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British Paper: Romney Lived In A ‘Mansion’ During French ‘Hardship’ Period
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Posted on 12/16/2011 11:45:48 AM PST by tsowellfan

Mitt Romney has been trying to relate to voters by letting them know he’s more than a rich businessman who makes $10,000 bets. Over the past week, Romney has been discussing his time as a missionary for the Church of Latter-day Saints in France in the late 1960s. He describes living an austere life on a limited budget, rooming in a series of apartments without proper toilets or luxury items like refrigerators. “I lived in a way that people of lower middle income in France lived,” Romney said. But Romney may have stretched the truth a bit.

Britain’s Daily Telegraph decided to check into Romney’s account of his time and France. They found that, for about 8 months out of his 30-month stay in France, Romney lived in a mansion in Paris, living a comfortable, upper-class lifestyle. The building, someone familiar with it said, could be described as a “palace”:

It featured stained glass windows, chandeliers, and an extensive art collection. It was staffed by two servants - a Spanish chef and a houseboy…The building, on Rue de Lota, was bought by the Mormons in 1952, having been seized by the Nazis during the Second World War. The Church sold it again in the 1970s, and it was until recently the embassy of the United Arab Emirates. It is currently worth as much as $12 million.

Romney wasn’t thinking about his housing in Paris when he told supporters, “I don’t recall any of them having a refrigerator. We shopped before every meal.” The head of the mission at the time, Duane Anderson, told the Telegraph that the house not only had refrigeration, but a chef who cooked for Romney and the other missionaries five days a week. Romney also made comments that most of the places he lived didn’t have a bathtub or shower, but the Telegraph discovered that this was at least unlikely. If that were the case, it would be an outlier, one Mormon who met Romney in Bordeaux told the paper.

From food to plumbing, the way Romney described living to supporters this week doesn’t square with the Telegraph’s account of how he spent 8 months in Paris. Mr. Anderson claimed some campaign aides had asked him not to talk to the press about Romney’s time there.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gopestablishment; romneybachmann2011; zots4romneybots

1 posted on 12/16/2011 11:45:53 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

I’m no Romney fan, but he might have been living in poorer digs for the other 22 months. Not only that, but he got an upset stomach from the seasoning the chef used!


2 posted on 12/16/2011 11:48:20 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: tsowellfan

Wonder if he didn’t know the 10000$ remark was really stupid until someone reminded him the people he was trying to get to vote for him mostly didn’t have 10k in net assets to bet with.


3 posted on 12/16/2011 11:49:19 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: tsowellfan

I’ll bash Romney because there is no position that is near and dear to a ‘Conservative’, that he hasn’t had both a “Pro” and a “Con” viewpoint on. Abortion, gun control, illegal aliens - I’m truly not sure how he feels about cannibalism.

But, I’ll not bash him because he’s been successful.


4 posted on 12/16/2011 11:49:40 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Mayonnaise will do that.


5 posted on 12/16/2011 11:50:13 AM PST by nesnah
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To: tsowellfan
That lying SOB !

He's no better than Reid !

...And don't forget, this is what he dodged the draft to do !

6 posted on 12/16/2011 11:50:17 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: tsowellfan

So why is it we have to get this from the British press, instead of our own press?


7 posted on 12/16/2011 11:50:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: tsowellfan

Romney is detached. Detached from reality, detached from regular people.


8 posted on 12/16/2011 11:50:45 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: tsowellfan

Here’s a hint, Mitt. Reminding me that you were a mormon missionary is not going to endear you to me.


9 posted on 12/16/2011 11:51:36 AM PST by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: Hodar

Successful at what? Living off of Daddy?


10 posted on 12/16/2011 11:52:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: tsowellfan

Not for nothing but when you are living in France with all those cafes and restaurants nearby - what the hell do you need a refrigerator in your house for? Even if you don’t eat out every day, most Europeans have no need for a refrigerator at home - they have a culture where they shop daily for fresh ingredients to prepare their meals for that day.


11 posted on 12/16/2011 11:55:09 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 48 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Do we really want a guy who spent time spreading a false religion in other countries as our president?


12 posted on 12/16/2011 11:56:00 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Hodar
Successful, fine.

