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Voter fraud is real: And voter ID laws are really needed; they are not racist
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 12-18-11 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 12/18/2011 8:23:22 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

The state chairman of Indiana's Democratic Party resigned Monday as a probe of election fraud in the 2008 Democratic presidential primary widened.

State law requires a presidential candidate to gather 500 valid signatures in each county to qualify for the ballot. Barack Obama may not have met it. Investigators think 150 of the 534 signatures the Obama campaign turned in for St. Joseph County may have been forged.

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Former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, who is black, said vote fraud is rampant in African-American districts like his in Alabama.

"The most aggressive contemporary voter suppression in the African-American community is the wholesale manufacture of ballots at the polls and absentee, in parts of the Black Belt," Mr. Davis said. "Voting the names of the dead, and the nonexistent, and the too mentally impaired to function cancels out the votes of citizens who are exercising their rights."

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"Concerns about voter identification laws affecting turnout are much ado about nothing," concluded researchers at the universities of Delaware and Nebraska after examining election data from 2000 through 2006.

~snip~

This year there have been investigations, indictments or convictions for vote fraud in California, Texas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina and Maryland. In all but one case, the alleged fraudsters were Democrats.

~snip~

Fraud of the magnitude which swings elections typically combines absentee ballot fraud and voter registration fraud. At least 55 employees or associates of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now have been convicted of registration fraud in 11 states, says Matthew Vadum of the Capital Research Center, who's written a book about ACORN.

Of 1.3 million new registrations ACORN turned in in 2008, election officials rejected 400,000.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: acorn; aliens; fraud; holder; lbj
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1 posted on 12/18/2011 8:23:26 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Voter fraud is real and we will see it in all it’s glory unless we give them a landslide


2 posted on 12/18/2011 8:26:03 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Bump


3 posted on 12/18/2011 8:26:42 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If voter fraud wasn’t real, Holder and his people wouldn’t be working so hard trying to keep the Republicans from stopping it.


4 posted on 12/18/2011 8:29:09 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
from the article:

At least 55 employees or associates of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now have been convicted of registration fraud in 11 states, says Matthew Vadum of the Capital Research Center, who's written a book about ACORN.

Of 1.3 million new registrations ACORN turned in in 2008, election officials rejected 400,000.

read more at link in post.

5 posted on 12/18/2011 8:30:41 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

save


6 posted on 12/18/2011 8:31:25 AM PST by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

You know what would be real nice...if we could resolve issues like this once in for all.
Instead, 10 years from now I am certain I will be reading a simular article.
I will get Newt on it right away.


7 posted on 12/18/2011 8:31:50 AM PST by Leep
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Hey, the libs tell me that voter fraud is as rare as Harry Reid's millionaire job creators. They're unicorns, they don't exist.

Good enough for me.

Actually, this issue ticks me off like almost no other, because it points out the cowardice, stupidity, spinelessness of elected Republicans. Here in Michigan, the GOP has lost US Senate + Congressional seats, they've lost who knows how many other elections due to fraud.

Yet, they do nothing. They refuse to defend their OWN political interests. How pitiful can you get? It can't get more pitiful than refusing to defend yourself. See Dubya for a master of this kind of pusillanimity.

If a politician refuses to defend himself, he ain't gonna defend me. So, why is heck should I vote for such a spineless blob? It's insanity.

8 posted on 12/18/2011 8:33:58 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Gotta concentrate on those Secretary of state elections.

We elected a top notch election fraud fighter here in Michigan. In 04 as a county commissioner she raised the alarm over some 30,000 fraudulent voter registrations in her county. In 2010 she fought the fraud against herself and won the SOS race.


9 posted on 12/18/2011 8:36:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Vote fraud should be treated as the treasonous act it is, a direct attack on the foundations of this formerly great nation. It should be punished accordingly with life in prison or death.

That MIGHT curb some of it...


10 posted on 12/18/2011 8:36:41 AM PST by piytar (The Obama Depression. Say it early, say it often. Why? Because it's TRUE.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Anyone claiming photo ID for voting is "racist" or "discriminates against minorities" has to declare that all air travel (or other forms of public transportation, for that matter) is "racist" and intends to "prohibit public transportation for minorities."

As most thinking people will admit, this clam is total nonsense and not worth even a conversation.

11 posted on 12/18/2011 8:36:41 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

obama is counting on massive voter fraud along with the black racist vote to stay in office. Oh yeah, the republicans are very prone to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


12 posted on 12/18/2011 8:37:56 AM PST by jesseam
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Voter fraud gave us King Obama and the loss of freedom continues. America may never recover until we get a leader who will force, yes I said force, a safer and just way of voting. Too bad it has to be that way, but with the huge group of Americans that are communists is growing we will never solve the problem.
13 posted on 12/18/2011 8:41:52 AM PST by Logical me
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yeah ...

