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Federal judge: Iran shares responsibility for 9/11 terror attacks
DAILY CALLER ^ | Published: 2:26 PM 12/16/2011 | Kenneth Timmermen

Posted on 12/17/2011 5:59:21 PM PST by RaceBannon

NEW YORK — In an historic hearing in the federal courthouse in Manhattan on Thursday, U.S. District Court Judge George Daniels said he planned to issue a ruling in the coming days declaring that Iran shares in the responsibility for the 9/11 terror attacks.

“The extensive record submitted to this court, including fact witnesses and expert testimony, is satisfactory to this court,” Judge Daniels said. The court “accepts as true” the various allegations of the plaintiffs and their experts, he declared, and “will issue an order” in the coming days that Iran bears legal responsibility for providing “material support” to the 9/11 plotters and hijackers.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/16/federal-judge-iran-shares-responsibility-for-911-terror-attacks/#ixzz1gqZEJaC2


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200101; 911; 911commission; 911iran; aljihad; alqaeda; alqaedairan; alzawahiri; aymanalzawahiri; binladen; dogofislam; economy; egypt; egyptianislamicjihad; eij; hezbollah; iran; iran911; iranalqaeda; israel; jamaataljihad; mutthamed; nationalislamicfront; nif; shiite; sudan; war; witnessx; witnessy; witnessz; zawahiri
Family members of 9/11 victims who attended the open-court hearing broke into tears. They had nervously sat through a four-hour presentation by attorneys Thomas E. Mellon, Jr., and Timothy B. Fleming, consisting of evidence backing up their claims that Iran had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks and actively assisted the hijackers in planning, preparing, and executing their plan.

“My husband’s name is on that lawsuit,” said Fiona Havlish, the lead plaintiff in the case against Iran. Her spouse, Donald G. Havlish, Jr, perished on the 101st floor of the World Trade Center’s South Tower. “This is about my husband, all our husbands, our loved ones, our sons, our daughters.”

Ellen Saracini, whose husband, Victor Saracini, took off that morning at the controls of United Airlines Flight 175, called it “a historic day” because a U.S. court found that Iran was responsible for the attacks. “When I heard the verdict, I just smiled up to Victor and said, ‘we’re still thinking about you up there.’”

In presenting evidence gathered by the attorneys and their outside investigator, Timothy Fleming revealed tantalizing details of still-sealed videotaped depositions provided by three defectors from Iranian intelligence organizations.

One of those defectors was “physically present” when al-Qaida’s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, came to Iran in January 2001 for four days of intense closed-door meetings with the top leadership in Iran to discuss the impending attacks.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/16/federal-judge-iran-shares-responsibility-for-911-terror-attacks/#ixzz1gqZHu1nL

1 posted on 12/17/2011 5:59:34 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon

anybody surprised?


2 posted on 12/17/2011 6:09:44 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: RaceBannon

Good luck making it stick.


3 posted on 12/17/2011 6:12:35 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: RaceBannon

Koranimals helping koranimals kill Infidels?

Now that’s thin.....


4 posted on 12/17/2011 6:21:42 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: RaceBannon

good find bannon, CT dittos.


5 posted on 12/17/2011 6:23:16 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Anybody surprised?

Nope. Not one bit.


6 posted on 12/17/2011 6:24:04 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: RaceBannon

It’s taken 10 years to definitively tie Iran to this.


7 posted on 12/17/2011 6:28:24 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: txhurl

Bush should have gone with his gut feelings...


8 posted on 12/17/2011 6:50:10 PM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: himno hero

What’s the judge going to do in sentencing? Seize Iranian assets that left here years ago?

Put individual judgments on the 88 Mullahs that make up the Regime? Force Switzerland to freeze their accounts?


9 posted on 12/17/2011 7:00:12 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: RaceBannon

Ron Paul is deeply saddened and has filed this legal opinion away as proof that we make them hate us.


10 posted on 12/17/2011 7:04:28 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The hijackers were Saudi and Egyptian. Let’s blame everyone but the saudis and the Egyptians. Sheesh!


11 posted on 12/17/2011 7:37:58 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
anybody surprised?

No...

