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Barney Frank: Obama would win 300-plus electoral votes against Gingrich
The Hill ^ | 12-17-11 | Bob Cusak

Posted on 12/17/2011 7:56:50 AM PST by tcrlaf

Rep. Barney Frank is predicting that President Obama would easily win a general election against Newt Gingrich, but stopped short of guaranteeing that Obama would eclipse his 2008 victory.

The retiring Massachusetts Democrat recently said that a Gingrich nomination “would be the best thing to happen to the Democrats since Barry Goldwater.”

Asked for a prediction on electoral votes, Frank this week told The Hill, “The thing is [Gingrich] could carry most of the South.” He said Obama's count would be “in the 300s” against the Georgia Republican.

To win the White House, 270 electoral votes are needed.

Obama won 365 electoral votes in 2008 against Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who captured 173. In 1964, President Lyndon Johnson won 486 electoral votes to Goldwater’s 52.

Earlier this fall amid Texas Gov. Rick Perry's surge in the GOP primary polls, Frank said Mitt Romney would present a more difficult challenge for Democrats in the general election.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: barneyfrank; election; frank; gingrich; massachusetts; newtgingrich; obama
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The shrillness of the Democrats is getting louder...

I think they REALLY FEAR Gingrich speaking plain truth could bring everything tumbling down for them.

1 posted on 12/17/2011 7:57:01 AM PST by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Hmmmm—maybe Bwarney has his shorts in a twist....I hear that can stop blood flow to the brain.


2 posted on 12/17/2011 7:59:41 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: tcrlaf

This prediction brought to you by the same man that said Fannie and Freddie were doing fine.....


3 posted on 12/17/2011 7:59:54 AM PST by massmike (Massachusetts:Stopped hanging witches;started electing Kennedys.Coincidence?)
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To: tcrlaf

Thus is the canary in a cage proof that the biggest supporters of Obama fear Gingrich the most because if it were true Barney Frank would never publicly say it.


4 posted on 12/17/2011 8:00:27 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (http://tinyurl.com/boj2xhv)
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To: tcrlaf

lol

and Carter was 20 points ahead of Reagan !


5 posted on 12/17/2011 8:00:26 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Newt Gingrich 2012!)
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To: tcrlaf

I don’t think he’d win by that much but he will beat Gingrich.


6 posted on 12/17/2011 8:02:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: tcrlaf
The shrillness of the Democrats is getting louder... I think they REALLY FEAR Gingrich speaking plain truth could bring everything tumbling down for them.

Democrats lie. A democrat will lie about what he had for breakfast. If they're saying Gingrich will ensure an Obama win, then you can be confident the opposite was true.

Notice no Democrat says anything bad about Romney during primary season.

7 posted on 12/17/2011 8:03:46 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: tcrlaf

That’s the same Barney Frank that told us there was nothing wrong at Fannie Mae, right?


8 posted on 12/17/2011 8:04:46 AM PST by tacticalogic (e)
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To: cripplecreek

Romney’s position is a lot worse. He would lose the south and his home state of Massachusetts.

Gingrich would win both of his home states by wide margins. Virginia and Georgia are a lock if Newt is the nominee.


9 posted on 12/17/2011 8:06:03 AM PST by o2bfree
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To: basil
I hear that can stop blood flow to the brain.

Yeah, especially when your brain is between your legs.

10 posted on 12/17/2011 8:06:29 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: o2bfree

So Romney would lose by even more. Meh


11 posted on 12/17/2011 8:08:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: tcrlaf
Barney has never been right about anything....right down to his "lifestyle"..

...so what makes anyone think that he will be right about predictions on who is going to win an election which occurs in 11 months? ...

12 posted on 12/17/2011 8:08:38 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: tcrlaf
ahhhh....the Banking Queen, knows


13 posted on 12/17/2011 8:13:13 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: tcrlaf
Heard on the "best" of the cadaver imus, that 0 would carry all 50 states if Newt was the opponent.

Then I hear charlie gasp perino state basically the same thing.

Must be the new narrative.

fox has become the SOS, not worthy of my time anymore.

