Posted on 12/19/2011 8:43:54 AM PST by freespirited
With the Seattle City Council expected to vote on a plastic bag ban Monday, is it time to bid farewell to something Seattleites use 292 million of a year?
The bill would banish single-use, carryout bags in not just grocery stores, but department stores, clothing stores, liquor stores, drug stores and home improvement stores.
Customers would be able to buy paper bags from retailers for 5 cents each. Customers on food assistance would be exempted from that charge.
With seven of nine council members sponsoring the bill – and support from environmental and grocery-store groups – the future doesn’t look too bright for plastic.
But bags would have a lot of company in a big graveyard of things once common in Seattle, and now legislated out of existence. Were these the good old days? Or a sign of how far we’ve come?
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.seattlepi.com ...
A sign of how far gone you are.
Seems like every week a story comes out of Seattle to discourage me from ever thinking of moving there.
I’ve been shopping at Trader Joe’s a lot and they use only paper bags. I have a huge stack of paper bags because there aren’t that many ways to re-use them. Not so for plastic. We use those for all kinds of things around the house, backyard, and I always keep a few in the car for trash. The paper bags are too bulky.
Anyone else see a market in people on “food assistance” getting bags for free, and selling them for 3 cents?
IMO, this is just more of “Death of the West” type stuff.
We are destroying ourselves from within.
What gets me, is how many have bought into this utter nonsense. You can’t listen to the television for an hour without hearing the terms “earth friendly”, “environmentally friendly”, “green”,...
There’s a sickness in the land, and it has it’s roots in the church of hyper ecological paranoia.
I “love” the F-150 with “Eco-Boost”.
I swear to God, if some salesman tried to sell me a pick up truck with “Eco-Boost”, I’d laugh and mock him out of the lot...
About 3/4 of the plastic bags we get, go back to the stores in their bag recycle bin at the front door. The other 1/4 become garbage bags lining every trash can in the house, bags to haul all kinds of stuff around, dog crap pickup bags, covers to protect the work bench and furniture when doing projects, and many other uses.
Looks like it may be time to start hoarding them for the time the enviro-Nazis enter our stores.
The sad thing is, the 3.5L Ecoboost is a hell of an engine. 365 horsepower out of a 3.5L V6? The gas mileage of a V6 with the power and torque of a V8? I’d be all over it if I could afford a new F150 (or Flex). It’s just saddled with a stupid name.
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I actually like the paperbags with handles better. They are stronger and easier to carry. I am not against getting rid of plastic bags but I don’t like those cloth bags at all.
“Save a Tree....or... Choke a Fish! Environmental WACKOS!
WTH is Eco-boost? LOL
Stupid name kills it, I mean, I don’t care if it teleports.
Eco-Boost is just utterly obnoxious.
It is democrat tom foolery!
You can buy your giant pick up and still know you’re helping the environment ><;
And they even have a dude with a deep announcer voice describing Eco-Boost in the commercial, so that we men can rest assured that Eco-Boost is, in fact, manly.
As in carbon credits...
I use or recycle all plastic and paper bags for trash and litter control.
I haven't thrown away a bag or box for more than a decade, and very little before that. The one item I still have trouble with is Styrofoam.
I was asked what I had against trees. I said trees were renewable (this was 30 + years ago)and that it might be worth considering restricting shopping bag fabrication to either recycle or fast growing tree materials.
I was called an idiot and a hater of the environment. It's 30 years hence and I am still working for dirty water, dirty air and maybe even to starve some kids in my spare time.
Now, apparently, the Third Council of all things environmental has deemed that in fact they were wrong that paper bags are good (at the right price) and that plastic bags are evil.
These are the same people who hold that we all should use one square of toilet paper per incident or we are in violation of their commandments.
Sounds like the Eco-Boost man should meet the Marlboro man in short order...
Cannot pick up your dog’s droppings with a paper bag. It just isn’t flexible enough.
Next they will be complaining about the proliferation of dog doo-doo.
I am under the impression that the current plastic bags are designed to disolve within a certain amount of time. They have cornstarch in them, I think.
WA Ping
I worked for a corporation that used large volumes of giant plastic bags as thick as water bed mattresses. The local politicians decided that the landfill was being degraded and they decided to fine the companies that were dumping industrial plastic. Our CFO asked how much the fine was compared to what we would spend trying to recycle the stuff. In the end he said, "Pay the fine."
The bottom line is the bottom line. Because so many people in government have no idea how business works, they run head long into making rules that often do no good for anyone.
2011– Ford F-150
365 hp (272 kW) @5500 rpm, 420 lb·ft (569 N·m) @2500 rpm, 90% torque @1700-5000 rpm
You could always buy one, rip off the offending “Eco-Boost” badge and put your own “Belch-Fire 5000” and “I’m a MACHO man” stickers on it. ;-)
And I think modern plastic bags don’t even have that problem. I’m pretty sure they’re biodegrabable now. And they are made with an absolute minimum of material, unlike a paper bag which is quite bulky. I’d almost be willing to be that if you looked at the total environmental impact of a plastic versus paper bag, plastic would win.
“Cannot pick up your dog’s droppings with a paper bag.”
But you could paint the green and sell them as Eco-Friendly Paperweights! /sarc
Heh :D
The thing is, by using that name, they are trying to market the fire belcher to democrats, but we all know democrats buy SMRT cars, because they are SMRT, it even says so in the name of the “car”.
Correction!
ORGANIC Eco-Friendly Paperweights
The headline reminded me of the Dom Deloise ad where he is singing “Sealed with a Kiss” to Baggies or some similar plastic food storage bag/wrap.
Biodegradable, Carbon-Neutral, Organic, Eco-Friendly Paperweights. AND, They Are GREEN!
So the Seattle politicians have investments in either paper bag manufacturing companies, or the cloth bag manufacturers.
Yeah, doc, that’s the one. Thanks!
No prob. By the way. It is spelled “DeLuise”.
send them to meeeeee. Two paper bags are all the firestarter I need for my woodstove. I always ask for paper!
Well this will sure encourage shopping in seattle.....not!
So, I see. Of, course the trouble is in getting people to buy them.
” Sounds like the Eco-Boost man should meet the Marlboro man in short order...”
Is this gonna be a sequel to Brokeback Mountain?
I suppose we can use duffle bags or our pillow cases. ;-)
It’s the unfortunate name for one of Ford’s new top of the line engines. A 3.5-liter twin-turbo V6 good for 365 horsepower and 420 pounds-feet of torque. It’s an option in top-end F150 pickups, Flex SUVs, and the Taurus SHO sports sedan.
Basically, it gives the power and grunt of Ford’s big truck V8s but the gas mileage of a V6. It’s one hell of a piece of technology and I’ve yet to hear a bad review of one. Unfortunately, Ford stuck it with an “Eco” name.
While I give Ford huge credit for not taking the government cheese the way that GM and Chrysler did, and while they’re probably making the best products of any domestic carmaker right now, their marketing department still pushes the greenie-weenie agenda as hard as anyone. If you go to Ford’s website they really push all the hybrid versions of their cars in your face and talk about how “green” their stuff all is, instead of how well they’re built or how fast they go (or just how good their gas mileage is, etc.).
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“Anyone else see a market in people on “food assistance” getting bags for free, and selling them for 3 cents?”
you kidding...that would be work
Well, after some googling it turns out that the typical single-use plastic grocery bag, like one you’d get at Walmart, isn’t biodegradable. However they are photodegradable. That’s not good enough for the enviros, though.
Sounds like something that might have helped congressman WEENner.
Next big thing? Selling plastic bags
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