Born rich, fine.

Born rich, then further successful, fine.

Born rich, successful, then stealing the nobility of the working poor who can't seem to get a break, by lying during election time, NOT OKAY.

13 posted on 12/16/2011 11:56:06 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: Hodar
But, I’ll not bash him because he’s been successful

Me neither but "success" is not the issue. It's "honesty" with the voters. What else will he be dishonest with?

Will he (as many think)pander the liberal votes after he's won the GOP nomination?

If he flip flops on abortion, liberal judges he's nominated and gay marriage, then is dishonest about his toiletless hardships in France... who's to say he cannot flip-flop for the liberal vote as our nominee?

14 posted on 12/16/2011 11:58:06 AM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: DannyTN
Allow me please, this small correction...

"Do we really want a guy who DODGED THE DRAFT to spend time spreading a false religion in other countries as our president?"

15 posted on 12/16/2011 12:00:47 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: DannyTN
Allow me please, this small correction...

"Do we really want a guy who DODGED THE DRAFT to spend time spreading a false religion in other countries as our president?"

16 posted on 12/16/2011 12:01:07 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: dfwgator
So why is it we have to get this from the British press, instead of our own press?

Or Michelle Bachmann. She seems to have seen checks cashed by Newt but totally missed Romney's dishonesty. I think she knows she will be on the ticket with Mitt. He will pander to the democrats (something he's a pro at) and Bachmann will round up the tea party voters.

17 posted on 12/16/2011 12:04:00 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: tsowellfan

At least part of his time in France might have been expensive, but certainly wasn’t comfy. He was pronounced dead by a French cop after an auto accident. The person sitting next to him stayed dead, he recovered but IIRC it took a couple months. He was driving, but wasn’t at fault - another car came around a blind curve head on in his lane.


18 posted on 12/16/2011 12:04:16 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: tsowellfan
Mitt Romney did his missionary work in France?? So, why is this article important?? To me it isn't...I'm no Romney supporter, but if he is the GOP Candidate I'll vote for him.

Voting #rd party is a vote for the Marxist Jimah Cahtah II (aka 0). (I think I insulted Jimmy Carter when I compare O's administration with his).

19 posted on 12/16/2011 12:05:41 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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To: ExCTCitizen
but if he is the GOP Candidate I'll vote for him.

The magic word is "IF" which is why we have a primary. He's not the GOP Candidate yet. There are 4 front-runners. So, we need not hand it to the RINO so quickly.

20 posted on 12/16/2011 12:09:13 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: ExCTCitizen

After he made a $10000 bet on a whim a few weeks ago, and realized that he had distanced himself from poor working voters, he claimed he knew abotu being poor because he lived in poverty on his mission. Turns out he was in a paris mansion with servants.


21 posted on 12/16/2011 12:09:31 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

“He (Romney) was pronounced dead by a French cop after an auto accident.”

So he’s one of the `undead,’ a Zombie. I suspected as much/


22 posted on 12/16/2011 12:14:27 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: WoofDog123

Just for the record...Romney’s $10K betting comment is a common southeast Michigan comment. Everyone always says “I bet you 10,000 bucks” whenever they want to project that they know what they are talking about. I thought it was cute and I say it all the time and have done so since I was a kid. Ask any Michigander. So, let’s quit trying to make it into something it isn’t.


23 posted on 12/16/2011 12:26:15 PM PST by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: tumblindice
So he’s one of the `undead,’ a Zombie. I suspected as much/


24 posted on 12/16/2011 12:29:05 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: crymeariver

His bet was never an issue wth me, it was just more of the same mormon-style lying he used to cover it up.


25 posted on 12/16/2011 12:31:09 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: WoofDog123; All
I'm no Romney supporter, but I think to attack him for the 10 thou bet was silly.
He didn't mean it literally. It was a figure of speech..like ‘I'll betcha a thousand dollars..’
26 posted on 12/16/2011 12:39:17 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I agree. I’m not big on Romney but I don’t think the guy is a liar. I think he’s a pretty decent guy who just is not the one for this time in history.


27 posted on 12/16/2011 12:42:24 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tsowellfan

I hate to come to the defense of Mitt Romney, but...

