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Is the Democrats’ Attempt To Recall Scott Walker A Mistake?
Powerline ^ | 12-16-11 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 12/17/2011 9:15:28 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

The national labor unions have accumulated more than 500,000 signatures on their petition to recall Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin, so they are getting close. There is no process, apparently, for validating the signatures, so it is impossible to say how many are fraudulent. But it seems probable that one way or another, a recall election will take place in May. Will that election be a triumph for the Democrats?

Ann Althouse thinks not:

Let’s assume the signature-gatherers hit the mark and trigger a recall. Walker can only be removed if the Democrats come up with an opponent who beats him in the recall election. What are they going to use for money?

But the Democratic Party reported raising just under $1.2 million between July 1 and Dec. 10 to support its own role in the recall attempt. It has $360,000 in cash on hand.

But money is never the Democrats’ problem. As long as the national unions can extort money from their members against their will, there will be no shortage of cash on the left. I assume the pro-recall forces will outspend the pro-Walker forces by at least two or three to one.

Meanwhile, Walker is still raking money in, and under state law there is no limit on donations, and some people are handing him checks in excess of $200,000.

That is correct. There is currently a window in which you can contribute whatever you want to Walker’s campaign. As I wrote here, you should. You can donate to Walker’s re-election campaign here. Don’t worry if you can only spare a few dollars. Every little bit helps.

This money will flood into an immense advertising campaign next year. Next year, when all the presidential candidates are trying to get attention and when there’s a Senate race here in Wisconsin. Walker will continue to collect donations and spend it freely to promote the conservative agenda in Wisconsin, lending collateral assistance to the Republican candidates in the other 2012 elections. (And candidates in the regular elections have limits on the amounts donors can give them.)

Wisconsin is a key swing state in the presidential election. And Senate seat being vacated by Democrat Herb Kohl could be the one that tips the Senate Republican. The Walker recall could spell nationwide disaster for Democrats.

I certainly hope so, but that is an awfully optimistic assessment. Much more money will be spent to unseat Governor Walker than to re-elect him. On the other hand, the Democrats don’t have a candidate, and it is very weird to recall a governor for doing exactly what he promised to do when he ran for office.

I do think Ann is right that Wisconsin will be the eye of the hurricane in 2012 (or one of them, anyway). I would love to see Walker raise so much money that he can contribute to other Republican campaigns, but that strikes me as highly unlikely. Still, Ann may be right that the Walker recall is a strategic blunder by the Democrats. They chose to turn Wisconsin into Armageddon, betting that they had a better chance of recalling Walker in 2012 than defeating him in 2014, when the success of his policies would be apparent to nearly everyone. If they lose–as I think they will–the lesson will be that honest politicians can stand up to the union bullies, and win.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: recall; scottwalker; senators; walker; wisconsin; wisconsinshowdown
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I attended a large gathering last night of antirecall workers ready to man the battle stations to halt this recall attempt. I signed a huge card in support of the governor. I'm ready to go.

Scott Walker is my hero!

1 posted on 12/17/2011 9:15:35 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Any recent polls on this?


2 posted on 12/17/2011 9:18:23 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; TaMoDee; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...
Wisconsin Walker ping. Please let me know if you want on, or off, this ping list. I'm subbing for Diana in Wisconsin and keeping the list.
3 posted on 12/17/2011 9:18:55 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Signalman

I don’t know of any polls. I just know people I see every day. I don’t know ANYBOdy who wants Walker recalled, except for a couple of flaming libs in the neighborhood.


4 posted on 12/17/2011 9:21:04 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Signalman

I don’t know of any polls. I just know people I see every day. I don’t know ANYBOdy who wants Walker recalled, except for a couple of flaming libs in the neighborhood.


5 posted on 12/17/2011 9:21:32 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The only way Walker will win is if the Secretary of State “accidentally” misplaces the returns from one or more GOP-leaning counties, in the initial counts.

The Dem machine will manufacture enough votes to win, no matter how long that takes. The only way to beat them is to mislead them as to how many votes they need.


6 posted on 12/17/2011 9:21:43 AM PST by jdege
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Shouldn’t that say ‘lean forward’?


7 posted on 12/17/2011 9:23:04 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: jdege

The SOS is a flaming lib and will do no favors for Walker.


8 posted on 12/17/2011 9:23:36 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: jdege

It worked once - lets see if the GOP can pull it off again.


9 posted on 12/17/2011 9:23:57 AM PST by skeeter
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If Wisconsin wants to have a willy nilly recall process they should add to the chaos by saying there can be an anti-recall petition. So they subtract those that do want to recall vs. those that do not. And then if those that do have more signatures they can win. I’d say minimum thresholds of signatures need to be gained, but since they aren’t checking them why bother. It’s really a race to see who can forge the most signatures.


10 posted on 12/17/2011 9:24:26 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

http://www.wisconsinaction.com/


11 posted on 12/17/2011 9:24:43 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
There is no process, apparently, for validating the signatures, so it is impossible to say how many are fraudulent. But it seems probable that one way or another, a recall election will take place in May. Will that election be a triumph for the Democrats?

Could be a practice drill to see how well they can manipulate the upcoming 2012 contests. Sort of a "Red Army/Blue Army" field exercise before the main battle. They will try to subvert the elections...count on that as a given.

12 posted on 12/17/2011 9:31:03 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The seal contains a hammer and plow. Is a plow different from a sickle?

Does the seal hide communist symbolism? Is that basic at the root symbolism going to get Scott recalled?


13 posted on 12/17/2011 9:31:07 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Thanks for the link. Everybody in the nation wit typing and computer skills can join the “verify movement sponsored by the Tea Party to build a data base. The more the merrier because we will have to enter at least 700,000 signatures into a data base. I attended an organizing meeting last night, and it sounds pretty slick and easy on those of us entering data. But, we have to get the data in and cross-checked within 2 weeks, unless the Walker people can get an extension.

I’ll try to find a link so you all can sign up.


14 posted on 12/17/2011 9:34:15 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: bert
"The seal contains a hammer and plow. Is a plow different from a sickle?"

Those symbols stand for farming, manufacturing, fishing and mining...all prominent in Wisconsin history.

15 posted on 12/17/2011 9:36:33 AM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
http://www.verifytherecall.com/
16 posted on 12/17/2011 9:39:23 AM PST by TaxPayer2000
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To: afraidfortherepublic
For those wishing to help with verifying the recall signatures:

Verify the Recall

Remember, all volunteers can help. I coul dtake only an hour of your time. Every signature will be checked twice.

17 posted on 12/17/2011 9:40:21 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: bert; gorush

That is the silliest comment I’ve ever read, bert. INDUSTRY. The seal stands for historic industries that made Wisconsin prosperous. Gorush has it right.


18 posted on 12/17/2011 9:43:10 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Two days ago on our way home from a trip in the R.V. we stopped at Williston Crossings near Ocala Florida where I spoke with two retired (retarded) teachers from Wisconsin.
Staying there for the winter so they aren’t too stupid but they were so anti Walker I needled them as best I could.
Then we got on to occupy wall street and I simply asked ,”what the hell is that all about anyway”? and again they nearly went cookoo for coco puffs.


19 posted on 12/17/2011 9:43:42 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: TaxPayer2000

Thanks, taxpayer.


20 posted on 12/17/2011 9:44:09 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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