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"North Korea" Could it split into two seperate parts ?!

Posted on 12/19/2011 8:05:27 PM PST by Jedediah

Is North Korea about to split into two parts not necessarily of the same size ! Could there be a big regime change be a regime change ! will the puppet master please stand up !


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1 posted on 12/19/2011 8:05:30 PM PST by Jedediah
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To: Jedediah

what are you talking about


2 posted on 12/19/2011 8:06:33 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Jedediah
Based on what? tea leaves?
3 posted on 12/19/2011 8:07:17 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Jedediah

I thought about that. “North” North Korea - administered by China, and “South” North Korea, administered by South Korea. Absorbing the North is just way too costly for the South Koreans or the ChiComs to handle alone.


4 posted on 12/19/2011 8:08:43 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Jedediah

Pyongyang becomes a city-state? It’s not far from that now, only loyalists are allowed to live there.


5 posted on 12/19/2011 8:08:43 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Jedediah; a fool in paradise

Yep, been thinking the same thang: North North Korea and South North Korea.


6 posted on 12/19/2011 8:09:01 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

>>North North Korea and South North Korea.<<

No worse than the Los Angeles Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles.


7 posted on 12/19/2011 8:11:17 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: Jedediah

Maybe one side that can spell correctly, and one side that cannot.


8 posted on 12/19/2011 8:16:37 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: Jedediah

Could be a chance for a double-naught spy to make a little hay.


9 posted on 12/19/2011 8:18:07 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Jedediah

If North Korea splits down the middle, you’d have the Northeast and the Northwest — and, based on the political geography of the US— I expect both sections would still be Communist.


10 posted on 12/19/2011 8:19:14 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war. It's coming.)
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To: Jedediah

I am just looking forward to the day when the border comes down and the South Koreans can re-join their families, get the NorKs de-programmed from the decades of brainwashing, clean up the environmental damage done to the land, and a create a thriving economy.


11 posted on 12/19/2011 8:21:10 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jedediah

Are you series?


12 posted on 12/19/2011 8:23:08 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s going to take at least two generations before the Koreas can reunite. It may end up being like Canada/US or Germany/Austria, countries that speak the same language, but because of historical reasons, are apart.


13 posted on 12/19/2011 8:23:22 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Korea ~ historic Korea ~ is split into three parts. Although it's not frequently mentioned there is a large chunk of China that's butt up against North Korea where people speak Korean, and in ancient times actually thought of themselves as Koreans.

The smallest of the three kingdoms was in the South and was readily accessible to the Japanese and was not as xenophobic as the other two kingdoms. The middle kingdom, today's North Korea, was always xenophobic and exceedingly totalitarian.

Nothing has really changed!

14 posted on 12/19/2011 8:25:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: dfwgator

don’t be such a pessimist! We’ll conquer canada yet!


15 posted on 12/19/2011 8:27:37 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Steely Tom

Do they have any cement ponds over in North Korea?


16 posted on 12/19/2011 8:29:48 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: dfwgator

Maybe not. The Republic of Korea (South Korea) is perhaps the most advanced country on Earth. Which is amazing, as they were just emerging from third world status when I served there (1978-79 and 1981-82) and still used large charcoal briquets (Ondol) to heat and cook with. They are VERY HARD WORKERS so it’s no accident. If the Germans (another group of hard workers) can assimilate their communist sector, I’m sure the Koreans can too.


17 posted on 12/19/2011 8:31:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: mamelukesabre

I’ll just take Alberta, the rest of Canada is too liberal.


18 posted on 12/19/2011 8:32:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Jedediah

Yeah, right - who gets the nukes?


19 posted on 12/19/2011 8:33:14 PM PST by Stosh
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It took a generation to get rid of the “Wall of the Mind” in Germany.


20 posted on 12/19/2011 8:33:51 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Jedediah

Double your meds.


21 posted on 12/19/2011 8:36:06 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Jedediah
I have always believed China has an unpublicized relationship with NK - perhaps some degree of control

I remember well 1950-53 and the Chinese army taking over the major part of the battle. Th entire peninsula was a shambles when the ceasefire went into effect in August 53.
China rebuilt the North, the US developed the South into a major economic power in Asia.

