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Teenagers who found girl, 5, sleeping in abandoned stolen car are arrested THEMSELVES...
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 18th December 2011

Posted on 12/18/2011 5:42:36 PM PST by naturalman1975

Two teenagers who spotted a five-year-old girl sleeping in a stolen car have told how they were arrested for 'doing the right thing' when they called police.

Tyler Thompson and Connor Roderick were held in custody for four hours and had their DNA and fingerprints taken.

Their clothes were also kept by police following the incident in St Helen Auckland, near Bishop Auckland, County Durham.

Now Tyler,16, and 18-year-old Connor plan to submit a complaint to the authorities about their treatment.

The teenagers were on their way to a shop to buy milk at about 10.15pm nine days ago when they found the abandoned red Skoda Fabia with its engine running.

It had been stolen from outside the Royal Chef Chinese takeaway in nearby Manor Road.

The driver had left his keys in the ignition while he went in to place an order and three youths were spotted driving the car away shortly after 10pm.

The friends recognised the car and while Connor ran to find the owner, Tyler spotted the young girl on the back seat and guarded the vehicle.

Connor then brought the police and the girl's father to the car where officers arrested them.

'We couldn't believe what was happening,' said Tyler. 'We hadn't done anything wrong. We thought we were doing the right thing but the police just didn't believe us. We were gutted.

'If we had left that car, I never would have been able to forgive myself if something had happened to that girl.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: assumedmolesters; consequences; donutwatch; feminism; men; ungland
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1 posted on 12/18/2011 5:42:39 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

No good deed goes unpunished


2 posted on 12/18/2011 5:46:59 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: naturalman1975

I can appreciate the cops questioning them to ensure they weren’t child molesters or kidnappers or something, but to arrest them is only going to cause many people to walk away from such situations and some kids will die as a result.


3 posted on 12/18/2011 5:47:15 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: naturalman1975

I hope they don’t get life.


4 posted on 12/18/2011 5:47:36 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: naturalman1975

Way to go - a twofer; teach the citizenry never to encroach on the sacred ground of the police and turn two teenagers into cop haters.


5 posted on 12/18/2011 5:49:25 PM PST by Truth29
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To: naturalman1975

My late Father’s old pickup truck was stolen out of his yard. The house was not occupied but it was kept up and any time some of our family visited, they would stay there.

I reported it stolen and a deputy came by. He kept acting a bit weird and asked me for my drivers license among other odd requests.

I almost just asked him what the hell was going on but didn’t say anything. Nothing more happened and it was never found but it did irritate the heck out of me.


6 posted on 12/18/2011 5:50:13 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Jonty30

Yes, I can’t see why the police needed to do more than take their names so if they needed to follow things up later, they could.


7 posted on 12/18/2011 5:52:46 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Alternate scenario, but not quite as strange.

Perps: “Well officer, we stole this car and abducted this little girl, so we called you up to show you where the car and the girl are.”

Cops: “Ok, just don’t do that any more, please. Now go away.”


8 posted on 12/18/2011 5:55:40 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: yarddog

The cop was an idiot.


9 posted on 12/18/2011 5:57:19 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: naturalman1975

Cops winning new supporters /s


10 posted on 12/18/2011 5:58:30 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: naturalman1975
We were gutted.

Where I come from if you are "gutted" you can't talk about it.

11 posted on 12/18/2011 5:58:52 PM PST by Graybeard58 (No Obama, No Romney, No Paul, No Huntsman. We can do better than that!)
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To: naturalman1975

They are way to non-minority looking to think they can get away without getting arrested.


12 posted on 12/18/2011 5:59:38 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

That is probably the best explanation.

It was clear he suspected me of something but no scenario I could think of would have had me do something illegal then report Daddy’s pickup stolen.


13 posted on 12/18/2011 6:01:10 PM PST by yarddog
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To: naturalman1975

From this article, it sounds reasonable. Three kids stole the car, and two kids help return it (and the girl, of course!). I can see the cops thinking they were part of the original three—maybe the two with consciences.


14 posted on 12/18/2011 6:05:50 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Right Wing Assault

That’s always a possible scenario. One of the first things they teach at cop school is that anybody is capable of anything.

However, it wouldn’t have been necessary to arrest them, at this point. If the police had gotten the young men’s vitals at that point, the police could have let them go and picked them up later if it was warranted.


