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House GOP revolts on payroll deal
Politico ^ | 12-17-11 | John Allen and Jake Sherman

Posted on 12/17/2011 4:19:09 PM PST by Yankee

House Republicans are in full revolt in the wake of Senate passage of a two-month payroll tax holiday package, casting serious doubt on the fate of a bill that already has President Barack Obama’s approval.

Republican leaders were warned that they could expect a rebellion if lawmakers are forced to vote on the Senate version of the bill, according to a source on the line. After the call, it’s not clear whether Republican leaders will try to pass the bill with a combination of Republican and Democratic votes or try another version and bring the Senate back to town. Leadership is expected to reconvene this weekend to talk about how to proceed.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; payroll; paytoll
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The fat lady's sat back down.
1 posted on 12/17/2011 4:19:14 PM PST by Yankee
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To: Yankee

DeMint had an article earlier.

This would be total capitulation by the GOP if they pass it.


2 posted on 12/17/2011 4:22:10 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Yankee

Hmmm, by the RATs own logic, isn’t this A SPENDING BILL??? One that must ORIGINATE in the House?


3 posted on 12/17/2011 4:22:15 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("At a time like this, we can't afford the luxury of thinking!")
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To: Yankee

Truth is, Politico has it backward: Republican leadership is in rebellion . . . against the majority of the American people.


4 posted on 12/17/2011 4:23:12 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Yankee

McConnell and Boehner are the Democrats whipping boys. They are complicit in Obama’s plans.

I bet you dollars to doughnuts, they are supporters of Romney.


5 posted on 12/17/2011 4:24:16 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: Yankee

First of all, the GOP would never inconvenience any members by having them come back into DC over Christmas holidays.


6 posted on 12/17/2011 4:26:10 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: GeronL

Bonehead and Cantor will pass it like they did with the Debt Ceiling...

With Democrat House Votes.

What does this tell you about Bonehead and Cantor?


7 posted on 12/17/2011 4:26:35 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Yankee

If bonehead passes this his time is up. And along with ever Republican in the House. The ride is over. Time for total rebellion.


8 posted on 12/17/2011 4:29:14 PM PST by Logical me
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To: tennmountainman

That neither will be in the leadership in the next Congress.


9 posted on 12/17/2011 4:29:21 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Yankee
tracker
10 posted on 12/17/2011 4:29:45 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (http://tinyurl.com/boj2xhv)
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To: Yankee
it’s not clear whether Republican leaders will try to pass the bill with a combination of Republican and Democratic votes

It's not? Yes it is, how do you think we got the "stuper-committee"?
11 posted on 12/17/2011 4:31:26 PM PST by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: Yankee
I thought getting Keystone decided on in 2 months was a good deal in exchange for the other items.

What's the main gripe?

12 posted on 12/17/2011 4:33:12 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Frank Sheed

For this country’s sake, I hope u are right.


13 posted on 12/17/2011 4:34:31 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Siena Dreaming
I thought getting Keystone decided on in 2 months was a good deal in exchange for the other items.

I forget what Republicans recently gave away in exchange for a vote on a balanced budget. A vote can always be NO, and it was. How stupid are they...giving away something now for a vote on something later...very!

14 posted on 12/17/2011 4:36:50 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: vmivol00

“McConnell and Boehner are the Democrats whipping boys. They are complicit in Obama’s plans.

I bet you dollars to doughnuts, they are supporters of Romney.”

You are right...Romney is a carbon copy of those two, with a heavy dose of carbon.

BTW at the rate we are going dollars and doughnuts, will soon be of equal value, if something is not done soon, a doughnut could far exceed the value of a dollar.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 4:38:15 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Yankee
Is this the bill that had the incandescent light bulb ban "ban" in it?

Should I be heading to Lowes tomorrow?

16 posted on 12/17/2011 4:43:52 PM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: NonValueAdded

“...isn’t this A SPENDING BILL??? One that must ORIGINATE in the House?...”
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By trickery,
this requirement of our Constitution (like so many others) has become meaningless.

In our new world,
the senate can attach anything they want to regarding spending
to any bill they want to that originated in the house
and claim that they can do so because the bill originated in the house.

See Constitution of the United States Article 1 Section 7:
“All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.”


17 posted on 12/17/2011 4:51:39 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: moovova

The bill did not repeal the light bulb ban.
It did, however, specify that no funds could be used to enforce the ban.
But Loews and Home Depot or anyone else would be foolish
to try to sell 100 watt light bulbs after January 1st.


