Skip to comments.No, Really, Ron Paul Cannot Win
Posted on 12/19/2011 3:39:51 PM PST by TBBT
Andrew Sullivan, following up his (Republican primary) endorsement of Ron Paul, argues today that campaign reporters and pundits who say he cant win the nomination are all wrong:
No, he really cant. It would be nearly impossible to imagine the Republican Party nominating a candidate who spent years and years publishing a racist newsletter and has deep associations with the fringe far right. (Here he is speaking to the John Birch Society on the occasion of its 50th anniversary.) It would be even more impossible to imagine the Party nominating a candidate who favors total withdrawal from world affairs and takes a Chomsky-ite line on American power. The notion that the Party might nominate a candidate who does both these things is totally preposterous.
Pauls supporters seem to believe that the media ignoring him is the only thing keeping him from challenging for the Party nomination. More likely, its the only thing thats allowed his candidacy to progress to this point. If more people actually understood the full scope of Pauls fringe-right views, a huge portion of his support would peel off.
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But he can serve a purpose. That purpose is to prevent the Not Romney for coalescing around one candidate.
He is quite useful for Obama. What could be better for Obama than a crackpot polluting the GOP primary process?
Cuckoo on foreign relations — absolutely cuckoo. The GOP convention would sooner drink cyanide Kool-Aid than nominate Paul.
I have voted Republican in every presidential election since my first one in 1972. If Ron-Paul Ahmanutjob is the nominee, it would be the first time I would NOT vote Republican.
Who are you voting for then genius? Anyone is better than Barry.. even *hold my nose* Ron Paul.
Ron Paul is a Re-set Button....
Better than Obama, but still just as painful, maybe MORE painful inthe short run....
The issue is is after Ron paul re-sets would it lead to a Backlash Swing back to the Democrats? Yes, probably.
Even Don Imus knows Ron Paul is a lunatic.
Votes for Run Paul serve a purpose for those who want Obama to have another four years.
He wouldn’t just “not win”, he wouldn’t even carry Utah, the reddest of the red.
And no sane person should want him to win.
Oh My! Lions & Tigers & Bears... The evil JBS too?!
This once great nation will remain on the road to destruction whether we take the fast lane with "O" or change to the slow lane with Mitt or Newt. This country will be toast in another 20, 25 years or so. And we deserve it. Apathetic or Pathetic? Whatever...
It’s getting a bit much here the last few days, isn’t it?
Someone needs to get a new script.This lunatic nutcase stuff is boring. Also can’t win business which has been used on every candidate except Romney. Look anyone that thinks Romney or the GOP can win without the Tea Party is NUTS.
Ron Paul himself probably doesn’t think he could win. But this does not negate his candidacy one bit, in fact, by not winning, his ideas could become a lot more powerful.
For example, imagine if the eventual candidate (other than RINO Romney), were to name Ron Paul as his VP? Those who agreed with *most* of Paul’s ideas would click their heels, especially if the presidential candidate openly tasked Paul with planning bit cuts in government.
Or, just as good, possibly better, the new president could appoint Paul as head of a major government agency, and task him with eliminating it. And then, when it was gone, to make him head of another agency, with the same prerogative.
Importantly, such agencies spend a lot of time trying to come up with something important to do, to justify their bloat. So if there was something legitimate, Paul would have to identify just it, and arrange for it to be transferred to a surviving agency.
Ironically as all get out, Paul would be able to do this *better* as a VP or cabinet officer than he would be able to do as president.
However, the only way this can come about is if Paul gets such a following as a candidate, that whoever wins the nomination has no choice but to either invite Paul in to a position of real power, or to split the party.
Mind you, this would *not* be Paul splitting the party, as some pundits have suggested, but the *other* candidate. And by doing so, he would almost guarantee he would lose. So he would have no choice in the matter.
So even if you don’t believe in all of what Paul is saying, or have other reservations about him, you can still root for his candidacy, and hope he comes in with a close second place.
The author is absolutely right in that Ron Paul will not win the gop nomination. That’s already spoken for by Mitt Romney.
But that’s not the point. The question is whether he can win the general election as a third party candidate.
Of course, the pre-determined theme on this thread is that “Ron Paul is CRAZY, NUTS, HE HATES JEWS, HE’S AN APPEASER, HE’S DANGEROUS!!”
So I guess we’ll see what happens.
“The GOP convention would sooner drink cyanide Kool-Aid than nominate Paul.”
But they’ll rush to nominate mittens. Bet on it.
“Votes for Run Paul serve a purpose for those who want Obama to have another four years.”
Naaaah. That purpose is filled by voters for mitt. Who will be the gop nominee by the way.
For the only time I can remember, I agree with Chait about something.
Go back to TNR and you'll likely find more of this tripe, but aimed at George W. Bush.
Jonathan Chait, for anyone who cares.
I plan on voting for the Republican candidate. I cannot possibly imagine Paul being the nominee. The thought is too bizarre to contemplate.
Ron Paul isn't the only Republican Chait haits.
States have rights? Whodathunkit?
Under some strange scenarios Ron Paul could win the presidency. Mitt Romney gets caught embezzeling money from his corporation,and fraudulantly funding his campaign with the money. At the same time Newt gets caught in a gay trist. He want give up his lovers name, but says its ok cause he didn’t mess around with other women like he promised his wife he wouldn’t. Barack Obama resigns. Telling the media he was tired of cleaning two houses, after divorsing his wife. Ron Paul is the last man standing.
You wonder, if the real reason many in the GOP are afraid of Ron Paul...is that he would cut the budget and spending...
Not my candidate (Michelle Bachmann is my choice)...but with the RINO infestation among the 2012 group....Ron Paul is actually more palatable than the Global Warming guy...the Open Borders/Illegal Alien In State Tuition guy....and the I was ObamaCare before ObamaCare guy.
In 2008 we had much better overall conservative candidates...and ended up with Liberal RINO Soros Funded John McCain. I see the GOP making another big mistake in 2012