Skip to comments.Real Clear Politics again shows its bias toward Romney
Posted on 12/18/2011 2:29:14 PM PST by Future Useless Eater
Polling Data on December 18, 2011 Poll Date Sample Gingr. Romney Paul Bachmn. Perry Santm. Hunts. Spread RCP Average 12/07 - 12/17 -- 30.5 22.5 9.8 8.0 7.0 3.5 3.0 Gingrich +8.0 Gallup Tracking 12/12 - 12/17 1000 RV 28 24 10 7 6 4 2 Gingrich +4 Reuters/Ipsos 12/08 - 12/12 443 RV 28 18 12 10 12 4 5 Gingrich +10 Associated Press/GfK 12/08 - 12/12 460 A 33 27 9 9 6 3 2 Gingrich +6 Pew Research 12/07 - 12/11 504 RV 33 21 8 6 4 3 3 Gingrich +12
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but notice the DATES of one they deliberately EXCLUDED... NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 12/07 - 12/11 271 RV 40 23 9 8 6 3 5 Gingrich +17
Karl Rove's favorite polling-analyst organization: Real Clear Politics (of Chicago) has again demonstrated its bias in favor of Mitt Romney.
By doing this RCP 'sleight of math', they can now report an average, and a trend chart that more closely agrees with the MSM and Karl Rove talking points, that Gingrich is falling fast and Romney is on course to take the lead.
"Governing & Political Change" held in St. Paul Minnesota, September 3, 2008Bachmann: The question is on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the outrage and will it go private? or where are Fannie Mae and Feddie Mac going to go? Gingrich: Well, I think this is one of the great tests of reform- of a populist reform conservatism. There is ZERO reasons to bail out these two institutions. They have violated the fundamental principle of why they were created. And I did a fair amount of-... Let me be right up front... I did a fair amount of work with Freddie Mac, looking at it, consulting it, but not at a fiduciary level, but at a general public policy level. I am appalled at the degree of management irresponsibility that both places have had, and I think they should be treated precisely like a private sector institution, And the stockholders, and the senior management should fundamentally have to bear the brunt... I don't think you want to let them go broke, because they're enormous, and that has a BIG second and third order consequence on the system. But I think what you want to say, is as a consequence of their survival, they should be broken up, they should go thru the equivalent of a receivership, and everybody who was profiting from them should pay the cost of having failed. And the general taxpayer should NOT bear that burden. and I think that could be handled totally different. But there is ZERO reason, now that they've failed... I was perfectly happy to to not PUSH the issue, as long as they weren't failing, but NOW that they've clearly failed their fiduciary responsibility, there is zero reason for the average taxpayer to bail out these institutions. And their senior managements have been DISGRACEFUL in the mismanagement, particularly I think, of Fannie Mae which had huge, huge, internal problems in terms of accounting, in a way you can't quite understand,,, How could people run an institution THAT badly?
The country clubbers have closed ranks around Mittens. No surprise there.
If I were Gingrich I would make a pledge that if elected I will never play golf.
Here's a few:
|RCP Average||12/7 - 12/17||--||30.5||22.5||9.8||8.0||7.0||3.5||3.0||--||Gingrich +8.0|
|Gallup Tracking||12/12 - 12/17||1000 RV||28||24||10||7||6||4||2||--||Gingrich +4|
|Reuters/Ipsos||12/8 - 12/12||443 RV||28||18||12||10||12||4||5||--||Gingrich +10|
|Associated Press/GfK||12/8 - 12/12||460 A||33||27||9||9||6||3||2||--||Gingrich +6|
|Pew Research||12/7 - 12/11||504 RV||33||21||8||6||4||3||3||--||Gingrich +12|
|Gallup||12/7 - 12/11||1000 LV||33||23||8||6||6||3||2||--||Gingrich +10|
|NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl||12/7 - 12/11||271 RV||40||23||9||8||6||3||5||--||Gingrich +17|
|FOX News||12/5 - 12/7||356 RV||36||23||12||5||8||4||2||--||Gingrich +13|
|Rasmussen Reports||11/30 - 11/30||1000 LV||38||17||8||4||4||4||3||8||Gingrich +21|
|CNN/Opinion Research||11/18 - 11/20||402 A||24||20||9||5||11||4||3||17||Gingrich +4|
|Quinnipiac||11/14 - 11/20||1039 RV||26||22||6||4||6||2||2||14||Gingrich +4|
|USA Today/Gallup||11/13 - 11/17||946 RV||22||21||9||4||8||1||1||16||Gingrich +1|
But, but, but Michele Bachmann said Newt supported Freddie and Fannie.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. That’s what I’m talkin’ about. Absolute absolution.
