Skip to comments.Carolina Panthers’ Jeremy Shockey Slams Houston Texans Players for Poor National Anthem Etiquette
Posted on 12/19/2011 4:30:08 AM PST by nhwingut
HOUSTON (The Blaze/AP) Carolina Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey criticized members of the Houston Texans for not putting their hands over their hearts during the national anthem, calling their inaction kind of offensive.
Shockey says he saw about 10 players who didnt do the traditional gesture when the anthem is played, and he told some of them how he felt during Carolinas 28-13 victory.
I was pretty upset in the way they werent showing respect to America during the national anthem, Shockey said. This is America and you should at least give respect to America.
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That offends me to no end! Finally, somebody on the field having the guts to stand up and say something.......Good for you Jeremy!
When I was in high school, I was selected to attend Boys’ State, which was put on by the American Legion. They taught us that for the Pledge of Allegiance, putting the hand over the heart was customary, but for the national anthem, standing at rapt attention was perfectly acceptable. There are others out there on the Internet who say similar things. It would appear that this is something that has changed over time and is a source of confusion. I think much worse of someone not standing or not taking off his hat than I do about someone not holding their hand over their heart.
Shockey is one crazy mof*, but he’s got this one right. Kinda surprised actually, pleasantly.
Exactly. Many of us were taught to salute when wearing a uniform, but when out of uniform, to pay respect by standing and removing any head cover. This is not disrespect and nobody should get bent out shape.
What a non-story. It’s not like they were horsing around. They probably used Obama as their pledge role model.
I hope everyone who comments here takes the time to view the video. Note the Carolina bench.
I teach in a school district that is 80% minority. Almost everyone of them gets a free breakfast and lunch. Yet, each morning when we say the “Pledge of Allegiance” they NEVER put their hand over their heart and NEVER say the pledges to the U.S. and Texas Flags; the two government entities that just fed their lazy a**. I’ve raised hell about it to no avail.
Too some football players he game is not bout patriotism, it’s bout them.
What video I can’t find it!
The AF teaches this:
In military uniform, outdoors - salute, indoors - stand at attention.
Out of uniform, indoors or out - remove head cover, hand over heart.
There might be some different traditions, since I was briefed at an Army post that during retreat we were expected to stop the car, get out and render proper courtesies while on AF bases we stop and sit at attention in the vehicle. (If you’re in you stay in, if you’re out, stay out.) Maybe this is different as well.
There’s a video link at www.chron.com (The Houston Chronicle).
What gets my goat with the Anthem as it's rendered at sporting events nowadays is the singing of it either as a pop-rock piece, or a funeral dirge, with the athletes bowing their heads as if in prayer. None of those things, to my mind, are in keeping with the spirit of the Anthem.
My brother taught for a few years in an Eastern inner city socialist high school. He report the same. His classroom was the only classroom in the school with an American flag.
I agree. Maybe it’s an generational thing (I’m 63), but I learned as you did. I still don’t put my hand on my heart for the National Anthem. However, I can’t remember what we were taught was the proper etiquette for when the flag, being carried, passed in front of you. I know standing was mandatory, and doffing of hats of course, but hand over heart? Anyone know?
As a civilian, I was taught to place my hand over my heart for the Pledge, but to stand at attention with my hat off for the Anthem. As far as I know, there has never been any protocol requiring that one place his hand over his heart during the Anthem.
Further, I was taught not to applaud at the conclusion of the Anthem.
It’s was not about the performer, at least in those (better) days.
What’s neat is the change to flag protocol that now allows soldiers in civilian clothes and veterans to render the hand salute (present arms) to the colors during retreat.
To hear “retreat” played over the post PA system and to then stop my car, get out, and upon hearing “to the colors” come to present arms is an honor I will always cherish.
Kudos to Mr. Shockey!
Same here ... but I do have one problem with the National Anthem. When it's over, I still have to resist shouting "Beat Army" ...
Color us ultra patriotic but Mrs Clamper and I stand at attention hand over heart in our living room if the anthem is played on a TV game.
Somehow, I think, it's become confused with the Pledge. Both involve the flag. And I think it's true that people become inured to traditions to the point where they don't know when, where and how the traditions originated, or why they're observed.
I couldn’t tell anything from that video.
Thats just a bit OTT.
‘Jeremy Shockey accuses Texans of disrespecting America during National Anthem, proves he’s still an idiot’
‘Shockey’s charge came so far out of left field that it could barely fit into Reliant, even on a day when the roof was closed. Reporters aren’t typically watching players during the National Anthem so it’s hard to say that he is completely wrong. But players in many pro sports are often swaying on their feet in place during the National Anthem, anticipating the game.
Many other players just stand there silently, what they probably think is respectfully, with their hands at their sides or clasped behind their back.
As long as everyone is standing for the song, no one keeps score of who is holding their arm across their chest.
Except apparently Jeremy Shockey. Forget being a tight end who has often failed to live up to the potential that made him the 14th overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft. Shockey is the head of the American Patriot Police. Self anointed.
He obviously wasn’t in Reliant for the Sept. 11 opener when the Texans put on a moving, flag-filled pregame ceremony that involved several players. DeMeco Ryans lead the Texans out onto the field, waving a gigantic American flag that day.
It’s absurd to call Houston’s NFL franchise unpatriotic. On the very day that Shockey made his charges, the Texans surprised the widow of a Marine with a halftime presentation that let her know she’d be receiving a new mortgage-free, custom-built home through Operation FINALLY HOME. Sara Wood and her 5-year-old son Landon will be moving into the new house.
Wood’s husband, Marine staff sergeant Scott Wood, was killed in the line of duty.
Shockey wasn’t interested in that though. Instead, he says he saw disrespect from the Texans toward the country that he loves.
Whether Shockey was really mad about the National Anthem or the crushing hit Ryans delivered to him, separating him from the football on one memorable play, is a matter for debate. For Shockey made sure to point out that he also beat Ryans on a touchdown catch, while pretending not to know the linebacker’s name.
“It was simple play,” Shockey said of the touchdown, “And I guess, what his name Ryans, DeMarco Ryans, what’s his name? DeMeco Ryans couldn’t make a play and it was an easy touchdown.”
Hey, no one’s ever employed Jeremy Shockey for his brain.’
You're right. Most players are staring towards the ground, shuffling their feet, chewing and spitting.
I went to the link, read the article and saw no video....where is it?
I provided a link further down. The video really doesn’t show what I thought it did, though. If you haven’t already, don’t bother.
Here’s my issue: Several posting on this thread just took Shockley’s comments at face value— accepted what he said and praised him. Really?? Shockley said it so it’s true? Imagine them voting in the next presidential election.