Skip to comments."North Korea" Could it split into two seperate parts ?!
Posted on 12/19/2011 8:05:27 PM PST by Jedediah
Is North Korea about to split into two parts not necessarily of the same size ! Could there be a big regime change be a regime change ! will the puppet master please stand up !
what are you talking about
I thought about that. “North” North Korea - administered by China, and “South” North Korea, administered by South Korea. Absorbing the North is just way too costly for the South Koreans or the ChiComs to handle alone.
Pyongyang becomes a city-state? It’s not far from that now, only loyalists are allowed to live there.
Yep, been thinking the same thang: North North Korea and South North Korea.
>>North North Korea and South North Korea.<<
No worse than the Los Angeles Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles.
Maybe one side that can spell correctly, and one side that cannot.
Could be a chance for a double-naught spy to make a little hay.
If North Korea splits down the middle, you’d have the Northeast and the Northwest — and, based on the political geography of the US— I expect both sections would still be Communist.
I am just looking forward to the day when the border comes down and the South Koreans can re-join their families, get the NorKs de-programmed from the decades of brainwashing, clean up the environmental damage done to the land, and a create a thriving economy.
Are you series?
It’s going to take at least two generations before the Koreas can reunite. It may end up being like Canada/US or Germany/Austria, countries that speak the same language, but because of historical reasons, are apart.
The smallest of the three kingdoms was in the South and was readily accessible to the Japanese and was not as xenophobic as the other two kingdoms. The middle kingdom, today's North Korea, was always xenophobic and exceedingly totalitarian.
Nothing has really changed!
don’t be such a pessimist! We’ll conquer canada yet!
Do they have any cement ponds over in North Korea?
Maybe not. The Republic of Korea (South Korea) is perhaps the most advanced country on Earth. Which is amazing, as they were just emerging from third world status when I served there (1978-79 and 1981-82) and still used large charcoal briquets (Ondol) to heat and cook with. They are VERY HARD WORKERS so it’s no accident. If the Germans (another group of hard workers) can assimilate their communist sector, I’m sure the Koreans can too.
I’ll just take Alberta, the rest of Canada is too liberal.
Yeah, right - who gets the nukes?
It took a generation to get rid of the “Wall of the Mind” in Germany.
Double your meds.
I remember well 1950-53 and the Chinese army taking over the major part of the battle. Th entire peninsula was a shambles when the ceasefire went into effect in August 53.
China rebuilt the North, the US developed the South into a major economic power in Asia.
Sorry, but China has that place all wrapped up. The Kim’s are probably serving only with the good graces of the military, which probably has many links to China.
Besides, China can turn off the grain and oil any time they want.
Remember, DPRK is China’s puppet state.
Also remember that China doesn’t want to be faced with a collapsed North Korea and God knows how many civilian refugees. They’ll keep it propped up as long as possible.
Sounds a little like the old three kingdoms of Vietnam. After I read about the 700 history there, I realized that there was little likelihood of the whole thing falling like dominos into China’s pocket.
Maybe he’s been smokin “tea” leaves instead of reading them.
It's not possible to get straight answers on Indo-Chinese history because EVERYBODY there is a partisan following ancient understandings of what was going on.
The French were newcomers to this debate.
If it did split into two, the part administered by South Korea wouldn’t remain communist for very long. South Korea would probably slowly incorporate NorK into S.Korea.
It’s kind of sad that being annexed by China would actually INCREASE the standard of living for most North Koreans.
Who's going to pay for that endeavor?
China doesn't want them free because they don't want more coming into their country....and S. Koreans don't want the mass infiltration either....You free N.Korea and the people will run for all borders fast, they're starving!
Additionally it would take years to undo the mental damage done to these people, they see the world outside as the enemy so just how are you going to get themt o accept other nations coming in to help?.. and further what skills do they have which could be incorporated with any world organization effort?
No matter how it's done..if it can be done at all...it's going to have to go less than slow. I tend to believe neither S.Korea nor China want to do more than they are already doing.
I agree....Additionally the Chinese people don't want the Koreans flooding in....the N. Koreans have been living in the 50's not to mention the minds of the people have been wired for trauma dn abuse for generations now. To say they are backward is a vast understatement.
Possibly the younger citizens could adapt...but all the videos I've listened to it takes deprogramming and allot of time even for the young people to get unwired.
Kind of like a Louisiana Purchase.
The North North Korea South North Korea South Korea Purchase.
It sings! History will love it!
Culture plays a large role -- yes, language can't be divorced from culture completely, but English culture and even the language the Brits use is slightly different from Americanisms or Aussies.
Germany speaks Standard German (officially) which is quite different from the Austrian dialect -- which is closer to the dialects spoken in Bavaria (Bayern), Swabia and in Switzerland's cantons. Northern Germans in fact tell me they can't understand the accents, intonations or even words used in southern Germany.
Also, Austrian culture is quite different from northern German -- but then even Bavarian culture is different from northern German culture.
The Vietnamese are ethnically related to the Chinese. They are also culturally related to the Chinese and have been for thousands of years. They were chased out of what is now southern China by the han Chinese
The Cham people on the other hand were Polynesian/Malay and spoke a Malay language related to the languages of the Filipines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Polynesia etc.
These people were culturally and religiously Indian -- they were Hindus first, then with Buddhist influences (both coming from India) and then Moslem (again coming from India).
the Chinese in terms of "1000 years of history there" if they mean Chinese people, then they are correct -- Chinese traders etc.
if they mean politically then it is murky -- the Han Chinese never ruled their, the Dai Viet kings just paid tribute -- but remember that to the Chinese until the Opium Wars, ALL trade imports were "tribute" and all trade exports were "gifts"...
Thanks gleeaikin and Cronos.
Well, I am shakey on Far-East (Korea, China, Japan) history, but am pretty sure about S-E Asia history. The han Chinese have no claim over Vietnam any more than they have claim over Tibet — both gave tribute and the Tibetans gave it to the Mongol Yuan dynasty.
I thought about adding "korea" as a keyword but why screw up the thread?
Yeah, right - who gets the nukes?
Israel, “delivered” via Iran ...
Which is not all that different from my experience talking to some American southerners.
The earlier belief was that Chinese culture in that particular area had arrived as Northern Chinese moved South. Instead the people in the South developed improved boats AND learned to raise wheat on their islands (as the land raises and subsides quite a bit in that area).
Which side would take custody of the light bulb?
Thanks to you both for pings. Interesting thread. China’s puppet (N. Korea) continues in the age of their darkness.
What happened when the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain came down? It has taken a number of years to accommodate that change.
The smaller one can be called -mini-me!
It's times like this that I really wish we had a Facebook-style "Like" button on FR posts.
That would be small compared to dealing with the mindset of N.Koreans who are so completely brainwashed.....one does wonder though if 'some' might just not have swallowed the nonsense and just waiting for the leadership change to oppose them.....
The problem is communication is so very dangerous as family memebers watch each other as much as the police do. There is little if any trust elements possible.
How about East North Korea and West North Korea.
See Yellow Sea, a SK film from last year that opened around USA two weeks ago. The first segments were filmed in Yanbian.
And how about the Germans after WWII? It took seven years for the US forces to get rid of the Nazi sympathizers who were committing acts of guerrilla warfare them. Plus the country had been obliterated by the bombing during the war.