22 posted on 12/19/2011 8:38:52 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Jedediah

Sorry, but China has that place all wrapped up. The Kim’s are probably serving only with the good graces of the military, which probably has many links to China.

Besides, China can turn off the grain and oil any time they want.

Remember, DPRK is China’s puppet state.


23 posted on 12/19/2011 8:39:48 PM PST by PGR88 (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: PGR88

Also remember that China doesn’t want to be faced with a collapsed North Korea and God knows how many civilian refugees. They’ll keep it propped up as long as possible.


24 posted on 12/19/2011 8:49:21 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: muawiyah; SunkenCiv; no-to-illegals; All

Sounds a little like the old three kingdoms of Vietnam. After I read about the 700 history there, I realized that there was little likelihood of the whole thing falling like dominos into China’s pocket.


25 posted on 12/19/2011 9:03:48 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: hinckley buzzard

Maybe he’s been smokin “tea” leaves instead of reading them.


26 posted on 12/19/2011 9:11:35 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: gleeaikin
The Chinese claim "1000 years of history there" (and sometimes far more) ~ what with their belief that Mandarins ruled.

It's not possible to get straight answers on Indo-Chinese history because EVERYBODY there is a partisan following ancient understandings of what was going on.

The French were newcomers to this debate.

27 posted on 12/19/2011 9:31:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jedediah

Classic North
Lite North


28 posted on 12/19/2011 9:32:16 PM PST by citizencon
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To: ClearCase_guy

If it did split into two, the part administered by South Korea wouldn’t remain communist for very long. South Korea would probably slowly incorporate NorK into S.Korea.


29 posted on 12/19/2011 9:54:16 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jedediah

It’s kind of sad that being annexed by China would actually INCREASE the standard of living for most North Koreans.


30 posted on 12/20/2011 12:10:21 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Jack Hydrazine
South Koreans can re-join their families, get the NorKs de-programmed from the decades of brainwashing, clean up the environmental damage done to the land, and a create a thriving economy.

Who's going to pay for that endeavor?

China doesn't want them free because they don't want more coming into their country....and S. Koreans don't want the mass infiltration either....You free N.Korea and the people will run for all borders fast, they're starving!

Additionally it would take years to undo the mental damage done to these people, they see the world outside as the enemy so just how are you going to get themt o accept other nations coming in to help?.. and further what skills do they have which could be incorporated with any world organization effort?

No matter how it's done..if it can be done at all...it's going to have to go less than slow. I tend to believe neither S.Korea nor China want to do more than they are already doing.

31 posted on 12/20/2011 12:26:19 AM PST by caww
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To: af_vet_rr
China doesn’t want to be faced with a collapsed North Korea and God knows how many civilian refugees. They’ll keep it propped up as long as possible.

I agree....Additionally the Chinese people don't want the Koreans flooding in....the N. Koreans have been living in the 50's not to mention the minds of the people have been wired for trauma dn abuse for generations now. To say they are backward is a vast understatement.

Possibly the younger citizens could adapt...but all the videos I've listened to it takes deprogramming and allot of time even for the young people to get unwired.

32 posted on 12/20/2011 12:36:05 AM PST by caww
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To: dfwgator
Maybe North North Korea should think about selling South North Korea to South Korea.

Kind of like a Louisiana Purchase.

The North North Korea South North Korea South Korea Purchase.

It sings! History will love it!

-PJ

33 posted on 12/20/2011 12:40:59 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: dfwgator
well, speaking the same language does not ensure unity or even partnership. Why should it? Otherwise the US would be a country with the UK and much of the commonwealth.

Culture plays a large role -- yes, language can't be divorced from culture completely, but English culture and even the language the Brits use is slightly different from Americanisms or Aussies.

Germany speaks Standard German (officially) which is quite different from the Austrian dialect -- which is closer to the dialects spoken in Bavaria (Bayern), Swabia and in Switzerland's cantons. Northern Germans in fact tell me they can't understand the accents, intonations or even words used in southern Germany.

Also, Austrian culture is quite different from northern German -- but then even Bavarian culture is different from northern German culture.

34 posted on 12/20/2011 2:45:53 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: muawiyah; gleeaikin; SunkenCiv; no-to-illegals; All
glee -- the old three kingdoms of Vietnam are quite different as the oldest Vietnamese kingdom, the Champa was racially completely different from the Dai Viet.

