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Iowa “establishment” in a Ron Paul “panic”?
Hot Air ^ | 12/20/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/20/2011 8:22:20 AM PST by TBBT

The dawning realization of what a Ron Paul win in the Iowa caucuses would mean for Republicans, Iowa, and the caucuses has apparently begun to dawn on Iowa Republicans. Politico calls this a “Ron Paul panic,” but it’s actually a bit of an existential crisis:

*snip*

The dawning realization of what a Ron Paul win in the Iowa caucuses would mean for Republicans, Iowa, and the caucuses has apparently begun to dawn on Iowa Republicans. Politico calls this a “Ron Paul panic,” but it’s actually a bit of an existential crisis:

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ia; paul
Paul has got to go.

Open primaries/caucuses should go with him.

1 posted on 12/20/2011 8:22:29 AM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

Yesterday there was a post showing how the Paul camp was actively recruiting Democrats to vote for him.

Considering they don’t have a primary battle to deal with on their own, they are fighting it by trying to crap all over the Republican primary.


2 posted on 12/20/2011 8:25:13 AM PST by mnehring
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To: TBBT
So there is something wrong with the process if they don't get to control the outcome.

Tells you a lot.

PS - I am not a Paultard. I just consider the entire caucus/primary process to be corrupt. I say have national runoffs until somebody gets 50% of the vote.

3 posted on 12/20/2011 8:25:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: TBBT

Cut and Run has been spending tons of money slinging mud at Newt. I wonder if he will have enough left to buy the amount of dope it is going to take to keep the potheads there until the voting begins.


4 posted on 12/20/2011 8:26:19 AM PST by John D
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To: TBBT

How soon people forget.

“G.H.W. Bush wins 1979 Iowa Caucus”.


5 posted on 12/20/2011 8:28:04 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So there is something wrong with the process if they don't get to control the outcome.

No...there's something wrong with the process when it can be gamed by one candidate who actively recruits people hostile to the party in question to vote in that party's caucus for the purpose of distorting the outcome.

6 posted on 12/20/2011 8:30:53 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Bigh4u2

Most paulbots were not around in 1979.


7 posted on 12/20/2011 8:31:55 AM PST by John D
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To: Yashcheritsiy

You agreed with me by disagreeing with me. Wow.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 8:33:52 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: TBBT

WTH, if it’s in the cards, Dr Paul will prevail, if not.....we all lose...

semper Watching!
*****


9 posted on 12/20/2011 8:34:05 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: mnehring

That’s exactly how Juan McLame got the parties nomination last go around.


10 posted on 12/20/2011 8:35:07 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Bigh4u2

ACTUALLY it was the 1980 Iowa Caucus(I was there/Where YOU)!


11 posted on 12/20/2011 8:39:51 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: John D

No but the BushBots were.


12 posted on 12/20/2011 8:40:48 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Joe Boucher
That’s exactly how Juan McLame got the parties nomination last go around.

Cut and Run could never win an election without the anti-American and dimwit vote.
13 posted on 12/20/2011 8:41:50 AM PST by John D
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I'm not a paulbot either, but I can see, in fact to me it is obvious, the more the elitists in the R part and the media promote and elevate RINO’s, the further they push the rebellious to Paul. Their insistence on writing him off, calling him nuts and a kook, saying his climb in the polls means nothing, nor would a win in Iowa, is causing a lot of young people to dig in their heels, determined they will not help to destroy the Constitution or ever vote for a RINO again. So as I see it, the party is thrusting them into Pauls arms so to speak.
14 posted on 12/20/2011 8:42:31 AM PST by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TBBT

I find it interesting that the Hacker group has issued a “warning” that they will hack the primary votes.

That would cause a mess.

I suspect many of the paulistas are just troll bashing candidats since ron paul has no credibility.


15 posted on 12/20/2011 8:46:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: gidget7

kook paul is a dimwit regardless of location on the polls.


16 posted on 12/20/2011 8:48:50 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yeah. I know.

