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Gingrich’s Virtues
NRO ^ | Dec 17, 2012 | By Andrew C. McCarthy, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute

Posted on 12/17/2011 2:14:27 AM PST by Jim Robinson

I respectfully dissent from National Review’s Wednesday-evening editorial, which derided Newt Gingrich as not merely flawed but unfit for consideration as the GOP presidential nominee. The Editors further gave the back of the hand to the bids of two other prominent conservatives, Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann — a judgment that is simply inexplicable in light of the frivolousness of its reasoning and of the Editors’ embrace of Jon Huntsman, a moderate former Obama-administration official, as a serious contender.

The editorial surprised me, as it did many readers. I am now advised that the timing was driven by the editorial’s inclusion in the last edition of the magazine to be published this year, which went to press on Wednesday. The Editors believe, unwisely in my view, that before the first caucuses and primaries begin in early January, it is important to make known their insights — not merely views about the relative merits of the candidates but conclusions that some candidates are no longer worthy of having their merits considered. Like many other voters, I haven’t settled on a candidate. What I want at this very early stage is information about the candidates so I can consider them, not a presumptuous and premature pronouncement that good conservatives do not even rate consideration.

Regarding former Speaker Gingrich, I have no objection to the cataloguing of any candidate’s failings, and Newt has certainly made his share of mistakes. But there ought to be balance — balance between a candidate’s failings and his strengths, balance between the treatment of that candidate and of his rivals. The editorial fails on both scores.

Gingrich’s virtues are shortchanged—his great accomplishment in balancing the federal budget is not even mentioned, an odd omission in an election that is primarily about astronomical spending. His downsides are exaggerated...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: balancethebudget; conservatism; elections; gingrich; newt; teapartyrebellion
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1 posted on 12/17/2011 2:14:30 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Let's get this show on the road!!

yitbos

2 posted on 12/17/2011 2:18:45 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Jim Robinson

Pretty good assessment.. for what do we “really” know of any of the candidates..
This election is and should not be a popularity game..
The best man/person for the job may not be “NICE”...
Being “nice” may even be a dis-qualifier..

Eddie Haskel(huntsman) is a joke.. and Ron Paul IS NOT crazy..


3 posted on 12/17/2011 2:27:45 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Jim Robinson

LOL.. oh man what the hell is going on with my country when even the Republican based media does what they are doing to a guy who has done more for the Conservative cause than any living human being in the last 40 years?..


4 posted on 12/17/2011 2:28:20 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: hosepipe

No, he’s not. Just has a few bats in the attic.


5 posted on 12/17/2011 2:29:27 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

” Under a Republican president, they [the Republican Congress] added over $3 trillion to the federal deficit, shunned conservative policy in favor of Beltway influence-peddling, and so damaged the GOP brand that we...lost the majority Gingrich had worked years to forge,..How much should I really care that Newt’s fabulous colleagues think his reemergence would be a disaster for Republicans? Lest these characters forget,...2010 was not a merit promotion; they were the only alternative in town.”

Go Newt! I haven’t seen another candidate with as much capacity for leadership as he.


6 posted on 12/17/2011 2:52:19 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Jim Robinson

McCarthy really sticks it to NRO.

I am thankful that in this day the truth can still come out.


7 posted on 12/17/2011 3:21:29 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (http://tinyurl.com/boj2xhv)
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To: Jim Robinson
For those who missed last night's O'Reilly, I have officially removed Coulter from my radar screen and now consider her (sadly) a full-fledged member of the inside-the-beltway, pseudo-intellectual, Elitist, Establishment, RINO's, much the save as Tokyo Rove, Krauthammer, Noonan, et al.

She was reallllly snarky and attacked Newt as much as I've ever seen her attack Dear Leader.

I realize that since her 1st luv, Tubby Christie would not run, she now has gravitated (obviously, though she did not come right out and say it) towards Mitten, but as with all Mitt (Paul) supporters, they simply can not support their candidate by advancing their virtues and policies, they ALL resort to trying to destroy the other leaders, the same as they did with Cain and before him, Perry and Bachman.

It is disgraceful and a tactic one usually expects from the Demo-Rats.

8 posted on 12/17/2011 3:24:25 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Jim Robinson

bfl


9 posted on 12/17/2011 3:56:18 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Gingrich quoting George Washington: 'Victory or Death')
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To: Jim Robinson

On FR, we often look at a candidate’s RECORD, not their words, as an indicator of their core values.

As an example, Romney is unacceptable based on his RECORD, not his words. In fact, we do not trust is words today.

So, why is it that we excoriate Gingrich for his words while ignoring his clear, conservative record?