Especially Philly, they’re all in on it down there.


14 posted on 12/18/2011 8:43:03 AM PST by Kenny
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Worth repeating:

In all but one case, the alleged fraudsters were Democrats.

15 posted on 12/18/2011 8:43:21 AM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: zerosix

And, BTW, come to think of it, how do “Motor Voter Law” registrants even GET registered to vote w/o SOME sort of ID?

Do they get registered just because they CLAIM to be here legally???????

What is the 50 different sets of criteria for registration????


16 posted on 12/18/2011 8:43:39 AM PST by CanuckYank
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To: afraidfortherepublic

For democrat voters, would an ID picture of their tombstone suffice?


17 posted on 12/18/2011 8:44:58 AM PST by Joe Bfstplk (People should enjoy the fruits of their labor. No labor, no fruit.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

See tag line below.


18 posted on 12/18/2011 8:45:47 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: CanuckYank

I don’t know about the other 47 states, but AL, GA, and FL all require a birth certificate and social security card along with proof of residency.


19 posted on 12/18/2011 8:48:14 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Using the race card as a means to silence non-minorities and prevent them from defending their rights against disenfranchisement by voter fraud is the height of racism.


20 posted on 12/18/2011 8:48:45 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: afraidfortherepublic

No surprise that the overwhelming majority of proven voter fraud cases have been in Dim precincts. I wonder how much voter fraud took place in Florida during the 2000 presidential election?

The Minnesota senate race that put the comedian in the US senate?


21 posted on 12/18/2011 8:51:25 AM PST by Will88
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Voter fraud is real and flourishing for decades, more so today than ever before. Several years ago, a friend of mine from the Chicago area recounted how he was home from college and ran into a HS acquaintance who bragged he had voted 19 times for Kennedy back in 1960. It's the Chicago way.
22 posted on 12/18/2011 8:58:01 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: zerosix

In most states there are laws requiring everyone to have id just to be in the state.

Can you get welfare with out id? No
Can you get medicare with out id? No
Can you cash a check with out id? No
Can you open a bank account with out id? No

The list could go on and on..

No id, no vote. It’s not racist because EVERYONE has to have id.


23 posted on 12/18/2011 8:58:09 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If voter ID’s discriminate against the poor who can’t afford the ID’s then how do they identify thmeselves to the Department of Welfare Graft?


24 posted on 12/18/2011 8:58:21 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: piytar
It should be punished accordingly with life in prison or death.

Amen, although killing them probably will not deter them from voting.

25 posted on 12/18/2011 8:58:41 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree ("Nanny Care State" is not a Division 3 football powerhouse.)
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To: Leep

If Newt guarantees that he will repeal Obamacare and to once and for all handle voter fraud, I’ll vote for him all day long!


26 posted on 12/18/2011 8:59:05 AM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: CanuckYank

In Minnesota a bill with your address is all you need. or.. get this.. Someone that lives near you can “vouch” for you.

Oh ya, no chance of fraud there. /s


27 posted on 12/18/2011 9:00:45 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: Jabba the Nutt
If a politician refuses to defend himself, he ain't gonna defend me. So, why is heck should I vote for such a s pineless blob? It'ss insanity. ///
short / concise. ;-)

28 posted on 12/18/2011 9:00:51 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Democratic Party strongly supports the Civil Rights of Necro-Americans!


29 posted on 12/18/2011 9:01:56 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: cableguymn

My wife ordered a Christmas gift for one of the grandkids and used Walmart’s “ship to store” service to avoid paying shipping costs. When she went to pick up the gift, she needed the email that Walmart had sent, plus a picture ID. For a freaking Lego toy! But someone should be allowed to vote just by dropping in at the polls without any ID whatsoever?


30 posted on 12/18/2011 9:02:41 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree ("Nanny Care State" is not a Division 3 football powerhouse.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Get used to it, Obama’s whole re-election strategy is to “scream racism” whenever he gets criticized. Simple, but effective.

It takes guts to stand up to that kind of intimidation, and not many politicians have it.


31 posted on 12/18/2011 9:03:00 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: afraidfortherepublic

http://newsok.com/air-of-desperation-in-democrats-attempts-to-roll-back-voter-laws/article/3631452


32 posted on 12/18/2011 9:06:21 AM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Normally they also require the CC you ordered the item with as well. You got off easy. ;)


33 posted on 12/18/2011 9:06:45 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: zerosix
You better read that "clam" again....

There might be a pearl in it.

34 posted on 12/18/2011 9:11:25 AM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Allowing voter fraud has consequences...


35 posted on 12/18/2011 9:12:30 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
So that's where that phrase came from....

