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Rick Perry making modest gains in Iowa
Boston Herald ^ | December 20, 2011 | Dave Montgomery

Posted on 12/20/2011 7:20:23 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

..Fueled by a bigger pile of campaign donations than most of his rivals, Perry is blitzing Iowa in a 42-town bus tour that enables him to personally deliver his campaign message and capitalize on his skills at retail politics. Team Perry is also saturating the state with radio and TV ads and plans to import hundreds of Texans, including Republican state officials and pro-Perry lawmakers, to woo caucus-goers.

"We’re certainly hearing his name a lot with radio and TV commercials, probably a lot more than the other candidates," said Dr. Bill Davidson of Bettendorf in eastern Iowa. "I like the commercials, particularly the one about his not being afraid to speak about his faith."

Davidson said last week that he is undecided but is likely to vote for Perry or former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.

"Those are my two guys," he said. "It may come right down to caucus day."

Craig Robinson, a former political director for the Iowa Republican Party, said that Perry’s wall-to-wall campaigning appears to be giving him a bit of a boost. "I think people are starting to give him a second look," said Robinson, who is founder and editor-in-chief of The Iowa Republican, a political website. "His bus tour is good for him, and I think it will help him."

...In one silver-lining aspect in his fall from the top, Perry has escaped the harsh scrutiny that falls on front-runners, giving him more freedom to promote key themes. Robinson said a fellow Republican who approached him at a recent political event told him that he initially supported Perry, then switched his allegiance to Gingrich and is now back to supporting the Texas governor.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


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1 posted on 12/20/2011 7:20:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry is far from being out of the game...


2 posted on 12/20/2011 7:25:31 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: isthisnickcool; shield

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

The latest from RCP national average.

Paul’s begun to slide.

Perry is trending up.


3 posted on 12/20/2011 7:27:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; jonrick46; deepbluesea; TexMom7; potlatch; SunkenCiv; wolfcreek; BuckeyeTexan; ...
Perry Ping....

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4 posted on 12/20/2011 7:31:07 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: All

Perry is saving the pretzels for the gas jets!


5 posted on 12/20/2011 7:32:34 AM PST by PizzaTheHut
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To: isthisnickcool

If he drops his opposition to illegal immigration enforcement, call me again.

Otherwise, i like him. He is also publicly opposing ethanol subsidies unlike our ethanol lobby prostitute. In IA that is courageous and principled conservative stand. I prefer Perry over Mr. Amnesty.


6 posted on 12/20/2011 7:33:12 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: isthisnickcool

I think no one is out of the game, with the exception of Huntsman. This thing can go anywhere.


7 posted on 12/20/2011 7:34:44 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Go Perry!Go Bachmann!Go Santorum!

Perry/Bolton

Perry/Bachmann

Perry will be the last one standing.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 7:37:16 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: heiss
If he drops his opposition to illegal immigration enforcement, call me again.

Perry has been demanding enforcement; wants the border sealed; wants the cartels killed off; say's NO amnesty.

9 posted on 12/20/2011 7:37:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
ROFLMAO!

Perry has launched ahead by 3 tenths if a Percent! Now that's some serious “trending” there Tonto!

And Newt is down a whopping 3 points in spite of the MSM’s best effort to take him down with bogus Polling propaganda.

Newt is also planning on hitting 45 Iowa Towns with a bus tour over the week end.

Perry can spend millions (And is) but his pathetic campaign is still going nowhere. The man is permanently damaged. The sooner you learn to accept that and go on, the sooner you can get back into the real world.

10 posted on 12/20/2011 7:43:51 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, everybody including Obama say that they want to secure the border, so it does not mean anything.

I know there are few proven enforcement tools:
1: e-verify
2: fence
3: strict state laws, like those in AL, AZ

He is against all of them. Instead, he supports tax subsidies for illegals and has been in touch with hate group La Raza. Imaginary wall is the non-solution supported by all amnesty activists since they know it does not work and besides, future admins can end it anytime.


11 posted on 12/20/2011 7:45:11 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What are you going to do when Rick is done? Go back to watching The View?

You may end up having to see a shrink - your obsession with failure may lead to feelings you won't be able to reconcile (shock, anger, depression, sadness.)


12 posted on 12/20/2011 7:46:16 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Perry is still better than Newt. At least Perry is publicly against amnesty and big gov initiatives.