10 posted on 12/17/2011 4:00:36 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Jim Robinson

Andrew McCarthy in this piece - and Mark Levin last night on his show - make eloquent and impassioned indictments of those engaged in the anti-Newt hysteria. What is amazing is that neither McCarthy nor Levin support Newt at this point - but even they are off put and ashamed of the behavior of the irrational “haters” of the Speaker.

It is my observation that the supporters of Newt - and certain other “defenders” like McCarthy and Levin and Rush - are far more realistic and measured in their plus/minus assessments of him. I think this more rational approach would be something I would suggest to many around FR as well.

As McCarthy mentions, all of us conservatives are beneficiaries of some great things Newt did in the 80s and 90s. We should at least debate the merits of the man in that context, regardless of where one ends up in that debate.


11 posted on 12/17/2011 4:07:06 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Jim Robinson

NR = Vichy Republicans


12 posted on 12/17/2011 4:08:55 AM PST by y6162
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

To show you how bad Coulter is and how low she has fallen, when she was in full Cristie-orgasm ranting not too long ago, she repeatedly and loudly exclaimed that if Krispy wasn’t nominated, Romney would end up the GOP nominee and was SURE TO LOSE to Barry! So, when she’s in her new Mitt-orgasm mode, how can she claim that “electability” is Mitten’s strong suit in this present race? Perhaps somewhere in her giraffe-elongated neck lies the answer to this bloviating (since she’s now Billy O’s favorite “conservative”) hypocrisy!! The spin stops here, Annie!!! (But, then, coming from the Chris Shays Connecticut wing of the Republican party, what can you expect???)


13 posted on 12/17/2011 4:17:44 AM PST by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: Jim Robinson

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14 posted on 12/17/2011 4:20:39 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Jim Robinson

I intend to support Gingrich if he is the candidate. I’ll support Perry if he is the candidate.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 4:32:36 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
>"It is disgraceful and a tactic one usually expects from the Demo-Rats. "

What's the difference between Mittens and Demon Rats?

16 posted on 12/17/2011 4:35:15 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
For those who missed last night's O'Reilly, I have officially removed Coulter from my radar screen...

Welcome to the club.

She lost me months ago with her hyperbolic shilling for Christie.

17 posted on 12/17/2011 4:36:39 AM PST by THX 1138 ("Harry, I have a gift.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you, Andrew McCarthy. SHAME ON NRO...this sin is less forgivable than all of Newt’s “indescretions”, in my book.
I’m voting for Newt JUST BECAUSE the good ole GOP is telling me not to and I’M SICK OF IT. They need a good spanking and since Sarah isn’t running, Newt is my protest vote.

GO NEWT !


18 posted on 12/17/2011 4:41:55 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Gingrich’s virtues are shortchanged...”...and other conservatives are ignored or excoriated.

Indeed! .....not to mention the FEAR FACTOR, which was mentioned by this author and by Rush: They are afraid of conservative principles. They fear losing their power. They are afraid of reform of the *status quo* in Washington DC. This nation does not simply need to fix its economic policies. It needs something FAR more profound...and I honestly think that operating by conservative PRINCIPLES, which include seeking God’s wisdom and assistance, is EXACTLY what is needed.

Some of the people over at National Review need to revisit the talks and writings of William Buckley. They’ve wandered from the path...

Thanks to Andrew C. McCarthy for adding his voice to the few others who still have brains and some wisdom.

Hmmmm ....what about a Gingrich/Perry team?


19 posted on 12/17/2011 4:43:20 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Reagan69

And furthermore, GOP, that money you keep asking me for, I’m sending another donation to NEWT !


20 posted on 12/17/2011 4:45:20 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Jim Robinson

https://www.newt.org/donate


21 posted on 12/17/2011 5:17:25 AM PST by petercooper (2012 - Purge more RINO's.)
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To: Jim Robinson
balance between the treatment of that candidate and of his rivals. The editorial fails on both scores.

Gingrich’s virtues are shortchanged—his great accomplishment in balancing the federal budget is not even mentioned, an odd omission in an election that is primarily about astronomical spending. His downsides are exaggerated...

I'll settle for a balanced budget long before I vote for the mittens. Fair treatment?? Why didn't the SRM go after 0 bummer after his 57 states remark? These "reporters" are really ticking me off more and more every day. They have NO CLUE why all the dead tree editions and now the on line sites are looking more like Jurassic Park dinosaur's remains.

22 posted on 12/17/2011 5:24:29 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Reagan69

I’m with you completely.
I almost lost my breakfast when Sununu - who gave us Souter - declared that Newt was not a real conservative. I’ve had enough of lectures from the country club.
In March, when we have our primary, my head will probably vote for Newt by default (my heart is with Bachmann.)
Newt, alone among the candidates, has raised the issue of judicial tyranny. No one else had the courage, and of course, he is getting blasted by those who love being ruled by judges.