18 posted on 12/17/2011 4:55:11 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Frank Sheed

Boner and McConnell have cooked their own goose.


19 posted on 12/17/2011 4:55:24 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: NonValueAdded

My sense is that amending a bill is within the purview of the Senate, so they can amend away the old bill so that it looks entirely new.


20 posted on 12/17/2011 4:56:14 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Freee-dame
Keystone wasn't a vote on something later.

It forced Obama to decide the issue in 2 months...a very GOOD thing.

21 posted on 12/17/2011 5:09:58 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Yankee

send it back! the senate bill was designed for Dems and Obama to beat on Republicans for the next 2 months.


22 posted on 12/17/2011 5:10:09 PM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: All

The key requirement is that THIS EXTENSION BE PAID FOR DEFICIT NEUTRAL.

They just have not grasped reality. If you do not empty cubicles, then you did not cut. They must cut spending to pay for this and it’s killing them to know it.


23 posted on 12/17/2011 5:16:47 PM PST by Owen
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To: Siena Dreaming
I thought getting Keystone decided on in 2 months was a good deal in exchange for the other items.

A decision of NO is perfectly acceptable to the GOP?? What logic is that? It is to fool the sheeple again just like the $100 BILLION CUT promised from the 2012 budget. No such cuts exists, it was a $300 MILLION reduction in the RATE OF GROWTH.

WAKE UP AMERICA IT IS ALREADY TOO LATE.
24 posted on 12/17/2011 5:17:14 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: vmivol00
You can bet the farm that they are ALL backing that baby killing, gun grabbing, fagot loving, kennedy ass kissing, dog abusing romney!

LLS

25 posted on 12/17/2011 5:22:48 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Yankee

DeMint is the only one I trust to get anything right.

The 1200+ page porkulus the House passed is an outrage.


26 posted on 12/17/2011 5:26:38 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Cheerio
A decision of NO is perfectly acceptable to the GOP?? What logic is that?

He very well may have said yes after the '12 election...he doesn't care about alienating the enviros then.

This forces the decision...he will either alienate the unions or the enviros. And it also allows the pipeline people to look for another location elsewhere if they have to soon rather than waiting over a year to create those jobs.

27 posted on 12/17/2011 5:27:39 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: LibLieSlayer

The best part is that in exchange for their endorsement of Romney they get a free subscription to National Review!


28 posted on 12/17/2011 5:28:28 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: berdie

later


29 posted on 12/17/2011 5:28:33 PM PST by berdie
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To: LibLieSlayer

dog abusing?

did I miss something?


30 posted on 12/17/2011 5:30:30 PM PST by JosephMama (Who to choose, who to choose...)
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To: JosephMama

He is referring to how the Romney family dog travels cross country....strapped to the roof of the car!


31 posted on 12/17/2011 5:34:27 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: Yankee
Democrats, Republicans - Maybe A Dime's Bit Of Difference

~ Larry Elder, "The Ten Things You Can't Say In America"

32 posted on 12/17/2011 5:40:49 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Yankee

This post is part of a Rudyard Kipling poem “The Old Issue” about freedom and how it is obtained.

All we have of freedom, all we use or know—
This our fathers bought for us long and long ago.

Ancient Right unnoticed as the breath we draw—
Leave to live by no man’s leave, underneath the Law—

Lance and torch and tumult, steel and grey-goose wing,
Wrenched it, inch and ell and all, slowly from the King.

Till our fathers ‘stablished, after bloody years,
How our King is one with us, first among his peers.

So they bought us freedom—not at little cost—
Wherefore must we watch the King, lest our gain be lost.

Over all things certain, this is sure indeed,
Suffer not the old King: for we know the breed.


33 posted on 12/17/2011 5:42:59 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: vmivol00

Don’t forget a dinner with bill kristol, charles krauthammer, fred barnes and alan colmes.

LLS


34 posted on 12/17/2011 5:48:01 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: JosephMama
He and his family were on vacation... romney had a Golden I think... big blonde dog... the dog had gas so willard puts him in a crate tied to the luggage rack... on top of their vehicle... and proceeded to drive down the Interstate... right through a thunderstorm... and you guessed it... the poor pooch was exposed on top of the car.

LLS

35 posted on 12/17/2011 5:54:25 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: tennmountainman


As was clear during abortive Republican investigations into various Clinton scandals, in the culture of impunity of Washington, politics stops at corruption's edge. Almost all major corruption is either bipartisan or common enough that one side can effectively blackmail the other.