1992 - 1996 : (AFRICA : SUDAN : AT VARIOUS TIMES IN THIS PERIOD, AL QAEDA'S M M SALIM & AN UNIDENTIFIED IRANIAN CLERIC, TAKE PLACE IN KHARTOUM IN AN EFFORT TO FORM A TRIPARTITE AGREEMENT BETWEEN AQ, ELEMENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF IRAN & SUDAN'S NATIONAL ISLAMIC FRONT/NIF {See TURABI} TO WORK AGAINST THE USA, ISRAEL & OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES) -MSNBC

1992 : ( BIN LADEN, AL QEADA PROPOSAL TO HIZBALLAH {see IRAN} TO SET ASIDE DIFFERENCES AND FOCUS ON KILLING US TROOPS IN ASIA & AFRICA- SEE IRAN)

1992 : (THE FIRST MEETING BETWEEN THE IRAQI INTELLIGENCE SERVICE AND AL QAEDA IS BROKERED BY HASSAN AL-TURABI, LEADER OF SUDAN'S AL-QAEDA-AFFILIATED NATIONAL ISLAMIC FRONT; IRAQI INTELLIGENCE SERVICE DIRECTOR FARUQ HIJAZI AND SENIOR AL QAEDA LEADER AYMAN AL ZAWAHIRI WERE IN ATTENDANCE ---See IRAQ AL QAEDA/AL QAEDA IRAQ, 1992AQ) ------ "The U.S. government's secret memo detailing cooperation between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. ," by Stephen F. Hayes, 11/24/2003, the Weekly Standard, Volume 009, Issue 11

1998 : (SYRIA : MINISTER OF DEFENSE MUSTAPHA TLASS PUBLICLY ANNOUNCES THAT HE HAD ORDERED HEXBOLLAH AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO ATTACK THE US AND FRENCH BARRACKS IN BEIRUT, LEBANON IN THE 1980s) --------- "Syria – Al Qaida Connection," by Dr. J. R. Albani, Senior Official in the Guardians of the Cedars, Saturday, May 24, 2003 , http://www.free-lebanon.com/LFPNews/2003/May/connection/connection.html+%22Hamid%22+%22Afzal%22+pilot&hl=etn

JANUARY 2000 : (AFTER AL QAEDA'S USS THE SULLIVANS PLOT FAILS, SAIF AL ADEL GETS HELP FROM IRAN-BACKED HEZBOLLAH {see IMAD MUGNIYAH, LEBANON} IN PLOT TO ATTACK THE USS COLE IN ADEN HARBOR, YEMEN) ------- "U.S. checking whether Saudi bombings were planned in Iran," By JOHN WALCOTT, Knight Ridder Newspapers via The Mercury News, Posted on Wed, May. 14, 2003, http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/5861884.htm

2000 : (MALAYSIAN TERROR SUMMIT : 9/11 HIJACKERS KHALID ALMIDHAR & NAWAF ALHAZMI STAY AT THE RESIDENCE OF IRAN'S AMBASSADOR TO MALAYSIA, ACCORDING TO INTELLIGENCE UNCOVERED BY THE DIA--- also see IRAQI HIKMAT SHAKIR) ---------------------- "Bin Laden son, al Qaeda terrorists spotted in Iran," Washington Times, 2/15/03, Bill Gertz

MARCH 9, 2000 : (REPORT : AN UNLIKELY ALLIANCE OF IRAQIS, RUSSIAN MAFIA & IRANIAN REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS {200000IRAN} HAVE JOINED FORCES IN OIL SMUGGLING BIZ BENEFITING IRAQ)-----------Times of London 3/9/00 Richard Beeston James Bone Michael Theodoulou via "DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON : SECTION: MIDDLE EAST : SUBSECTION: IRAQ," Revised 1/8/01, AlamoGirl.com

MARCH 17, 2000 : (FROZEN IRANIAN ASSETS, ANTITERRORISM LAW ISSUE : SEC OF STATE ALBRIGHT SAYS ANTITERRORISM LAW WOULD RUIN CHANCES FOR DIALOGUE WITH IRAN; ANNOUNCES PARTIAL LIFTING OF THE BAN ON TRADE WITH IRAN) ----------"Clinton, Iran Plan Election-Eve Coup : Secret talks Aimed at Deal to Boost Gore Vote, Legacy," by Kenneth R. Timmerman, Western Journalism Center, via WorldNetDaily.com, Monday, September 25, 2000

JUNE 1, 2000 THU : (IRAN/IRAQ COOPERATION ON ANCTIONS-BUSTING -- OIL SMUGGLING "WAVE OF TANKERS" MAKING BREAK FROM IRAQ VIA IRAN?) on Thursday, a wave of oil-laden ships moved into Iranian waters in what one senior US official likened to a "jailbreak." ……"Dawn 6/7/00 Robin Wrightvia "DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON : SECTION: MIDDLE EAST : SUBSECTION: IRAQ," Revised 1/8/01, AlamoGirl.com

