Skip to comments.Newt Gingrich and the revenge of the base
Posted on 12/18/2011 9:48:58 PM PST by Jim Robinson
It is one of the true delights of a bizarrely entertaining Republican presidential contest to watch the apoplectic fear and loathing of so many GOP establishmentarians toward Newt Gingrich. They treat him as an alien body whose approach to politics they have always rejected.
In fact, Gingrichs rise is the revenge of a Republican base that takes seriously the intense hostility to President Obama, the incendiary accusations against liberals and the Manichaean division of the world between an us and a them that his party has been peddling in the interest of electoral success.
The right-wing faithful knows Gingrich pioneered this style of politics, and they laugh at efforts to cast the former House speaker as something other than a true conservative. They know better.
The establishment was happy to use Gingrichs tactics to win elections, but it never expected to lose control of the party to the voters it rallied with such grandiose negativity. Now, the joke is on those who manipulated the base. The base is striking back, and Newt is their weapon.
This quality endows Gingrich with a peculiar integrity, which I realize is a problematic word to apply to such a problematic figure. I use it in a very specific sense: He is who he is and always has been. The base knows this and loves him for it. But for Republican leaders, Gingrich has become inconvenient. Hes the loudmouthed uninvited guest who is trying to rejoin the country club. The effort to blackball Newt Gingrich will be the next drama in this fascinating train wreck of a campaign.
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Can you imagine if someone like e.j. dionne were in charge of our defense or foreign policy? He would give our adversaries such a good lisp-lashing, then a hearty bitch slap and call it good.
Oh wait — someone like e.j. dionne IS in charge of our defense and foreign policy.
I care what EJ has to say like I care what a boil on my backside has to say.
It’s difficult to temperately judge any E.J. Dionne Jr column because he’s such a repulsive weasel.
The effort to blackball Newt Gingrich will be the next drama in this fascinating train wreck of a campaign
And you'll be there in the club car drinking to Newt's demise, won't you, EJ?
Well, he sure spotted the railroad job the GOP establishment is running on Newt.
If Santorum does not get a big win in Iowa, Gingrich will be the choice of all Christian conservatives like myself.
For those of you who think I am crazy, just watch.
I am in touch with more Evangelical Christians then most Freepers could imagine, and I guarantee you that If Sanatorium does not win, and win bug in Iowa, they will be supporting Gingrich.
My enemy’s enemy is my candidate. Go Newt!
How’s this gem from the article:
“And in truth, the party took his approach to heart. If discrediting John Kerrys service in Southeast Asia through false attacks in 2004 was what it took to reelect a president who had avoided going to Vietnam, what the heck.”
Newt was a tough conservative fighter in 1994. However after four years of unending attacks by the left, Newt became weak and compromising. So he resigned at the end of 1998 as he lost support on the right.
The fascinating thing is will the same thing happen again, or will the historian learn from his mistakes, not care what the left and the establishment GOP think, and not fold this time?
“The effort to blackball Newt Gingrich will be the next drama in this fascinating train wreck of a campaign.”
I guess for the Washington ComPost, it’s far better to just be told by Soros who your nominee is. No need to ever “vet” your candidate, or even look at his BIRTH CIRTIFICATE or SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.
He’s not trying to “re-join the country club”, he’s trying to bypass it entirely.
Is EJ Dionne available to scrub my “Mohammed”-themed toilet bowl?
OK, let's see if Sanatorium wins insect.
Spellcheck much? /grammar Nazi>
This article is inherently incohesive. If Gingrich is the revenge of the base, then he gets elected and so how would this be a “fascinating train wreck of a campaign.” If the base, on the hand thinks Gingrich is another Goldwater, then they may decline the suitor. Iowa will tell. Maybe they’d choose Santorum or Bachmann.
All I have to say is I want a choice not an echo. What I am hearing from Newt is a real choice, not Obama or Obama lite.
If he wins the nomination he has my vote, till then I am savoring every debate and praying that the Republic is restored.
That said I still can't get on board with Newt. That could change. It's wait and see.
This statement is downright laughable. E.J. Dionne? Please!
Well said. Gingrich or Perry - One’s probably smarter, the other’s probably steadier. They’re both pretty much career politicians but Newt is far more of an insider and wonk - Perry’s degree is in animal science, for petesake.