23 posted on 12/17/2011 5:26:59 AM PST by Malesherbes (- Sauve qui peut)
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I forgot to say that I’ll settle for a Gingrich and Perry ticket in either order. I was rooting for Bachman, but she used the wrong pistol in the last debate.


24 posted on 12/17/2011 5:27:44 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Jim Robinson
NRO usually pimps Romney because of something he said.

But which time? Which time?


Milt Romney – the Magic RINO:
"I'm not running as the Republican view
or a continuation of Republican values.
That's not what brings me to the race.

(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)



"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
 over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
 to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldn’t make any sense at all.""

--  President Ronald Reagan



25 posted on 12/17/2011 5:27:47 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson

The big boys want Mitt Jim. You are not supposed to try to upset the republican progressive order of things.


26 posted on 12/17/2011 5:44:23 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Jim Robinson

When Gingrich wins, the libs, lefties and msm are going to go ballistic as might some of the GOP. Though I am hoping those GOP members will help circle the wagons and fight the attacks, yet I can envision them jumping ship and joining the rioters. It will be some 4-8 year ride as they will be worse then they were when Regan was President. They hated Regan and the press et al was constant slamming him. And if 911 hadn’t happened it would have been just as bad against Bush, not that it wasn’t bad, it would have been worse. The msm is full of vitriol for anyone, but dims, socialists and commies. So much for their supposed unbias reporting.


27 posted on 12/17/2011 5:48:44 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: hosepipe

Ron Paul is nuts. Schizophrenia best describes his politics.


28 posted on 12/17/2011 5:51:06 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: petercooper

Just sent $300.


29 posted on 12/17/2011 5:51:32 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ve been wondering wether or not to renew my subsctription.
Maybe not.


30 posted on 12/17/2011 5:56:49 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters. Let the dead rest in peace.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Here was the comment I left on the NR site.

After being a loyal reader for just the reasons you described, I had decided that I was finished with NR. The constant cheer leading for non conservatives and an unwillingness to focus on records has been a real turnoff. I decided to remove NR from my favorites and browser as I didn’t want any of clicks or sponsorship to in effect be complicit with those who are destroying a once proud institution.

The only reason I clicked on the website was due to your article that was excerpted on free republic.

Andrew, I think your article was the singlemost thought out and well articulated article I’ve seen in a very long time. I would like to hope that you could work to restore NR from the inside....however I think it is too far gone. My suggestion would be for you and a few other conservatives to find a new outlet that appreciates in depth analyses as opposed to a drive by Paula Abdul popularity contest.


31 posted on 12/17/2011 6:01:31 AM PST by vmivol00
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I LOVE how Andrew REMINDED us that the Congresscritters that ousted Newt are the ones who went on to SPEND US INTO OBLIVION with BUSH and OBAMA!!!

THANK YOU, ANDREW!!!!

32 posted on 12/17/2011 6:03:38 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Jim Robinson

What’s the big deal? Does anybody actually care what NR thinks anymore?

Forty years ago I read it religiously. I stopped reading it about 20 years ago.

Regarding Gingrich, if the primary in my state were today, I’d vote for him, warts and all. If he becomes the nominee, I become a broken glass Republican.


33 posted on 12/17/2011 6:04:16 AM PST by Lucas McCain (The day may come when the courage of men will fail, but not this day.)
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To: nuvista

One of Ann’s best friends is BILL MAHER!! Need I say more??


34 posted on 12/17/2011 6:06:05 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That was an excellent article. I particularly liked the part about what Congress did after they succeeded in ousting Newt (although I still don’t like it that he quit/and or let them oust him).

Who are they to deride Newt’s lack of leadership when they showed none themselves after they got rid of him.

And I also appreciate the defense of Perry against the cheap shots taken by National Review — more suited to Saturday Night Live or Jon Stewart.

What’s wrong with National Review???


35 posted on 12/17/2011 6:09:00 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: nuvista
Please find the Screen Shots comparing Coulter’s flip flop. And add text to the screen shots and then show both together side by side. Then we need to post this picture of the newest member to the John Kerry Flip Flop Club with a documented tag that...

John Kerry, “I Actually Did Vote for the $87 Billion, Before I voted Against It”

Ann Coulter, “I Actually Did Say Romney Would Lose, Before I said He Would Win.”

We need to start documented her flip flops and any time she opens her mouth, call her Flip Flop Coulter.

36 posted on 12/17/2011 6:25:32 AM PST by show
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To: Diogenesis

Can you make one of those for Coulter’s flip flops?

Flip Flop Coulter hates Conservatives like Newt. And maybe another one with her over the top Hater attitude for Newt.