Too bad for Perry. Without La Raza policies he would be leading and I would be his most loyal fan.


13 posted on 12/20/2011 7:48:47 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

14 posted on 12/20/2011 7:49:03 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Perry is simply vacillating within his margin for error. Between yesterday and today he even dropped 0.4. Some people are desperately grasping for anything they can hold onto. Rather sad.
15 posted on 12/20/2011 7:50:10 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I got two weeks to decide, and between Perry and Gingrich I’m probably going to go with Perry.


16 posted on 12/20/2011 7:57:45 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: AdamBomb

I don’t watch The View.

You inspire me AB.


17 posted on 12/20/2011 7:59:31 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
After seeing all the candidates I don't agree with any one of them 100%. But Perry seems the most electable and I can even overlook his immigration stance for a victory over what we have now.
18 posted on 12/20/2011 8:02:56 AM PST by THE_RAIDER (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot.)
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To: heiss

Other than TX in-state tuition rates, what has he done other than fight to keep the border secure?


19 posted on 12/20/2011 8:06:55 AM PST by Kenny
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To: heiss
... know there are few proven enforcement tools: 1: e-verify 2: fence 3: strict state laws, like those in AL, AZ He is against all of them. Instead, he supports tax subsidies for illegals and has been in touch with hate group La Raza. Imaginary wall is the non-solution supported by all amnesty activists since they know it does not work and besides, future admins can end it anytime.

Posting lies doesn't help the conversation.

Gov. Perry supports states having the right to enact laws to combat illegal immigration. He knows that until something is done on the federal level, filing lawsuits will only cost the states legal fees. Perry and the state of Texas (along with other states) have filed with the court to support the AZ law.

Perry has always supported strategic fencing in urban areas as well as surveillance and lots of boots on the ground.

Rick Perry on E-verify:

"I agree that some kind of electronic verification system is needed so we can make sure employers comply with the law not to hire illegal immigrants. E-Verify is a federal government created and run program, and as a result there have been a number of problems with it so far. The Department of Homeland Security estimated the system could fail to identify more than half of all illegal immigrants.

But just because it has problems doesn’t mean we should throw employee verification out. It means we should make it work. Employee verification needs to be accurate so American citizens aren’t denied jobs based on bad data and undocumented immigrants don’t slip through the system. And it needs to be less cumbersome for employers to use, so it’s not costing them money they could be using to create jobs.

So as president, I’d work to put in place an E-Verify system that’s more accurate, less burdensome and really delivers the results we need it to." "

20 posted on 12/20/2011 8:07:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for posting this. Perry has apologized often and profusely for his “heartless” comment; I accept his apologies and move on, certain that he is a solid Constitutional conservative with a decade-long record of leadership. And I love his promise that he will have the border sealed within a year.

As for Newt, I find him far too untrustworthy. When Hannity asked him about his support for cap and trade, he replied that he now “wouldn’t go QUITE that far” to combat global warming. That, along with his new book about manmade global warming (coming out AFTER the election), is fully enough to disqualify him, IMO. Anyone who supports that mess will help to bankrupt the country. Perry, OTOH, has called it what it is-—a hoax.


21 posted on 12/20/2011 8:08:19 AM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: THE_RAIDER

Glad to hear it because Gov. Perry has a strong, conservative stand against illegal immigration.


22 posted on 12/20/2011 8:08:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Free Vulcan

BUMP!


23 posted on 12/20/2011 8:11:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: CatherineofAragon

To me that should be the deal breaker for conservatives.

TRUST.

You can’t trust Newt.


24 posted on 12/20/2011 8:13:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ok, that sounds a bit better. maybe I need to check him again. I just remembered his few public comments when he entered the race and my recollection was that he opposed both fence and e-verify. He did not push az like state laws in TX, a gop state, so I took it as an opposition.

If he really is committed to enforcement he would be a great candidate. I’m not too worried about debates.


25 posted on 12/20/2011 8:13:19 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I have to disagree that he has a conservative stance on immigration I think he's trying to play both sides right now. Maybe Perry/Bachmann ticket or Santorum.
26 posted on 12/20/2011 8:14:14 AM PST by THE_RAIDER (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I could easily support Perry or Bachman, or Santorum.


