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Hillary Clinton suggests Islamic governments fear religious debate
The Daily Caller ^ | 12-15-11 | Neil Munro

Posted on 12/17/2011 5:12:09 PM PST by bayouranger

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton used an international conference on religious freedom Wednesday as a platform to suggest that Islamic governments which suppress Christianity are secretly afraid Islam will lose out in a public debate.

“Every one of us who is a religious person knows there are some who may not support or approve of our religion, but is our religion so weak that statements of disapproval cause us to lose our faith?” she asked the attendees, who included national representatives from the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.

“Especially when one person’s speech seems to challenge another person’s religion’s belief, or maybe even offends that person’s religious beliefs … we defend our beliefs best by defending free speech for everyone,” she said, while citing her own experience as a Methodist — a Christian movement made up of many Protestant denominations, and where debate is common.

Clinton’s senior aide, the Saudi-born Huma Abedin, said the speech was largely unscripted. “Mostly, it was off-the-cuff,” Abedin told The Daily Caller.

Among the attendees were representatives of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Clinton did not mention any country by name, nor did she specifically mention Islam.

But her diplomatic rebuke of Islamic governments was daring and novel, partly because it may prompt a violent response, or even a careful counterargument, from advocates of Islam in the Arab world.

However, Clinton’s speech did not address similar sensitivities in the United States, where cooperating progressives and Islamists frequently say Islam’s critics are mentally ill, and typically refuse to debate the context and meaning of their own religious texts.

In August, for example, the liberal Center for American Progress issued a report titled “Fear, Inc.: The Roots of the Islamophobia Network in America.” The report was aimed at several critics of Islam, including Robert Spencer, a best-selling author whose repeated requests for debates have been ignored by allied progressive and Islamic advocates in the United States.

Similarly, Department of Justice officials have described American critics of Islam as mentally unstable, a danger to national security, or similar to the Ku Klux Klan, whose history includes frequent murders of black and Republican legislators and activists.

“Materials that portray Islam as a religion of violence or with a tendency towards violence are wrong, they are offensive … will not be tolerated,” and are a threat to national security, Dwight Holten, a top DOJ official, said on Oct. 19 at a Washington, D.C. event scheduled by the department.

Muslim immigrants to the United States may turn away from integration because of “Islamophobia” or racism, Holton added. When a reporter for TheDC asked Holton to explain his charges, he pushed a door shut in the reporter’s face.

At the same event, Mohamed Magid, a Sudan-born Islamic advocate in the United States, asked for criticism of Islam to be criminalized. One member of the audience was Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez, who did not rebuke or even respond to the request by Magid, who now serves as president of the largest Islamic umbrella group — the Islamic Society of North America. (RELATED: Progressives, Islamists huddle at Justice Department)

Secretary Clinton’s speech was delivered at the close of a closed-door conference intended to begin implementation of a 2011 U.N. resolution dubbed “16/18.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; jihad; koranimals; oic
“Every one of us who is a religious person knows there are some who may not support or approve of our religion, but is our religion so weak that statements of disapproval cause us to lose our faith?” she asked the attendees, who included national representatives from the Organization of Islamic Cooperation."

Freud was right.

Ladies & Gentlemen, the koranimal brays!

1 posted on 12/17/2011 5:12:18 PM PST by bayouranger
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To: bayouranger

That remark is going to go over like flatulence in church!


2 posted on 12/17/2011 5:13:37 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: bayouranger

Your link goes to the wrong article.


3 posted on 12/17/2011 5:13:53 PM PST by Publius
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To: bayouranger

Clinton’s senior aide, the Saudi-born Huma Abedin, said the speech was largely unscripted. “Mostly, it was off-the-cuff,” Abedin told The Daily Caller.

Her saudi-flavored salt lick came in quick to defend the hoofed one’s statement.


4 posted on 12/17/2011 5:14:09 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger

Hillary thinks she can lecture Islam.


5 posted on 12/17/2011 5:15:44 PM PST by x_plus_one (Obama: Brainwashing the masses to believe that racism is a greater danger than radical Islam)
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To: bayouranger

lol.

What was the first clue?


6 posted on 12/17/2011 5:16:08 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: bayouranger

Got to give Hillary credit for the chutzpah to ask the obvious, even if her reason for doing so was twisted. I’d scarcely call her a Christian but it’s a fair rhetorical question.


7 posted on 12/17/2011 5:17:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: Publius

http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/15/hillary-clinton-suggests-islamic-governments-fear-religious-debate/

I’m posting from the future where there are no koranimals & sometimes the urls get mixed up in the flux. Sorry.


8 posted on 12/17/2011 5:20:46 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: GeronL

Don’t bait me...I’ll play it too well.


9 posted on 12/17/2011 5:24:03 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger

LOL Saudi flavored salt lick LOL.

But Hillary’s question does make sense.

Unfortunately anyone who calls Islam a religion is wrong.

It isn’t a religion it is a political party that wish’s to dominate the world.Ony idiots believe it to be a religion.


10 posted on 12/17/2011 5:26:14 PM PST by Venturer
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To: bayouranger

Huma Abedin, - not Huma Aberdin Weiner? LOL

says she was speaking off the cuff - in other words, didn’t give her muzzie handler a heads up...

sounds like hitlery is preparing ground for a run. Watch your back, O’bumma. Looks like they’re getting ready to dump your as - ah, personage.


11 posted on 12/17/2011 5:32:59 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Bump!


12 posted on 12/17/2011 5:39:25 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: bayouranger

She is the stupidest bitch in the history of America!


13 posted on 12/17/2011 5:47:02 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: bayouranger
Criticism of Islam as a religion of intolerance will not be tolerated.

Those critics will all be beheaded!

14 posted on 12/17/2011 5:49:47 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: bayouranger

Well, let’s give her credit for saying something no other Democrat seems willing to say. Even if it’s a stopped-clock moment, I’ll give her a nod.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 5:53:13 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: bayouranger

Obviously Hillary has no clue what Islam is all about.


16 posted on 12/17/2011 5:55:22 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Dude...she said "religion", not religion(S).
17 posted on 12/17/2011 6:08:26 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: x_plus_one

Hillary’s comment is comical. Like the ground should fear gravity, Islam fears nothing.


18 posted on 12/17/2011 6:12:46 PM PST by blackdog (And justice for all.....(Offer not valid in all locations, and prices vary))
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To: maine-iac7
Bestiality is a Cardinal Sin...sorry Laz. Don't hit it.
19 posted on 12/17/2011 6:12:54 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
Well, let’s give her credit for saying something no other Democrat seems willing to say. Even if it’s a stopped-clock moment, I’ll give her a nod.

Say what you want about them, the Clintons have brilliant political sense. If they are distancing themselves from Islam and Obama right now, they know that something is about to happen.

20 posted on 12/17/2011 6:21:52 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: PALIN SMITH
And Hildahoof responds:
21 posted on 12/17/2011 6:28:29 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: blackdog

islam fears the truth.

It’s Kryptonite to the koranimals.


22 posted on 12/17/2011 6:35:24 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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It’s a 20th century argument to a eight century opponent.

“Freedom of Speech” is not a good thing to Islamicists, it’s a bad bad thing.

Need to attack the religion itself.


23 posted on 12/17/2011 6:40:22 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: bayouranger

She’s Running !!!


24 posted on 12/17/2011 6:49:49 PM PST by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: al baby

She’s stampeding is more like it.

No F’en way. She’ll croak 1st.


25 posted on 12/17/2011 7:12:33 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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