14 posted on 12/17/2011 8:13:32 AM PST by Post5203 (Newter 0bama)
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To: tcrlaf

Awwwww, it’s just Barney Frank talkin’ out his love-hole, again. No, seriously, he can literally talk out of his love-hole. His love-hole has had more traffic than the Holland Tunnel. It’s so wide that his vocal chords dropped down into his bowels. There’s still guys missing in Barney’s love-hole from the Obama victory celebration back in 2008. See if you can find any clips of him singing by a piano. He won’t do it. He tried it once, and there was a candelabra behind him on the piano and he blew out all the candles when he did his rendition of “I LOVE BEING A GIRL!”.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 8:14:19 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: tcrlaf

Barney Frank next job will be a comedy show in Vegas with Debbie Wasserman Shultz.


16 posted on 12/17/2011 8:16:14 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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To: tcrlaf

I don’t know what Frank is on, but it must pretty good stuff to get him that far from reality.


17 posted on 12/17/2011 8:16:42 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: cripplecreek

Are there that many voters that are on Obama’s side? If so, America is lost.


18 posted on 12/17/2011 8:17:33 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: tcrlaf

aahhhh....Barney’s scared.....


19 posted on 12/17/2011 8:18:27 AM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: tcrlaf; Sick of Lefties; Chainmail; StrongandPround; lilyramone; crusadersoldier; Ellzeena; ...
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20 posted on 12/17/2011 8:18:56 AM PST by narses
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To: tcrlaf

This is the BEST proof yet we are on the right track!


21 posted on 12/17/2011 8:19:02 AM PST by ConfidentConservative (I think, therefore I am conservative.)
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To: tcrlaf

I’m not sure the “Mean old white dude” line of attack is going to work nearly as well on Gingrich as it did on McCain. The only way the Democrats get to 300 EV’s is with massive fraud - which will work equally well against any Republican.


22 posted on 12/17/2011 8:22:05 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: tcrlaf

America’s economy and security have become one big junkyard. It will take a “junkyard dawg” to clear the place up. I’ll give Newt a 4 year shot at it. He knows his way around the yard and is not afraid to bite. He knows he has only one shot left to go down in history as the President who saved America from the Marxists/Socialists/Communists. Its Newt’s time.


23 posted on 12/17/2011 8:22:19 AM PST by StraightDave (.)
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To: tcrlaf

Yea, like I’m going to listen to a guy that will put a feces incrusted p*nis in his mouth.....


24 posted on 12/17/2011 8:23:02 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: tcrlaf

Can we act like adults here for a moment? Who really gives a frip what the queer Bwaney Frank thinks?


25 posted on 12/17/2011 8:24:22 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Good Point.


26 posted on 12/17/2011 8:24:43 AM PST by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: tcrlaf

Whew! With Barney’s record, I am now sure that the OPPOSITE will come true.


27 posted on 12/17/2011 8:24:55 AM PST by struggle
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To: tcrlaf
I think they REALLY FEAR Palin, Bachmann, Trump,Perry, Cain, Gingrich.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I heard this ridiculous notion. Who will they fear next? Santorum?

28 posted on 12/17/2011 8:26:44 AM PST by Huck (No.)
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To: tcrlaf
Barney Frank: Obama would win 300-plus electoral votes against Gingrich

Well, while he's pulling numbers out of his fat wrinkled butt, why not a million billion electoral votes? With all of the rat fraud we can expect, that's probably going to be closer to the final count.

29 posted on 12/17/2011 8:27:27 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: tcrlaf

Considering the miraculous {snicker} decline in the unemployment number to 8.6% from 9.1%, and considering that the MSM and Dems have about 10 months for rehabilitation and resurrection, they can make Obama look great by next November.

And they have plenty of time to go through Gingrich’s trainload of baggage, little by little during the coming months.

The GOP nominee will have an uphill battle by next November. I just don’t see another Grand OLD Party white-haired guy getting much of the current 48% or so who support Obama already, nor the guy making much headway, unless the economy collapses and joblessness rises back into the 9-10% range.

For all the hoopla, Gingrich has too much baggage and the MSM/Dems will reveal every piece of it they can.


30 posted on 12/17/2011 8:27:48 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Vaquero

What has been seen, cannot be unseen.


31 posted on 12/17/2011 8:30:30 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: cripplecreek
Why do you believe that? Maybe in a vacuum but Obama has a record of non-accomplishment to anyone other than the far left and minority voters he already has, so I'm not understanding you conviction.

You may not like them all, but Gingrich has real accomplishments while in a position that mattered.