Your post needs a thread of its own.
maybe the ridiculously small sample size made it suspect.
Good! Romney’s the man!
| To Michele Bachmann:
I like you. I like you a lot.
But you have been a U.S. Representative in Congress, representing a small portion of Minnesota, for less than five years, since January 2007.
That's still a little light on experience for running for President. But you're still young and you could be a stronger candidate in the future. Please keep up your good work!!
In 2008, you were apparently friends with Newt Gingrich, and you apparently invited him onto that same stage with you in Saint Paul. And you appeared to beam, and smile in approval as Newt blasted Fannie and Freddie.
So PLEASE tone down your current rhetoric against Newt, and please do not forget Romney is an abortionist, and an ObamneyCare and Gay Marriage advocate.
"We" who support Tea Party principles MIGHT want you on Newt's ticket for VP. And then, after eight years in Newt's administration, you could be ready to take over the reins, and continue after Newt demolishes and reverses this incredible Obama nightmare.
Newt’s consistency looks a lot better now.
If you hit the scroll button, say, 2 or 3 times, the entire list is displayed under the graph. The poll you claim has been excluded is shown right where it should be. The averages for Gingrich and Romney in the headline are exactly the same as their averages in the second listing.
RCP did not eliminate -- repeat: did not eliminate -- the poll you mentioned. RCP clearly shows an 8 point lead for Gingrich. Tell me, what possible reason would they have to exclude a poll showing a lead for Gingrich, but still show the average of all the polls as a, um, lead for Gingrich?
You are descending into the fever swamps that almost devoured the Palin supporters before she withdrew. To paraphrase an old favorite: You're lookin' for hate in all the wrong places.
Bachmann KNEW this and still went rabid on Newt? she is even lower in my eyes than before...
Amen.....come back Michele after you have been a Governor.
If you hit the scroll button, say, 2 or 3 times, the entire list is displayed under the graph. The poll you claim has been excluded is shown right where it should be.
I am well aware of how that works. I don't have to scroll down like you suggest, because that shows me all the OLDER polls that the are NOT including in the current "RCP Average" RCP is fudging their math to make Romney look better in the current "average". I never said they are putting him in the lead.
By the way, I see from your profile you would like to change your FR name someday. Just ask Jim Robinson to do so and he can do it, and you won't lose your continuity to all your existing posts. ...other than that, your posting history looks like you do a lot of heckling on Gingrich threads, so please do not address or reply to me again.
Put down the crack pipe.
Great find—even more so, when you realize this was almost two weeks before the US financial house starting collapsing in Sept. 2008.
Great findeven more so, when you realize this was almost two weeks before the US financial house starting collapsing in Sept. 2008.
Excellent point, I missed that.
In 2007, when he was still working for Fannie and Freddie, Gingrich talked up their virtues.
In 2008, when his contracts with Fannie and Freddie ran out, Gingrich bad mouthed them.
And you are using this as something to admire Gingrich for?
Gingrich was a contracted consultant for Fannie/Freddie.
He did not work for them ever. He was never on their payroll. The contract was similar to every contract that Gingrich Group had. The amount was similar, 200 grand, and the product purchased was the same.
For a speaking engagement, the Gingrich Group charged in the neighborhood of 60 grand.