What worries many of us I think about Newt is that he’ll come up with some crazy crap that will just get blown all out of proportion and torpedo his campaign. On the other hand, he has a history of holding progressive views at times, but nothing as whacky as some of Ron Pauls stuff. And I suspect all of his dirty laundry has already been hauled out in the open.
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But, I must say, that in the article, E.J. is right about the GOP establishment.
Thanks, I caught that after I hit the post button. Oh well.
If E.J. wasn’t a screaming lib he’d find himself unsuitable for any job description, and probably one of those homeless folks leeching off of the Occupy leeches. Sheesh, what a waste of skin.
ping, to read later....
After Newt and the Republicans took over, the Dems continued to act like it was just a temporary set-back, because the universe wasn't right unless they were in charge.
Their idea of the good ol’ days, when the parties got along in DC and things got done, was before Newt showed up...when the Dems ran the town, and Bob Michel was Tip O’Neills limo driver. The reason things became contentious in DC was not because of Newt as much as it was because the Dems felt entitled to be in charge, and still to this day, refuse to accept their true minority status.
Newt is looking good!
His choice of John Bolton for Secty of State is icing on the cake- Nobody gets the lib's panties more twisted than John Bolton.
I’m not about to vote for Gingrich, because E.J. Dionne claims he’s a conservative. This is a colossal fakeout. The media is pressing this idea that Gingrich is the conservative alternative to Romney. I am not voting for him just because the media tells me.
Even though Gingrich subscribes to Tofflerism, which considers Christianity obsolete?
"In fact, Gingrichs rise is the revenge of a Republican base that takes seriously the intense hostility to President Obama, the incendiary accusations against liberals and the Manichaean division of the world between an us and a them that his party has been peddling in the interest of electoral success."
"The right-wing faithful knows Gingrich pioneered this style of politics, and they laugh at efforts to cast the former House speaker as something other than a true conservative. They know better."
"I read his damn book."
Any Republican candidate is going to get hit with an onslaught that the press will mischaracterize and blow out of proportion.
Newt at least has the articulation skills to stand up to the onslaught, plus the historical grounding of founding principles.
Fannie/Freddie issue is probably the most damaging thing in his past, unless he has been cheating on wifey number 3.
A flawed candidate to be sure, but perhaps the only one knowledgeable enough about the way the federal government works, and the intent of the founding principles to provide the leadership for what needs to be done. Unless some other candidate get in.
At least I am enjoying watching him in the debates.
His answers to specific questions, one on one, are even more enlightening.
For instance on "Fannie/Freddie issue is probably the most damaging thing in his past":
Newt had a consulting firm. It was not a one man show. Fannie/Freddie contracted with that company for some $1M+ over 5 years. $200K/yr to a company is ? when it comes to Washington retainers?
“Newt had a consulting firm. It was not a one man show. Fannie/Freddie contracted with that company for some $1M+ over 5 years. $200K/yr to a company is ? when it comes to Washington retainers?”
Yeh, yeh, yeh. I heard it. His response during the debate to the Fannie/Freddie issues was the least impressive of the whole debate, and is the one the less informed voters are likely view extremely negatively.
It won’t affect my vote. If Newt is nominated I’ll vote for him, but Fannie/Freddie is an issue that can be exploited quite well by Alinsky tactics, and some people will abandon him on this issue alone that is all I am saying.
Newt will attract more votes than he repels.
That means he will top 50%.
I like Glenn Thrush said on Politico about who Obama really wants to go up against in the election. “If Romney is a conventional enemy, Gingrich poses an asymmetrical threat: Hes simply a more dangerous, talented and unpredictable political actor than Romney.”
Beating Romney for Obama would be like beating his little brother at checkers. Taking on Newt would be like taking on Garry Kasparov at chess.
What are we on now, the fourth or fifth distinct anti-Newt narrative in two weeks? Either nothing has stuck so far or Newt has managed to throw everyone off of what they were focused on with his own moments of shock and awe. The infidelity narrative got blown away when Newt bashed Romney for his tactics at Bain capital. Now the Freddie Mac stuff seems to be fading away as people focus on Newt’s somewhat radical position on the judiciary. I constantly have the feeling that Newt’s thinking two steps ahead of the public and three steps ahead of the media.