It looks like the Mormon church had purchased the building and turned it into a boarding house for missionaries in the area.

If you have multiple missionaries living in the building, it seems logical you would hire a cook and a maid (to do things like wash clothing and clean) to free up the missionaries to spend more time on the reason they were there to begin with—go and proseletize.

There are plenty of reasons (and then some) to vote against Mitt Romney. I’m just not seeing this as one of them.


28 posted on 12/16/2011 12:42:55 PM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: crymeariver

Really? Makes sense. However, the usual statement around here is “I will bet you a million bucks.” 10,000, or $1,000 is too much like a “real” bet.


29 posted on 12/16/2011 12:43:43 PM PST by NathanR
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To: tsowellfan

Somehow this reminds me of a funny Mad Magazine cartoon, where two KGB agents are chatting. “He’s a spy, alright,” says the one. “He claims he got the infection from a toilet seat in Tashkent. Little does he know ... they haven’t got toilet seats in Tashkent!”


30 posted on 12/16/2011 12:47:06 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: tumblindice

OMG, isn’t one of the descriptions of the anti-Christ is he’ll seem dead then come back to life? Was it a head injury? It think that’s what it was supposed to be.

OMG, could Mitt really be the anti-Christ?

I think the Bible describes the anti-Christ as one of the most charismatic men ever.

OMG, could Mitt...never mind. Scratch Mitt off the list due to the charsimatic qualifaction.


31 posted on 12/16/2011 12:49:00 PM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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To: Brookhaven
There are plenty of reasons (and then some) to vote against Mitt Romney. I’m just not seeing this as one of them.

I agree with you; such things are really petty. It's like knocking a guy's military service because he was able to get into the artillery.

32 posted on 12/16/2011 12:55:25 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Why do I dislike Mitt Romney? Because - and this is important - he campaigns more on negative attacks on his opponents, than showing me how and why he is conservative. Romney is the perfect 'Gumby' candidate. He will be whatever you want. Just ask him. And that is a dangerous characteristic in these dangerous times.

Ditto his third cousin, Jon Huntsman. Except Hunstman is just a dweeb.

33 posted on 12/16/2011 1:03:47 PM PST by CT
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To: DannyTN
Do we really want a guy who spent time spreading a false religion in other countries as our president?

only to the extent that we followed him spreading the truth.....be very careful of condemning someone elses faith commitment unless your own equals or surpasses his. I am a Catholic and I have never gone on a mission to another country to extol the virtues of Catholicism. I have nowhere the zeal that it takes to do so.

34 posted on 12/16/2011 4:00:06 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: tsowellfan
If he flip flops on abortion

he didn't, don't you listen??? he stated that he would not go against the stated policy of Mass. when he became governor. However, when he was faced with making a pro-abortion decision as governor, HE CHANGED HIS MIND, and found out within himself, that he could only decide in a pro-life manner. That means he came our way.....get it now???

35 posted on 12/16/2011 4:06:31 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: tumblindice
So he’s one of the `undead,’ a Zombie. I suspected as much/

Face palm! I should have realized it. Of all folks I should be able to recognize such. After all the grave dancing star of Return of the Living Dead is my HS classmate (true!)

36 posted on 12/16/2011 7:42:29 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: terycarl

It’s not his commitment I condemn, it’s his faith. Misplaced zeal is worse than no zeal at all.

Saul, before he became the Apostle Paul, had plenty of zeal for killing Christians in the name of the Lord. But it was wrong headed.


37 posted on 12/16/2011 7:55:31 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: terycarl

It’s not his commitment I condemn, it’s his faith. Misplaced zeal is worse than no zeal at all.

Saul, before he became the Apostle Paul, had plenty of zeal for killing Christians in the name of the Lord. But it was wrong headed.


38 posted on 12/16/2011 7:55:45 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
It’s not his commitment I condemn, it’s his faith. Misplaced zeal is worse than no zeal at all

you are, of course, a Roman Catholic.....if not, how do you justify following men like Luther, Calvin, Wesley, etc, instead of Christ???...you follow them, he follows Smith...wrong is wrong, you can't be a little bit wrong.

39 posted on 12/16/2011 8:12:47 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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