But the ‘edit’ function doesn’t work, so I thought I’d just wait until someone ‘corrected’ me to respond.

And actually, no, I wasn’t.

Glad for you if you were.


17 posted on 12/20/2011 8:50:59 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: longtermmemmory

Whether or not that is true, I feel the R party is thrusting the paulbots toward Paul. Perhaps they should stop promoting big govt. progressives in elections, and nominate conservatives. Then young folks might just come around to a more rational position. That is what gave us McCain.


18 posted on 12/20/2011 8:53:13 AM PST by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Bigh4u2

I, in 1980 Caucused for Ronald Reagan in Ogden(Boone County) Iowa! DAMN PROUD OF IT TOO!


19 posted on 12/20/2011 8:53:43 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Remember when Republicans voted for Hillary in the 08 primaries?


20 posted on 12/20/2011 8:57:25 AM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Remember when Republicans voted for Hillary in the 08 primaries?


21 posted on 12/20/2011 8:57:39 AM PST by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: US Navy Vet

“I, in 1980 Caucused for Ronald Reagan”

Somehow, I knew that.. :0)

Good choice.

I didn’t even know what a ‘caucus’ was back in 1980.

I never got interested in politics until 2001.


22 posted on 12/20/2011 9:04:51 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: TBBT
The dawning realization of what a Ron Paul win in the Iowa caucuses would mean for Republicans, Iowa, and the caucuses has apparently begun to dawn on Iowa Republicans.

If the Paulistinians win in Iowa, it will merely erase any malingering credibility given to the IA caucuses. But they're pretty circling the bowl already.

23 posted on 12/20/2011 9:06:41 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: TBBT

First, Republicans in all states should move to a closed primary system. If you’re not registered as a Republican by, say, 60 days before an election, then you don’t get to help pick the GOP candidates. It really should be that simple. It’s absolutely insane to allow members of the other parties choose a party’s candidates, and that goes for Dems too.

Second, Iowa is a caucus state. As such, they caucus, and debate, on the night that they vote. Arguments such as this will no doubt be made, and made effectively, by supporters of the other candidates. People unaware of Paul’s history will be made aware of it that night, and the concern of making the Iowa caucus a joke will also be heard.

And, in Iowa, people are likely to know their neighbors and their political leanings. It will take some serious guts for a known Democrat to show up at a meeting populated with hundreds of his/her Republican neighbors, intending to screw with them. For these reasons, I suspect Paul’s support will drop significantly before the vote is taken.

However, in open primary states, like Wisconsin, crossovers will be frequent, and this year the Democrats are bound to mess with the GOP. All they have to do is show up and pick the right ballot, all in secret, so nothing discourages them from doing so. Republicans need to change this process, for the good of the party.


24 posted on 12/20/2011 9:13:04 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

You sent me to the dictionary. I did not know what ‘malinger’ meant.

“ma·lin·ger (m-lnggr)
intr.v. ma·lin·gered, ma·lin·ger·ing, ma·lin·gers
To feign illness or other incapacity in order to avoid duty or work.”

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/malingering


25 posted on 12/20/2011 9:14:19 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: TBBT

Why did you post the same paragraph twice?


26 posted on 12/20/2011 9:45:53 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: TBBT

I am not a Paul supporter.

BUT . . .

If Paul wins Iowa (which he might well do), and Romney finishes in fourth or so (a real possibility), it really makes it clea that Romney is unwanted in the heartland.


27 posted on 12/20/2011 9:46:16 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I can’t stand Paul, but it would be hilarious if Dems and PaulBots crashed New Hampshire and gave him a massive victory over Mittens.

If that happened, Romney would not survive South Carolina and Florida. He’d be dead in the water before the Super Bowl.


28 posted on 12/20/2011 9:53:48 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Mittt Romney - he lacks the courage of his absence of convictions .)
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To: Afronaut
Remember when Republicans voted for Hillary in the 08 primaries?

Yes, and I was against that, too.

29 posted on 12/20/2011 10:25:57 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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