27 posted on 12/20/2011 8:14:57 AM PST by Obadiah (If U don't believe you can win, then there is no point in getting out of bed at the end of the day.)
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To: heiss
Too bad for Perry. Without La Raza policies he would be leading and I would be his most loyal fan.

Nice turd -- but it's fake.

Gov Rick Perry spoke to LaRaza about the drug cartels, shared responsibility of border security and that it is Washington's responsibility to secure the border -- that the Federal government should support the military, deliver the mail and secure the border -- and they aren't doing their job. [HE RECEIVED a lot of applause] He spoke of the money Texas spends securing the border, that it must be sealed and then we can sustain legitimate commerce...He told about protecting the sanctity of the vote and strengthening our shared values, family, faith, hard work -- they are TEXAS values and we should unite as citizen's of one Nation under God and concentrate on what unites us. He told his Cuervo joke and they found it funny unlike the Liberal Latino Leaders Give Perry Lukewarm Response (or more likely they'd heard it before).

28 posted on 12/20/2011 8:15:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: THE_RAIDER

Then you need to make your case for saying that.


29 posted on 12/20/2011 8:16:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Same ol’ same ol’ from the anti-Perrys...right down to the DNC talking points...


30 posted on 12/20/2011 8:17:02 AM PST by magritte
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“To me that should be the deal breaker for conservatives.
TRUST.
You can’t trust Newt.”

Exactly. How soon conservatives (convince themselves to) forget.


31 posted on 12/20/2011 8:17:06 AM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: Free Vulcan

I am leaning towards casting my vote in the caucus to Perry, trying to get myself used to it. Like you said, we have 2 weeks. Just this morning I thought ‘maybe I will just write-in Palin’...first time in a long time my heart felt good when thinking about this upcoming caucus...


32 posted on 12/20/2011 8:17:28 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Hope you are still laughing when this is all in the history books. Nobody knows for sure.


33 posted on 12/20/2011 8:19:19 AM PST by maxter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think the RCP numbers at this time are pretty well meaningless. Pay attention to Iowa because Iowa is the only one really paying attention right now. Everyone else is more concerned with bowl games and Christmas shopping.

If Perry takes care of business in Iowa then everything else will follow. Right now his Iowa numbers are moving in the right direction.


34 posted on 12/20/2011 8:23:54 AM PST by bereanway
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I am a voter holding my nose a little to cast a vote for Perry. It's not up to me to make the case for Perry on his illegal immigration stances it's Perry's responsibility to make the case to the voter. By the looks of the polling his problem is he hasn't made that case very clear.
35 posted on 12/20/2011 8:24:41 AM PST by THE_RAIDER (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot.)
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To: magritte

“Right down to the DNC talking points.”

But voters are starting to look at the facts.

The ugly spectre of FOX News freezing out Perry has them scratching their heads and wondering why.


36 posted on 12/20/2011 8:25:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: heiss

I wish people would get over the notion that Perry is against illegal immigration enforcement. He tried hard to shut down sanctuary cities, even called a special session.

Sheriff Joe has endorsed him and you know how he feels about illegals.


37 posted on 12/20/2011 8:26:30 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: bereanway

A lot of truth to that.


38 posted on 12/20/2011 8:27:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

You’re always good for a laugh, Psycho.

hahahahahah


39 posted on 12/20/2011 8:27:48 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: AdamBomb

Haven’t seen you post before. Have you been lurking?

Why do you choose to make a sarcastic personal remark to CW?

We’re talking about the future president here.


40 posted on 12/20/2011 8:30:07 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

I have thought of writing in Cain or Palin as a protest, but then I thought, no, this is a serious election and there is no luxury for that.

Do I like Perry’s in-state tuition deal and the Guardasil thing? No, I don’t. Looking at his record v. Gingrich, not just what is said, I have to go with Perry. There is too much of a lack of mental discipline and poor leadership in Gingrich’s past.

Santorum and Bachmann are great conservatives, but Bachmann and Santorum have serious character issues in the way they’ve conducted themselves in this process. That and Santorum has no gravitas.

Romney and Huntsman are out from the start.

Perry to me is a solid B candidate that is the best of conservatism, ability to raise money and electibility of the hand we’re dealt.

That’s my logic process on this.


41 posted on 12/20/2011 8:32:32 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: heiss

Thank you, heiss.

You actually read and considered the post CW made about Perry’s true feelings and statements about the immigration problem.