36 posted on 12/17/2011 6:11:12 PM PST by glock rocks (Jesus take the wheel, Take it from my hands, cause I can't do this on my own...)
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To: Frank Sheed

Like the IA caucus-goers who know it’s Romney’s turn, GOP House members know that the same “mis-leadership” will be intact for as long as it wants to be. That’s just the way our little Republicans are, and we can’t do anything to change it.


37 posted on 12/17/2011 6:17:46 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Cheerio

Fooling the sheeple is the easiest sport of all. The sheeple really like being fooled, because it would take work to stand up to oppression.


38 posted on 12/17/2011 6:20:04 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Logical me

“Time for total rebellion”? Have you seen our little Republican primary voters? I bet they leave us flat again in the next two months.


39 posted on 12/17/2011 6:22:21 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

But Loews and Home Depot or anyone else would be foolish
to try to sell 100 watt light bulbs after January 1st.


Why? The demand would still be there.


40 posted on 12/17/2011 6:25:37 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: Repeal The 17th

Ace Hardware is going to continue selling them if they have supply.


41 posted on 12/17/2011 6:27:52 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Yankee
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right...
Trying to make some sense of it all,
But I can see that it makes no sense at all,
Is it cool to go to sleep on the floor,
'Cause I don't think that I can take anymore
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

42 posted on 12/17/2011 6:33:33 PM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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To: ecomcon; steve86

The reason I think the big guys will quit selling them is because of their lawyers.

I’ve got two hundred plus of them on hand now, should I buy more?

Loews still had them on the shelf yesterday.
The girl at the checkout had no clue of the impending ban.


43 posted on 12/17/2011 6:44:39 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Yankee; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...

Like I said last night. Boehner will twist a few arms and go to Pelosi for some Dem votes to get this passed and put off for two months, just like the debt limit.


44 posted on 12/17/2011 6:49:59 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: vmivol00

“I bet you dollars to doughnuts, they are supporters of Romney.”

I won’t take that bet as I believe you are correct. They are part of the team trying to shove Mitt Romney down out throats.


45 posted on 12/17/2011 6:50:57 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Yankee

Just nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.


46 posted on 12/17/2011 6:51:59 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: Yankee; All

I dunno. I think Free Republic has lately turned into a perpetual “Damn it, this isn’t a perfect effing deal!” screamfest. No Republican and/or no one to the RIGHT of Hussein (and EVERY REPUBLICAN IN THE RACE is to the RIGHT of Hussein) is good enough to be President.

Hussein has apparently backed down from the millionaires tax. Hussein has apparently backed down from the Keystone pipeline being IN the bill, and while it ain’t perfect, some folks still ARE SO ANXIOUS to see “disaster” in every movement of the body politic.

Damn, folks, we won big last year—but we only seized control of one house of one branch of government. We still have to get more Senators and the White House if we even have a CHANCE of getting something reasonable done. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush all warned us about the war on terror, and I think it applies to the war on liberalism: it’ll be a long, hard, slog.

Sometimes in a war, we find ourselves making alliances with people who aren’t as pure as we would like. But they are useful in defeating the common enemy. Hell, folks, the FRENCH helped us in the 18th century.

Speaking of that, I think sometimes people forget the Revolution wasn’t over in a year. If our forefathers gave up 13 months after declaring Independence from King George, we would still be subject to the monarchy.


47 posted on 12/17/2011 7:24:19 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: LibLieSlayer
Wait, wasn't that in National Lampoon's Vacation?
48 posted on 12/17/2011 7:25:06 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: Yankee

Well, I’m glad Schumer is giving Boehner a dig, even if it’s from the left. Boehner ain’t got no respect - that’s what happens to appeasers.


49 posted on 12/17/2011 7:25:27 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: Yankee

” - - - The Senate passed the bill, 89-10, on Saturday morning.”

Let us praise the brave 10 who voted as “The American People” wanted them to vote.

Does anyone know who they are?

BTW, the fourth option is the one that was not stated in the article: Keep the US Federal Government from writing hot checks by shutting down all entitlement payments, laying off all non-essential Federal workers (without pay), and stopping all salaries to Federally elected officials, and their staffs.

You know, the same way other big companies do when they run out of other peoples money.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70592.html#ixzz1gquW9kRB


50 posted on 12/17/2011 7:37:39 PM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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