Whistling past the graveyard!!

That's just Dims whistling up votes!!

LOL!!!

"Bring out your DEAD!! We need votes!!"

36 posted on 12/18/2011 9:15:52 AM PST by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: canuck_conservative
The best defense to that kind of attempted intimidation is to label them before they label you. We live in a sound-bite society and one in which propaganda is effective and ubiquitous. You can't deal with that by responding with dispassionate professorial diatribes.
37 posted on 12/18/2011 9:16:28 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Fraud of the magnitude which swings elections typically combines absentee ballot fraud and voter registration fraud.

Not to worry -- Holder will take care of the voter registration fraud problem. Everybody in the country will automatically be registered.

38 posted on 12/18/2011 9:17:07 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: zerosix

An article yesterday pointed out the ridiculous hypocrisy of these arguments by pointing out that most union elections require that you present your ID. If it’s good enough for the union, then it should be good enough for our states and nation.


39 posted on 12/18/2011 9:21:02 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: afraidfortherepublic

make the voting machine work by reading your finger print...you give it the registrar when you register, then when you vote the voting machine reads your prints...it would only let one vote once no pictures no cards if you don’t register you don’t vote


40 posted on 12/18/2011 9:23:51 AM PST by jrd
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If the intent was to really eliminate as much voter fraud as possible, this country would take a year or two and re-register every single voter, requiring proof of citizenship and approved voter ID, among other things.

That would be the best way to purge the voter roles of the dead and the otherwise ineligible.


41 posted on 12/18/2011 9:35:56 AM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

And as far as re-registration goes, it’s not at all unreasonable. We have to renew our auto tags, our driver’s licenses, our insurance policies and other necessary things. And part of those renewals is to reestablish eligibility, or fitness to have those privileges and insurance coverages.

Voters should have to re-register ever five to ten years just to keep the voter roles cleaner.


42 posted on 12/18/2011 9:39:58 AM PST by Will88
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Voter fraud is the cornerstone of the democrat party.

Hence the histrionics.


43 posted on 12/18/2011 9:42:56 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

“We live in a sound-bite society and one in which propaganda is effective and ubiquitous.”

I see where their dishonesty can only be countered by being brutally honest or un-PC. I have no problem with that and I’ll make sure to engage in it as often as I possibly can.


44 posted on 12/18/2011 9:57:46 AM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Absentee ballots must be addressed if we are to slow voter fraud down. My idea is to make each registered voter who wants to have an absentee ballot put his fingerprints on record at the registrars office and then the envelope that the ballot is mailed back in must have a set of fingerprints, which will be checked before the ballot is counted.

Also, laws should be passed disallowing ballots to suddenly be found. If they were not counted in the first count they shouldn't be used in the recount. We all know the "found" ballots are fake. Laws that void a precincts votes when the votes total higher than the number of registered voters would be another good idea. I am sure there are many other ways to cheat but these would be a good start along with requiring Voter ID in all states.

45 posted on 12/18/2011 10:07:00 AM PST by calex59
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To: jrd

“Use fingerprints”....riiiiggghhhttt! I can think of nothing more discriminatory against minorities than fingerprints.


46 posted on 12/18/2011 10:15:40 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Every one should have a voter ID card like a credit card and a national database of registered voters. System just
accurate as credit card purchases. You insert the card into machine and get one ballot to mark and drop in ballot box. Modern technology makes possible 100% accuracy. Outlaw absentee voting. Polls open for 72hours. Outlaw counting ballots until polls are closed to prevent news media from trying to influence vote before polls close. Outlaw exit polling. Make vote fraud impossible. Registration and issuance of voter ID card must be completed 30 days before election Democracy presupposes honest elections.


47 posted on 12/18/2011 10:27:06 AM PST by tommix2
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To: afraidfortherepublic
from old beer jingle

I'm from Wisconsin
and I ought to know
there's Dem-inspired vote fraud
wherever they go

48 posted on 12/18/2011 10:44:04 AM PST by driftless2
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To: calex59

You guys are pikers. Oregon has mail in ballots only, no chance of fraud here.

The Republicans that show any interest in curtailing fraud are able to hide behind Courts that tell them how discriminatory voter IDs are.

There are only two possible explainations, the republicans are too stupid to recognize the problem, or they are content to manage their minority position.

Personally I find it hard to believe that they could possibly be that stupid.


49 posted on 12/18/2011 10:59:22 AM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out! Especially the Frugal Socialists who call themselves Republicans.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Look at the crap the black “teachers” pulled here in Atlanta
They had test changing parties!

There is something seriously wrong with the “black community”. This fraud ultimately hurts them as much as everyone else.


50 posted on 12/18/2011 11:01:26 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Coffee for your TEA party (www.dougsmugs.com))
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