Bill Kristol on Fox News Sunday this weekend said Newt is not as damaged as the Washington elites think he is and may have weathered the worst of the attacks. I think the bottom line is the media has tried to put him in a box, wrap him up and ship him off, but he keeps finding his way out of the box.
If we were good people - politically correct people - we would love Obama out of office. But since we are baaaaad people, we would put Newt against Obama.
Newt will tear Obammy a new one. They are afraid of him.
I'd say if Newt has made his mind up, then they are underestimating him. I can't wait to see him mop the floor with Obama in the debates. Heck, Barry may decide to follow Johnson's example just to avoid Newt. Well not really, but it's good for a smile. LOL.
Rove is obviously sending waves of kamikazes and Zeroes to Sink the Newtmarck.
Bachmann is standing by Her Man, Mitt Romney.
Perry remains, and gets more relaxed and personable.
Obama has launched his It Was Worse Than They Told Us campaign.
There will be a Wag the Dog Foreign Adventure attempting to scare the sheep into huddling round the crypto-Islamo-Communist traitor.
Perhaps Ron Paul and Gary Johnson and Donald Trump can form the Tres Amigos Third Party.
When the winged monkeys, shrieking fairies and carping harpies of the media are exhausted
and the last box of bogus ballots has been "found" in Hoffa's safe, we'll exorcise our Republic.
I think the propagandist media, that is in the tank for Obama, is itching for Gingrich to run against Obama. They can use him to scare the sh!t out of the 49% of Americans that pay no taxes and get another massive turnout to the polls. Let’s face it, even though the comments he makes sounds great to conservatives for the most part, they’ll be able to make him into a crazy Nazi figure.
Once again Dionne unwittingly reveals his apparent total lack of political sophistication and self-knowledge.
Who is it, besides Obama himself, that is constantly banging the drum to identify Republicans as the embodiment of all that is evil, if not Dionne?
I'm not sure that's true, for i think they do fear Gingrich. Yes, they will try to make him out as "a crazy Nazi" but they'd play that game with anyone to the right of Romney. Gingrich though is the one most capable of fighting back. No disrespect to Bachmann, Perry, or Santorum, but Gingrich is much more a master at combating a hostile media.
The bottom line is that we have to take the fight to the media or we'll always be under their thumb. It is time to take a stand. Or rather, it's high time to put the media on the stand. To put them on the defensive lest they come off as too one-sided. For that's the only way we're going to win in the long run. For if we go with Romney out of fear of what the media will do with a conservative candidate, then the media will have gained even greater power over us.
And besides, the more often they paint conservative Republicans as the "bad guy", the more people are going to realize that the media has it in for all conservatives, that they are by and large an extension of the left wing of the democrat party and are a power in their own right that needs to be held accountable for their not-so-hidden agendas.
Gingrich is the current pick because he is so very great at debate. Perry can’t really debate, no matter how good he may be at campaigning. He probably can’t explain much to the American people. But Gingrich may not have the consistency or strong, secure ego one needs to be a leader. Gingrich is an emotionally insecure man. Things backfire on him. He is insecure and arrogant. It’s consistently gotten him into trouble. Thst’s the most consistent thing about him.
Waiting for the Santorum surprise.
“Baghdad Bob” Dionne? Puh-leeze!
And the remaining 51% will go for NEWT.
And in truth, the party took his approach to heart. If discrediting John Kerrys service in Southeast Asia through false attacks in 2004 was what it took to reelect a president who had avoided going to Vietnam, what the heck.Yesterday afternoon I somehow sliced my right index finger on my guitar string. It's sort of like a paper cut and hurts like hades even with 'New Skin' on it.
Now to the point -- If I was John Kerry and I was sitting on 'my boat' in Vietnam instead of a chair in my bedroom -- I'd put in for a Purple Heart. As that was about the extent of any of his three (cough-BS) 'battle wounds'. Nothing more than a paper cut!
It was also how he was able to scoot out of Nam in approx four months due to some obscure Navy Reg that 'Cong Killer Kerry'(/s) was amazingly all too familiar with.
If EJ gets wind of my post the poor guy will get a case of the vapors ;-)
Freddie/fannie are just not natural populist bogeymen. It would take quite a bit of subtlety to attack Gingrich over $1M from Fred/Fan without simultaneously condemning the tens of millions that democrat career types (e.g. Jamie Gorelick) ripped off from them.