37 posted on 12/17/2011 6:29:24 AM PST by show
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To: hosepipe

Ron Paul has the same problem as Obama...a zealous adherance to his political philosophy. It is fine and admiriable to have a political philosophy that GUIDES you, but as soon as you let it DICTATE to you, you become one-dimensional, and unable to adapt to realities at hand. There is no universal law in politics that governs the actions of men, when the very meaning of politics in the first place is dealing with difference between us.


38 posted on 12/17/2011 6:45:07 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Reagan69

I’m sending another donation to NEWT !

Me too!
Go Newt!!


39 posted on 12/17/2011 6:45:07 AM PST by astratt7 (obama,muslim,politics)
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To: Jim Robinson

This is a really devatating article that shows how far NR has sunk from the great days of WFB. Indeed, it’s expeciall so in that McCarthy is one of its finest, most well-informed writers and a terrific lawyer. To have one of its best people flame it this scathingly is truly astounding.


40 posted on 12/17/2011 7:02:35 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Jim Robinson
And as for Gingrich’s Republican “colleagues,” whom the Editors applaud for ejecting him from the speakership, no one can deny that they had their reasons. But is there not another side of that story worth telling? In the seven years they controlled Congress after Gingrich left, didn’t these esteemed colleagues have something of a “weakness for half-baked (and not especially conservative) ideas”? Under a Republican president, they added over $3 trillion to the federal deficit, shunned conservative policy in favor of Beltway influence-peddling, and so damaged the GOP brand that we ended up, first, with an electoral rout that lost the majority Gingrich had worked years to forge, and then, with Obama.

This is important and worth talking about. He is also the one that worked "16 years building the Republican majority" to then win the house in 1994 for the first time in 40 years

41 posted on 12/17/2011 7:32:06 AM PST by thirst4truth (The left elected a mouth that is unattached to an eye, brain or muscle.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Is NR contracting out the writing of their editorial endorsements to David Frum?


42 posted on 12/17/2011 7:53:18 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Jim Robinson

..it sounds like Ann Coulter is gradually going the way of Arianna Huffington


43 posted on 12/17/2011 7:57:08 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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44 posted on 12/17/2011 8:00:03 AM PST by narses
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To: Jim Robinson

One has to wonder why they keep sending Huntsman out of the country. All in all, a good plan.


45 posted on 12/17/2011 8:18:22 AM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: Jim Robinson

bfl


46 posted on 12/17/2011 8:46:51 AM PST by Mare (Hey Barack America is Baroke!)
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To: Malesherbes

Yes, Newt bringing up about the judges ruling from the bench - GO NEWT! He means business and giving him the power - the rats and rinos loose power. Their rants are showing they feel it’s a reality - let’s blast those maggots once and for all! Let’s reclaim our ‘WeThePeople’ status by voting for the candidate they are against - Newt.


47 posted on 12/17/2011 9:16:21 AM PST by presently no screen name (If it's not in God's Word, don't pass it off as truth! That's satan's job.)
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To: Jim Robinson

[ No, he’s not. Just has a few bats in the attic. ]

True.. but who can claim theres not the occasional bat in their roofing regions..
I sweep and sweep but cannot remove Sandy Burgular from my attic.. the critter keeps coming back..
I really will not be happy until he does the perp walk into Levenworth..

Funny the things that totally piss people off..
Sandy did it for me.. Chinagate bent my cane as well..

I suspect a couple of things have totally pissed Ron Paul off..
Its almost impossible to distract him from them..
I can respect that.. the boy does have a bat problem..


48 posted on 12/17/2011 10:10:14 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: raybbr

[ Ron Paul is nuts. Schizophrenia best describes his politics. ]

So... I see.. you’d be happier if he did the flip/flop a bit more..?
Theres no doubt about it.. a few things have totally pissed Ron Paul off..
And he will not be happy until they are rectified..

Are you a Rino?... I’m just asking..
Only Congress can declare “ACTUAL” wars....... not Presidents..
I know.. I know.. thats a Constitutional thing..
But then...... ALL OF Ron Pauls arguments are Constitutional in nature..

Its possible you have no idea of whats in the American Constitution..
I could then see why you would think Ron Paul is nuts..
Reading the “Federalist Papers” might help in your confusion..


49 posted on 12/17/2011 10:37:52 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: ez

[ Ron Paul has the same problem as Obama...a zealous adherance to his political philosophy. ]

Anything less is called flip flopping.. you know like Newt does..
Paul does not veer, Newt veers like a little girl in her imagination..

Romney just tricks democrats into voting for him, and is presently trying to trick republicans..

Obama does not flip flop either..
What he does is always the complete opposite of what he says he will do.. like clockwork..


50 posted on 12/17/2011 10:46:26 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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