32 posted on 12/17/2011 8:31:04 AM PST by WHBates
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To: Vaquero

http://paulshanklin.com/mp3_samples/18.mp3


33 posted on 12/17/2011 8:31:16 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: tcrlaf

Wait... You are joking, right?

No. They do not fear Gingrich at all. He is the establishment candidate that they want.

Name 5 things different that Obama has done that Gingrich would have done differently.


34 posted on 12/17/2011 8:32:09 AM PST by DecoyJames
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To: tcrlaf

Is there ANYTHING about this guy that isn’t perverted?


35 posted on 12/17/2011 8:32:09 AM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: tcrlaf
"If you want to put people in jail, you ought to start with Barney Frank, Chris Dodd,"

Gingrich in Presidential Debate 10/11/11

36 posted on 12/17/2011 8:32:31 AM PST by alrea
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To: cripplecreek

IMHO, I think that 0 would be hard put to accumaulate 300 EV’s if he ran unopposed.


37 posted on 12/17/2011 8:33:34 AM PST by skimbell
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To: tcrlaf

Don’t know how Gingrich would do, but I’m going to claim straight-up bs on that one.


38 posted on 12/17/2011 8:35:30 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: TomGuy
For all the hoopla, Gingrich has too much baggage and the MSM/Dems will reveal every piece of it they can.

Exactly what baggage do you fear? What makes you think that these MSM/Dems won't exploit Romney's baggage or any of the other potential rivals or should I say likely rivals.

39 posted on 12/17/2011 8:35:42 AM PST by WHBates
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Barny Frank must be on the same drug as Dr Michael Savage.


40 posted on 12/17/2011 8:47:26 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: massmike

BTTT
Ditto
2 thumbs up
etc etc etc


41 posted on 12/17/2011 8:48:51 AM PST by marty60
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To: massmike

BTTT
Ditto
2 thumbs up
etc etc etc


42 posted on 12/17/2011 8:48:51 AM PST by marty60
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To: tcrlaf
I think they REALLY FEAR Gingrich speaking plain truth ...

Exactly. There's a reason Barney Frank is saying this. And it's not because he believes the lie. He's trying to negatively influence gullible voters.

43 posted on 12/17/2011 8:50:45 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: tcrlaf

Well then the RATS have Zero to worry about. Good thing
people don’t mind being unemployed.


44 posted on 12/17/2011 8:59:27 AM PST by rod1
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To: tcrlaf

Well then the RATS have Zero to worry about. Good thing
people don’t mind being unemployed.


45 posted on 12/17/2011 8:59:46 AM PST by rod1
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To: Fresh Wind

LOL!


46 posted on 12/17/2011 9:02:04 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: tcrlaf
a Gingrich nomination “would be the best thing to happen to the Democrats since Barry Goldwater.”

Then why say it? If my opponent is on the verge of doing something that will benefit my side, i'm surely not going to point out what a disaster it'd be for him.

It's obvious that Gingrich makes the democrats (and establishment republicans) nervous, for he is unpredictable, uncontrollable, and would unquestioningly shake up the status quo if elected. Romney is the safe pick for the ruling class, one who wouldn't stray too far from our current headings should he beat Obama. Then after 4 or 8 years the dems would be able to pick up where they left off without too much trouble.

47 posted on 12/17/2011 9:04:15 AM PST by Humbug (the media rule the world and they know it....)
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To: basil

Frank’s probably right...the biggest problem Gingrich has is that nobody likes him...personally. He maybe be smart, competent, a great debator, but nobody likes him...He is bombastic, arrogant, pompous, conceited, looks down upon people, and all around, not likable. He’s the male Hillary Clinton and Al Gore combined-—and, let’s be honest, you have to be likable to be president. Just like at the current one, he’s totally incompetent and ridiculous, but probably a great guy to have a beer with.


48 posted on 12/17/2011 9:10:07 AM PST by gman992 ("I'm a conservative. I'm just a happy conservative.")
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To: tcrlaf
Yeh, and Hitler will be our next defense secretary.

They fear Newt because, while taking a nap, he can mentally best any liberal.

49 posted on 12/17/2011 9:12:33 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: gman992

Well whatever you might say about him he got the job done before and I hope to see him do the job needing done ahead in out country.

Frankly I don’t care if people like Newt or not...he’s got the goods we need as a nation to get rid of those who are taking it down...and i won’t expect him to be liked while he’s doing so.


50 posted on 12/17/2011 9:14:01 AM PST by caww
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