian employees at military bases to California street gangs.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; fbi; gang; military; militarygangmembers; militarygangs; reports

1 posted on 12/16/2011 10:07:07 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I don’t believe nor trust the FBI anymore.

From an honorable organization, they have become an organ of corrutpion for the present administration.

I do not believe this article.


2 posted on 12/16/2011 10:10:49 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: Nachum

The need to ban guns in the military.


3 posted on 12/16/2011 10:11:49 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: TFMcGuire

I have a nephew in the army. He confirmed the problem with gangs inside our military. He has also fought with fellow soldiers over the counting of small arms. Many just want to say they did it and put the same numbers in as were reported previously.


4 posted on 12/16/2011 10:14:13 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: MestaMachine; Joe Brower

FYI ping

Do I smell the odor of mendacity?


5 posted on 12/16/2011 10:14:21 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Nachum

Now why don’t I believe this?
Because it follows the same form as the “Mexican cartels are getting guns funneled to them via mom and pop firearms shops in America”?

I hate top bust their bubble, but the ATF, teh FBI themselves, and the DOJ are the ones responsible for this.


6 posted on 12/16/2011 10:14:43 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Nachum
Their story lists several cases where munitions may have been funneled by military gang members and civilian employees at military bases to California street gangs.

I'm sure Operations Fast & Furious, nor Castaway would have anything to do with this.

Right, Mr. Holder?

5.56mm

7 posted on 12/16/2011 10:15:01 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: TFMcGuire
I don’t believe nor trust the FBI anymore.

Nor do I.

8 posted on 12/16/2011 10:15:16 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Safer bullets.


9 posted on 12/16/2011 10:16:08 AM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: Nachum

With perhaps a million servicemen in uniform there are going to be some bad apples. But the article fails to lend any sort of perspective. This could have been gained by contacting the various service intelligence public relations people. They would quickly put this into context and I’ll bet that context would have made this article unsalable.


10 posted on 12/16/2011 10:19:46 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Nachum

Would not put it past the FBI to blame their illegal gun running and money laundering operation on the military personnel or any other innocent citizen. It is safe to assume that at least some of the grenades, guns and ammo they ran to the Cartels, ended up in our cities with drug dealing gangs.

However, we do know from other reports that the DOD has stupidly been recruiting gang members into the military. The US military training will come in handy when the Mexican cartels launch their hot war against the US establishment.


11 posted on 12/16/2011 10:20:20 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Nachum

The level of human stupidity amazes me.

Hey, GI gang-member!
WTF has the gang ever done for you? Who is feeding your stupid butt? Who is training your stupid butt? Who is paying you, providing insurance, education and a future for you? When you leave the service, you will potentially have training, education and experience that other american’s have given you. You will have a future that the military has made possible.

And yet, these vermin, these degenerates want the approval of some ‘gang’ that can’t offer them anything more than a prision sentence and a shortened life; and what life they do have will be marked by preying on the weak and helpless.

I’m utterly amazed .... no concept of what ‘honor’ is, no idea of what ‘loyalty’ means, and as ungrateful as a Frenchman.


12 posted on 12/16/2011 10:22:15 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Ah!

I still do not trust the FBI any longer.


13 posted on 12/16/2011 10:27:35 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: Nachum
of the 1.4 million gang members in the U.S., many are in the American military
Many? WTH does that mean? This isn't new either.
In the '60s and early 70s, the military was full of scumbags stealing weapons and selling/giving them to the Black Panthers, Weather Underground, etc.
14 posted on 12/16/2011 10:31:46 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Nachum

Obama and his Fast & Furious funneled heavy weapons to our streets and got Americans killed!


15 posted on 12/16/2011 10:32:03 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Nachum

This has been going on for a long time and authorities have been well aware of it. The gangs have long bragged that they have members join the military solely for the purpose of being trained in wepons and to steal military wepons for use back home. I remember reading about it back in the 90s.


16 posted on 12/16/2011 10:35:52 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Nachum

How about islamist’s in the military? Seems I’ve heard something about this too...


17 posted on 12/16/2011 10:37:05 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: M Kehoe
This all appears to be an incredibly convenient way to arm Obama's civilian national security force which he campaigned for with the following quote:
"we cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
Military training? check Equally equipped to military? check All too convenient with circumstances all too similar to "Fast and Furious".
18 posted on 12/16/2011 10:41:10 AM PST by wtd
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To: Nachum

Another harbinger of the coming tribulation period. So glad i won’t be here.


19 posted on 12/16/2011 10:46:28 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Nachum

The military has always had at least some bad apples, as any organization that size is bound to. And I think part of the problem is that the politically correct leaders, inside and outside the Pentagon, push affirmative action on the Recruiting Offices. They have specific orders to admit more blacks, more Hispanics, and as many Muslims as possible. Plus the woman question.

How big the problem is, I have no idea. I certainly agree that you cannot trust the FBI or the ATF on something like this. Not to speak of the politicians.


20 posted on 12/16/2011 10:50:39 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: TFMcGuire

The story smells.Anything out of our government and most media is not to be believed.Swamp needs to be drained right;look to alternative media sources.


21 posted on 12/16/2011 10:58:56 AM PST by shanover (These are the times that try men's souls....tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. Paine)
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To: M Kehoe
This all appears to be an incredibly convenient way to arm Obama's civilian national security force which he campaigned for with the following quote:
"we cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."
Military training? check Equally equipped to military? check All too convenient with circumstances all too similar to "Fast and Furious".
22 posted on 12/16/2011 11:00:01 AM PST by wtd
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To: Nachum

Gee!I wonder where these gangs are getting their weapons,The FBI,ATF.With the approval of the Department of Injustice.


23 posted on 12/16/2011 11:27:11 AM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Nachum

Sorry, the FBI has lost all credibility after F&F. I’d like this to be investigated by a neutral third party to confirm before I believe anything from any agency associated with the DOJ.


24 posted on 12/16/2011 11:30:14 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Nachum

“funneled by military gang members and civilian employees at military bases to California street gangs”

Knowing what we do about the dominant demographic composition of “California street gangs”, what is the article (and the FBI) refusing to report about those in and out of the military that may be part of this? You get only one guess.


25 posted on 12/16/2011 11:42:56 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SaraJohnson

That training will only be marginally useful when you consider what they are up against, not only our own military, but tens of millions of honorable soldiers who are now civilians and are quite capable of handling that threat.


26 posted on 12/16/2011 12:20:38 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
How about islamist’s in the military? Seems I’ve heard something about this too...

The terrorist that killed the soldiers at Ft Hood was one. There used to be one in one local Austin units, but he got out. I've heard some Mexican Mafia people are members of the military as well.

27 posted on 12/16/2011 12:36:49 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Nachum

Ya, well, call me when the gangbangers start doing drive-bys with a 60mm mortar, Ma Duce or a LAW.

Douns like some ‘agency’ (Famous But Incompetent) wants a bigger budget....


28 posted on 12/16/2011 8:35:31 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Nachum

Hey FBI
Here is an idea -
Rather than spreading unsubstantiated rumours about our military -

WHY NOT INVESTIGATE THE KNOWN ILLEGAL GUNS SUPPLIED BY OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

What a bunch of weasels.


29 posted on 12/16/2011 9:05:16 PM PST by Eldon Tyrell
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