A lot of people don’t bother to do that but just cling to their pre-conceived notions.

Kudos to you !


42 posted on 12/20/2011 8:33:16 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

Yep, but it is Perry’s job to educate. Everybody knows where Bachmann and Newt stand, but Perry has been confusing. When he entered, he defended tax subsidies for illegals and clearly opposed fence and e-verify. He said those himself. So you can’t really blame voters for thinking he is pro-illegal. Maybe he changed his opinion on everify (still opposed to fence i believe) or he meant to have stricter version of everify, I don’t know

His communication sucks.

Anyway, I like him more now. Better than NewtRomney. Either Perry or Bachmann, maybe Santorum.


43 posted on 12/20/2011 8:34:32 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ll vote for Rick if he makes it to the Texas primary and I’d vote for him over Obama.

If Newt or Romney are the nominee I’ll leave the Presidential field blank. I’ll just have to hope we can take the Senate and usher in gridlock again.


44 posted on 12/20/2011 8:36:21 AM PST by ChuckHam
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Perry is simply vacillating within his margin for error. Between yesterday and today he even dropped 0.4. Some people are desperately grasping for anything they can hold onto. Rather sad.

What's even sadder is everyone believing they can't vote for the candidate they want if everyone else isn't supporting said candidate. These polls are ruining our country because the people are now a collective group being driven by the numbers instead of the candidate.

45 posted on 12/20/2011 8:36:39 AM PST by Kenny
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To: heiss
If he drops his opposition to illegal immigration enforcement, call me again.

Why the heck you think he's opposed to illegal immigration enforcement? His policies in trying to deal with the existing mess aren't much different from anybody else in the race.

Even Cain was talking 10th Amendment before he dropped out.

Perry has gotten Sheriff Arpaio's endorsement, for Pete's sake.

46 posted on 12/20/2011 8:36:40 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry (or Gingrich maybe))
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To: heiss

Keep listening. Perry doesn’t have time in debates to explain all those theories you mentioned.

He has explained them in other venues. You might consider going to his website to see some of his positions.

He’s never supported subsidies to illegals. That is a complicated issue that actually dates back to Newt Gingrich’s time in Congress when a law was passed that children of illegals born in the US were eligible for certain benefits. It’s not just in Texas.

If you are talking about the in-state tuition thing, I can explain it if you’re interested.

As far as the fence goes, Perry is more familiar with the Texas border than any candidate possibly could be. Because of the length and terrain of the border, you can’t just say, ‘build a fence,’ and he’s fully aware of that. It’s gonna require some advanced thinking and technology to close that thing, but he says he’ll do it in a year if elected and I believe him.

CW’s post gave a quote of his feelings about e-verify. It’s pretty plain that he is not opposed to it at all.


47 posted on 12/20/2011 8:43:33 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I need to call Fox News again today and give them a piece of my mind.

A small piece... I need to have a little left.


48 posted on 12/20/2011 8:44:51 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: heiss; Cincinatus' Wife

“La Raza policies”

Congrats for having the most cliche ridden, bumper sticker quality, mind numbed, false sloganeering on this thread so far.

It doesn’t illuminate what Perry has done in real life to secure the border, it doesn’t illuminate his plan to secure it, once and for all, within one year, as President.

It covers up the truth with ridiculous words.

Fortunately, we are here, too.

We elucidate and we illuminate.

Words are terrific tools, when used for truth and good.


49 posted on 12/20/2011 8:45:14 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: altura
You fail to realize that I was one of the original Perry supporters here. Then, I stated to research everything I could about the man.

I like the fact that he served his country honorably, but faltered in that belief by being a Democrat. I over looked his faults on Immigration, etc, but I still supported him and took a great deal of flak for it.

But then, I started watching him speak, “debate” (Oxymoron) and read his writings. I came away feeling that there was a huge void in the image of Rick Perry. All of his speeches seem to lack something. He fails to inspire. He also sounds somewhat limited in intellectual scope. He tries to exude that, but he is just not capable of it.

In short, I came the the conclusion that Perry is trying desperately to be someone he clearly is not. He lacks Presidential Gravitas, intellect and insight. He is a good man, don't get me wrong, but he will not make a good President and he certainly has no chance of winning against Obama.

No other way to put it. Don't even try to convince me otherwise. I see what I see and Perry is what he is.

50 posted on 12/20/2011 8:47:29 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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