15 posted on 12/18/2011 6:06:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: naturalman1975

We had an incident in N.C. when a hunter found a body. They police detained him, told his wife he was having an affair,and told his employer he was a person of interest in a murder investigation. Never talk to the police.


16 posted on 12/18/2011 6:07:42 PM PST by rsobin
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To: naturalman1975
Ungland...
17 posted on 12/18/2011 6:11:23 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: yarddog
Saturday morning, I got a call that someone was at a commercial property that my sibs and I own. I load up and head out to check it out since I live closest.

Right before I got to the property, I saw a cop shooting radar, pulled up next to him and told him the story. I said that I would appreciate him going with me, so I could leave my pistol in the console, since he was wearing body armor, and I had a hangover.

He got there before I did.

We inspected and a few calls later, we figured out it was the former renter getting property out of the parking lot.

He never asked me ID (I did have keys) or said much of anything, but he let me go first into every room in the office area. ;)

I was glad he was there.

/johnny

18 posted on 12/18/2011 6:13:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: naturalman1975

Many thanks to the UK police state /s


19 posted on 12/18/2011 6:18:26 PM PST by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Jonty30
"However, it wouldn’t have been necessary to arrest them, at this point. If the police had gotten the young men’s vitals at that point, the police could have let them go and picked them up later if it was warranted."

The police collected their fingerprints and DNA. The Brits have been on a tear for a universal database and maybe they used this as a pretext for mandatory collection.

20 posted on 12/18/2011 6:19:02 PM PST by Truth29
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

CWHUP = Coppering with Head Up A**.


21 posted on 12/18/2011 6:20:51 PM PST by healy61
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To: JRandomFreeper

I had two large metal safes at the same house tho they were kept in the nearby outbuilding. I noticed them stolen and it would have taken at least two people a lot of time to have moved them.

When I reported it the deputy came out, took my information and said they would all keep an eye out for then as they were unusual looking. This one was friendly and simply took what info I gave him. He never even hinted at wanting to see my drivers license etc.


22 posted on 12/18/2011 6:21:41 PM PST by yarddog
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To: naturalman1975
"The teenagers were on their way to a shop to buy milk at about 10.15pm"

...ooookay....

23 posted on 12/18/2011 6:22:04 PM PST by moehoward
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To: yarddog
We're dealing with estate properties as well. Mom passed in September, and Sis is in the primary estate house. I'm in a former rent house to keep those 2 from getting copper stripped. We're hoping to get the commercial property rented soon, so it's occupied.

/johnny

24 posted on 12/18/2011 6:25:35 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
That's the sad part. Even if the cops were following procedure, they could have explained it, instead of treating the kids like they were felons.

A little good PR would go far.

/johnny

25 posted on 12/18/2011 6:27:35 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: naturalman1975

That’s not right.


26 posted on 12/18/2011 6:30:40 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Truth29

That’s certainly possible. I know Britainisn’t as freedom minded as Canada or the US.


27 posted on 12/18/2011 6:30:52 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We went ahead and sold Mother and Daddy’s old place. It was sold at a pretty big amount under it’s normal value as the market is dead right now.

We were probably lucky to sell it at all right now but a guy made us an offer which was ridiculously low we countered with an amount which was still way below normal value but we wanted to go ahead and get if sold.


28 posted on 12/18/2011 6:31:24 PM PST by yarddog
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To: moehoward
Yeah sounds really suspicious to me too. No school age kids would EVER be sent down to the corner store by mom to get milk at 10pm. Much more likely they would get up extra early to go get it in order to have breakfast before school. /s
29 posted on 12/18/2011 6:53:22 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Jonty30

“That’s always a possible scenario. One of the first things they teach at cop school is that anybody is capable of anything.”

I would have thought the next thing they teach is to question the victims. Like the five year old? “Did these two boys kidnap you?”


30 posted on 12/18/2011 6:56:02 PM PST by Morgana (Rent this Space....Cheap)
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To: Rastus

****From this article, it sounds reasonable.****

Reasonable is the cops get their address, contact information and let them go. If these kids were involved and had a change in heart, how does treating them like criminals get them any closer to the instigators? If they were part of the gang that was at fault and turned them in, both excoriate and praise them in public.

This country has stood against much worse and used both hands to deal its way through.


31 posted on 12/18/2011 7:01:13 PM PST by ResponseAbility (Islam...Imperialism in a turban.)
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To: naturalman1975
We were gutted

Seems pretty harsh.

32 posted on 12/18/2011 7:05:20 PM PST by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: naturalman1975
Cops don't care if the people they convict are actually guilty. A conviction is a conviction, and it shows up as a gold star on their record.

