Posted on 12/19/2011 6:29:33 AM PST by Libloather
Vermont fraternity chapter closed indefinitely over rape survey
LISA RATHKE - Staff Writer
9:53 a.m. EST, December 17, 2011
MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — A University of Vermont fraternity whose members are accused of circulating a survey that asked who they would like to rape has been closed indefinitely.
The national Sigma Phi Epsilon made the announcement Friday after an internal investigation and lengthy discussions with the university in Burlington.
"Without suggesting that every member had knowledge of this questionnaire, the questions asked in the document are deplorable and absolutely inconsistent with our values," said Brian Warren, executive director of the national fraternity organization based in Richmond, Va.
The national organization has said there's no indication the questionnaire was sanctioned by the fraternity or distributed to the more than 50 members of the Vermont chapter.
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They pretend as though we want federal laws against sodomy, porn, or whatever vices they want protected. When we point out that we want the states to be able to make such laws; they disappear and/or totally ignore out points.
I think the reason (one of them, anyway) they can’t think is another plank on the LP platform, if you get my drift... Actually will be pinging an article in that regard in a bit.
Any liberaltarian that I’ve talked to is one simply because they want to freely practice their own vices.
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Is this not a private organization? If this organization decides that a chapter should be closed, should the government become involved?
Touche’.......
Libertarians simply CANNOT be consistent in their position on government involvement, which shows the fallacy of their position.
Liberaltarians’ (and some others) very platform of belief cancels itself out, internally. The inherent contradictions destroy it from within. Only people who are wilfully blind can belief utter nonsense.
The truth is coming out. It was one student who was a Frat Member other Frat Members told him to remove the post. So in typical FemNazi pandering fashion. The National Fraternity closed the fraternity punished Frat members who were not involved. It is appalling that Conservatives including Women want to censor Free Speech. Free Speech includes vulgar, objectionable and even moronic behavior. Freedom implicitly means you can make mistakes, act idiotic and even engage in boorish and crude language.
Former SigEp members said that the fraternity as a whole didn’t have much to do with the survey, and that it was the actions of one person that led to this incident.
“One individual was responsible for coming up with the appalling question,” former SigEp member Wes Lewis said. “It was never answered because who it was asked to refused to answer it and the told the new member to change the question immediately.”
Lewis also said that it was series of questions between individuals rather than a survey.
Members of the fraternity are still unsure of who authored the question, he said.
Other former fraternity members said that they were surprised at how quickly the situation escalated.
“I feel like this whole entire thing came out of nowhere,” former SigEp member K.C. Charles said. “It was a fraternity against the world pretty much during the worst time of the semester.”
Charles also said that it’s incredibly hard to be a fraternity nowadays with the stigmas of the past attached and that they are just judged before people get to know them.
Though some former members may be feeling upset about the decision to close Sigma Phi Epsilon’s chapter at UVM, Lewis said it’s a decision that must be acknowledged.
“Our national organization chose to shut us down,” he said. “That is something they believed would benefit SigEp as a whole so we need to accept that.”
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