OCTOBER 2000 MID : (IRANIAN FOREIGN MIN KAMAL KHARZAI VISITS IRAQ; AGREEMENT WAS REACHED TO QUIT SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO UNDERMINE EACH OTHER'S REGIMES)-------------Middle East Newsline 10/19/00via "DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON : SECTION: MIDDLE EAST : SUBSECTION: IRAQ," Revised 1/8/01, AlamoGirl.com

OCTOBER 23, 2000 : (REPORT ON AL GORE SECRET 1995 AGREEMENT WITH RUSSIAN PM VIKTOR CHERNOMYRDIN WHICH EXEMPTED RUSSIA FROM US SANCTIONS ON ARMS DELIVERIES TO IRAN ) -------- Savannah Morning News 10/23/00 via ALAMO-GIRL'S DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON ; SECTION: BREACH OF TRUST; SUBSECTION: TERROR; Revised 1/8/01

12 posted on 12/17/2011 7:38:39 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Alamo-Girl

ping


13 posted on 12/17/2011 7:43:54 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: txhurl

I would hope they would call the repo man and repossess all te western technology in their possession, inclusive of the drones. Ash and cinders are alright as they are less effort to transport. The wind does just fine!


14 posted on 12/17/2011 7:50:42 PM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: RaceBannon
The Iran-9/11 Connection, Daily Beast via Yahoo ^ May 23, 2011 | Phillip Shenon Assuming the link still works
15 posted on 12/17/2011 7:59:49 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: TigersEye

The RONULANS are calling it a conspiracy

http://rt.com/news/iran-terrorism-guilty-911-023/


16 posted on 12/17/2011 8:06:57 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: piasa

http://www.iran911case.com/911-articles.html


17 posted on 12/17/2011 8:12:14 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

From http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2008&month=10

The Terror Connection

The simple facts regarding Iran are easy to understand. We are dealing with a regime that came to power in 1979, when the Iranian revolution overthrew the Shah. Immediately thereafter, Iran declared war against the United States, branding us “The Great Satan.” The Iranians have been at war against us for 30 years, and prior to 9/11 the Iranian regime was directly or indirectly responsible for the murder of more Americans than any other country or organization in the world. It also may well be that the Iranian regime was involved in 9/11. In this regard, I call your attention to one of the most forgotten documents in contemporary American history. In the fall of 1998, the American government indicted Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. There is a paragraph in the indictment that reads as follows:

Al Qaeda forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group, Hezbollah, for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States.

When you read the newspapers nowadays you find every now and then someone saying that there is no real evidence that Iran is supporting Al Qaeda. More often than not, this person immediately goes on to say that Iran would not ever support Al Qaeda because Iran is Shiite and Al Qaeda is Sunni. This is nonsense...

“Reprinted by permission from Imprimis, a publication of Hillsdale College.”

Read more at
http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2008&month=10


18 posted on 12/17/2011 8:19:52 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: RaceBannon

Does this mean we can nuke the Mullahs and the IRG off the face of the earth? If so, count me in.


19 posted on 12/17/2011 8:29:41 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: RaceBannon
"still-sealed videotaped depositions provided by three defectors from Iranian intelligence organizations"

oooh myyyyy.... how and when will these be made public?? They will be made public once a legal decision has been formally entered, I hope?? The judge wouldn't order the record sealed indefinitely, I hope???

This is such explosive info. I remember I wrote to a variety of journalists right on and after 9/11 saying "look hard at possible Iranian angles" but of course I had only intuitions to go on, along with Iran's horrendous record in previous years.
20 posted on 12/17/2011 8:46:13 PM PST by Enchante
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To: MurrietaMadman

Fox News video on the Iranian defectors and this legal case:

(May 21, 2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9DifRWP-2Q

[not a lot of info but interesting 3 min. segment]


21 posted on 12/17/2011 8:58:27 PM PST by Enchante
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To: RaceBannon
I don't buy this. Iran is Shia. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are Sunni. They hate each other. First, they used 911 to attack Afghanistan. Then they switched it to Iraq. Now I am supposed to believe it was Iran? Iran is against the Taliban as well and helps Karzai. Osama was found in Pakistan which gets aid.

I am tired of the lies from the rulers at Washington and the judges appointed by them.