That's why you should NEVER TALK TO POLICE.

33 posted on 12/18/2011 7:06:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
By any chance did you mean this link? Never talk to the police! (48 mins long, but well worth it)
34 posted on 12/18/2011 7:18:31 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: moehoward

More like, “Crickey, mate! There’s a baby in this car! All of a sudden, we’re in deeper schmidt than just GTA.

(Waiting for anglophiles to tell me about my mix.)


35 posted on 12/18/2011 7:18:49 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Jonty30
One of the first things they teach at cop school is that anybody is capable of anything.

Well then the two cops should have arrested each other. Can't be too careful, you know. Furthermore, anybody is capable of anything.

36 posted on 12/18/2011 7:19:55 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: 70times7

Please note the article dated the 18th said the incident happened 9 days earlier which would have been a Friday the 9th. When I was 16 or 18 I could go to the store at 2 am. In this small village in England on a Friday night, if the store is open, it seemed reasonable for older teenagers to go to get milk at 10PM.


37 posted on 12/18/2011 7:21:41 PM PST by Ecliptic
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To: coloradan

They are taught that, so they don’t overlook possibilities, people who don’t fit the part, despite the evidence, like kindly grandmothers or women with angelic dispositions.


38 posted on 12/18/2011 7:43:39 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: rsobin
Never talk to the police.

Sadly, true. I will never call the police or speak to an officer without an attorney present. No matter what. There is no point in reporting a crime any more in most cities in the US. The police will just harass you and cause you grief and make no attempt whatsoever to apprehend the perpetrator. A stolen car might be an exception for liability reasons but I do not own a car.

39 posted on 12/18/2011 7:54:44 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: naturalman1975

The story doesn’t make it clear who the girl was - the daughter of the man who owned the car, of the thieves, of someone they fenced the car to...


40 posted on 12/18/2011 7:58:17 PM PST by heartwood
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To: JRandomFreeper

You are spot on.Arrogance also plays a major part in their decision making.


41 posted on 12/18/2011 8:12:49 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Just recently a man was sentenced to 3 yrs in jail for
possesing a weapon

Had found a sawed off shotgun in his year where had been
tossed by criminals

Took it to police station and was arrested for possesing a
weapon ....

Judge said didnt matter wasn’t his .......


42 posted on 12/18/2011 8:25:59 PM PST by njslim
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Cops don't care if the people they convict are actually guilty. A conviction is a conviction, and it shows up as a gold star on their record.

True, but even more true for prosectors.

43 posted on 12/18/2011 8:51:54 PM PST by expat1000
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To: njslim

And where did this supposedly happen?


44 posted on 12/18/2011 9:02:48 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Sorry about your Mom.

May God bless and hold her in His arms


45 posted on 12/18/2011 9:15:32 PM PST by Steve Newton
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To: Ecliptic
/s is "sideways" HTML; it means the sarcasm was switched back off at the end of the statement.
46 posted on 12/18/2011 9:23:03 PM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: naturalman1975

I seem to recall that sawed-off shotgun thing to. But I think it was in England as well.


47 posted on 12/18/2011 9:39:00 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: njslim

Paul Clarke, 2009.

He was found guilty and given a 1 yr suspended sentence. The case caused anger here because the prosecution and judge chose to follow the strict letter of the law. Instead of actual Home Office guidelines which state that no civilian who tries to hand it in should be considered having ‘possessed’ the weapon.

The problem was that Clarke rather stupidly didnt call the police straight away, but set up a later meeting with a policeman he knew THEN handed it over. Therefore he was deemed to have ‘possessed’ the weapon and failed to immediately hand the weapon over to police.


48 posted on 12/18/2011 10:14:19 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: 21twelve

My point is that I think I know what case he is talking about, and he’s remembering it wrongly and also doesn’t seem to be aware of all the facts. The man was not given a three year sentence, but a one year suspended sentence and if it hadn’t already been a convicted criminal who held onto the gun for a few days before handing it into police in a way that seemed deliberately designed to cause problems (telling a senior police officer he had a grudge against, “I have something for you” and pulling the weapon out suddenly - in America, where police are armed, I think he’d have had a good chance of getting shot with a stunt like that) he probably wouldn’t have been charged with anything at all.


49 posted on 12/18/2011 10:20:35 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Sad but true in these “interesting times”


50 posted on 12/19/2011 11:04:56 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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