The Vietnamese are ethnically related to the Chinese. They are also culturally related to the Chinese and have been for thousands of years. They were chased out of what is now southern China by the han Chinese

The Cham people on the other hand were Polynesian/Malay and spoke a Malay language related to the languages of the Filipines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Polynesia etc.
These people were culturally and religiously Indian -- they were Hindus first, then with Buddhist influences (both coming from India) and then Moslem (again coming from India).

the Chinese in terms of "1000 years of history there" if they mean Chinese people, then they are correct -- Chinese traders etc.

if they mean politically then it is murky -- the Han Chinese never ruled their, the Dai Viet kings just paid tribute -- but remember that to the Chinese until the Opium Wars, ALL trade imports were "tribute" and all trade exports were "gifts"...

35 posted on 12/20/2011 2:53:41 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: gleeaikin; Cronos; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks gleeaikin and Cronos.


36 posted on 12/20/2011 3:54:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, I am shakey on Far-East (Korea, China, Japan) history, but am pretty sure about S-E Asia history. The han Chinese have no claim over Vietnam any more than they have claim over Tibet — both gave tribute and the Tibetans gave it to the Mongol Yuan dynasty.


37 posted on 12/20/2011 3:59:54 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca and Medina now..)
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To: Jedediah
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I thought about adding "korea" as a keyword but why screw up the thread?

38 posted on 12/20/2011 4:03:14 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Stosh

Yeah, right - who gets the nukes?

Israel, “delivered” via Iran ...


39 posted on 12/20/2011 4:51:29 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Cronos
Northern Germans in fact tell me they can't understand the accents, intonations or even words used in southern Germany.

Which is not all that different from my experience talking to some American southerners.

40 posted on 12/20/2011 5:18:19 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Cronos
More recently it's been determined that the Polynesian base began on the Chinese mainland directly across from Formosa. That's also the beginning of the Malay,

The earlier belief was that Chinese culture in that particular area had arrived as Northern Chinese moved South. Instead the people in the South developed improved boats AND learned to raise wheat on their islands (as the land raises and subsides quite a bit in that area).

41 posted on 12/20/2011 5:49:18 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jedediah
"North Korea" Could it split into two seperate[sic] parts ?!

Which side would take custody of the light bulb?

42 posted on 12/20/2011 5:51:19 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cronos; gleeaikin; Jedediah

Thanks to you both for pings. Interesting thread. China’s puppet (N. Korea) continues in the age of their darkness.


43 posted on 12/20/2011 6:25:18 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: caww

What happened when the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain came down? It has taken a number of years to accommodate that change.


44 posted on 12/20/2011 8:03:05 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jedediah
Is North Korea about to split into two parts not necessarily of the same size

The smaller one can be called -mini-me!

45 posted on 12/20/2011 8:07:23 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Pan_Yan
I thought about adding "korea" as a keyword but why screw up the thread?

It's times like this that I really wish we had a Facebook-style "Like" button on FR posts.

46 posted on 12/20/2011 8:11:04 AM PST by kevkrom (Separation of Business and State)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
What happened when the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain came down? It has taken a number of years to accommodate that change.

That would be small compared to dealing with the mindset of N.Koreans who are so completely brainwashed.....one does wonder though if 'some' might just not have swallowed the nonsense and just waiting for the leadership change to oppose them.....

The problem is communication is so very dangerous as family memebers watch each other as much as the police do. There is little if any trust elements possible.

47 posted on 12/20/2011 9:20:42 AM PST by caww
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To: dfwgator

How about East North Korea and West North Korea.


48 posted on 12/20/2011 9:23:02 AM PST by DonkeyBonker
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To: muawiyah
Yanbian Prefecture. I know people from there. They are neither Chinese nor Korean yet they are both.

See Yellow Sea, a SK film from last year that opened around USA two weeks ago. The first segments were filmed in Yanbian.

49 posted on 12/20/2011 9:26:55 AM PST by moose-matson (I keep it in my head)
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To: caww

And how about the Germans after WWII? It took seven years for the US forces to get rid of the Nazi sympathizers who were committing acts of guerrilla warfare them. Plus the country had been obliterated by the bombing during the war.


50 posted on 12/20/2011 9:29:52 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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