22 posted on 12/17/2011 9:00:24 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: RaceBannon
Good grief! I was trying to be absurdly sarcastic.
But they actually believe it.

This is the age of the death of reason.

23 posted on 12/17/2011 9:00:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: JimWayne

I don’t know what the facts are in this regard and you don’t either. But your reaction strikes me as knee-jerk and premature. There are certainly plenty of cases of Iran working with Sunni groups (e.g., Hamas). We’ll have to see how the information develops but you don’t sound like you have any interest in the information.

It also need not turn out (I don’t know) that Iran was hand-in-glove with Al Qaeda all the way through. They may simply have provided some specific kinds of assistance (what has long been alleged such as easing travel of Al Qaeda operatives through Iran to Afghanistan etc.). It may or may not turn out to have been any direct planning role from Iran, but to rule it out without knowledge is unwise in light of Iran’s long history of terrorism operations.


24 posted on 12/17/2011 9:06:56 PM PST by Enchante
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To: All; piasa; Marine_Uncle; kcvl; SunkenCiv

I’ve only just found this website so I’ve only glanced at it so far, but it seems to have a lot of info about the legal case:

http://www.iran911case.com/


25 posted on 12/17/2011 9:09:44 PM PST by Enchante
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To: RaceBannon

So, will this be the premise and basis for jumping in to grab our missplaced drone and stir up the hornets?


26 posted on 12/17/2011 9:30:01 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: RaceBannon; TigersEye

Unreal!!! Intelligent, thoughtful, analytical people can distinguish between (1) seeking and analyzing the facts, and (2) then debating what (if anything) to do in response to what is learned.

Propagandists already have everything answered except how to assemble and distort new bits of “info” to create their next propaganda message. That is the modus operandus of the Paulistas, who do not even want to *know* what is not known if it would inconvenience their fixed-in-concrete assumptions.


27 posted on 12/17/2011 10:12:38 PM PST by Enchante
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To: RaceBannon

This judge’s credentials are as far left as you can get. This is no right wing conspiracy. Daniels clerked for Rose Bird and was nominated by Clinton.


28 posted on 12/17/2011 10:35:32 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
You're ruining a perfectly good conspiracy theory with facts.

Have you no shame, sir?

29 posted on 12/17/2011 10:47:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Enchante; RaceBannon

RE: “only just found this website so I’ve only glanced at it so far, but it seems to have a lot of info about the legal case: (URL name).”
Thanks Enchante for the ping, thanks Race for the post. Tis late at my end. But I will check out the URL. And I am glad to see how E corrected one poster in that the Shiite dominated Iranian goons often totally support some Sunni based terrorist groups. IMHO the ruling Mullah so called religious leaders, yea.... Satan’s disciples in disguise who perhaps actually think they are against Satan, the real one, have enslaved the Persian peoples with their religious henchmen organizations such as the Kuds Force to name but one. I have been watching quite a few recent town halls by some of the Repub candidates to run against the American Mullah Supreme leader. I’m a bit tired. But I will give the web site a shot. Do both have a great upcoming day.
George


30 posted on 12/17/2011 11:22:36 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Enchante

I decided I should book mark your reference and place it into my Able Danger folder. It needs my clearer head reading at a later date. Thanks E.


31 posted on 12/17/2011 11:31:14 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Enchante

Getting past the profanity, I thought some of the comments were interesting, too.


32 posted on 12/17/2011 11:37:41 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: RaceBannon

Per your thread of #16 referencing a given URL. Dear Lord. What total bull shit. And I know you feel the same way.


33 posted on 12/17/2011 11:37:43 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Tzimisce

Make even tougherer sanctions. The toughestest sanctions ever made. That’ll show them.


34 posted on 12/18/2011 12:12:37 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: RaceBannon
Great.

Propaganda for the war with Iran.

35 posted on 12/18/2011 6:00:59 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

That’s true, I do! LOL!


36 posted on 12/18/2011 6:27:49 AM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Domestic Church

I can think of a few mroe reasons to do it... :)


37 posted on 12/18/2011 6:29:18 AM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon

Good thing we have “Federal judges” to tell us things like this. I sure fell better.


38 posted on 12/18/2011 7:20:32 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: RaceBannon

Prelude to war with Iran?


39 posted on 12/18/2011 8:05:52 AM PST by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: RaceBannon

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40 posted on 12/18/2011 8:16:56 AM PST by PMAS
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To: Enchante; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Enchante.


41 posted on 12/18/2011 4:06:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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