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Delayed Texas primary could be a setback for Perry campaign
WNEP ^ | 12/17/11 | Jim Forsyth

Posted on 12/20/2011 8:31:22 AM PST by mylife

SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - A panel of three federal judges late on Friday approved a plan to delay the Texas primary elections from March 6 to April 3, a move that could be a blow to Republican Governor Rick Perry's presidential hopes.

A likely victory in Texas on March 6 would have given Perry a surge of momentum on Super Tuesday, when 10 other states are holding primaries or caucuses. Now, Texas's primary will be toward the end of the calendar.

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The delay came amid a series of legal challenges to the state's legislative and congressional redistricting maps. Groups representing minority voters have sued to block new districts drawn by the Republican majority in the legislature, saying the districts illegally dilute the voting strength of the state's growing Latino population.

The legal challenges have left candidates with no clear idea of the boundaries of the districts they would represent, making an early March primary impractical.

The proposal approved by the court in San Antonio was an agreement between the Texas Democratic Party and the Republican Party of Texas. The runoff election is set for June 5.

Separate primaries were also considered -- one on March 6 for the county-wide and statewide races not affected by redistricting, and a later one for state legislative and congressional races. But local officials protested the cost of two primaries.

The U.S. Supreme Court will hold a hearing in January on whether the same panel of three federal judges overstepped its authority by imposing congressional and legislative maps over the ones designed by the Legislature. A federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., also in January, will consider whether the Republican redistricting plan violates the Voting Rights Act of 1965. The Justice Department believes that it does.

Texas is one of a handful of states required to clear election changes with the Department of Justice, due to a pattern of minority vote suppression in the 1950s and 1960s.

"We are glad to have worked out an agreement which we feel works best for Texans," Texas Democratic Party Chairman Boyd Richie said. "Given the less than ideal circumstances, we think that this election schedule is a workable solution that will create the least confusion for the voters."

Republican Chairman Steve Munisteri agreed.

"We are hopeful that with both a timely ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court and subsequent finalized maps, that this agreement not only preserves the original structure of a unified primary, but provides us enough time to accomplish it in a fair and orderly fashion," Munisteri said.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bs; corruption; shenanigans; texasprimary
WTF? I just heard about this. So we get pushed back from Mar 6 to Apr 3 because some federal Judges say so?

What a load of crap!

1 posted on 12/20/2011 8:31:33 AM PST by mylife
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To: mylife

Sorry to hear that but I thought Perry wasn’t winning Texas anyway. I think it would be better for him not to have the primary early especially if he doesn’t win.


2 posted on 12/20/2011 8:37:11 AM PST by napscoordinator (Anybody but Romney, Newt, Perry, Huntsman, Paul. Perry and Obama are 100 percent the same!!!!!)
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To: mylife

I bet Mitt Bachmann’s fingerprints are all over this one.


3 posted on 12/20/2011 8:39:56 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

It’s Obama, but Mitt Bachmann wont take Texas.


4 posted on 12/20/2011 8:41:13 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

What the hell?


5 posted on 12/20/2011 8:42:55 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: All

Our election system is broken.


6 posted on 12/20/2011 8:44:25 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Texas is one of a handful of states required to clear election changes with the Department of Justice, due to a pattern of minority vote suppression in the 1950s and 1960s.

Boys and girls, wanna guess what party was in power in those states at that time?
7 posted on 12/20/2011 8:46:28 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Ironic isn’t it?


8 posted on 12/20/2011 8:47:16 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: wolfman23601

They are doing their best to ensure that the Texas primary has no sway in the process.
They want this wrapped up before we ever get to Texas.


9 posted on 12/20/2011 8:50:29 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
"They?"

I hope you buy aluminum foil in bulk...

10 posted on 12/20/2011 8:55:25 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: mylife
Funny how state's rights and their ability to do what's best for them is thrown around, only to find "political momentum" just turns them into lemmings.

They'll either vote for a candidate, or they won't. The date should be irrelevant.

11 posted on 12/20/2011 8:58:40 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: edpc

This could help....

After seeing the long fight between Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination in 2008, Republicans decided longer contests could pay dividends — that ‘08 campaign left behind a lot of activated and newly registered voters.

So the GOP changed the way some of its primaries work - states that hold events prior to April 1 were asked to award their delegates more proportionally, instead of winner-take-all. In theory, that opens more chances for second- and third- place candidates to get delegates, and perhaps hang in the race.

But how much might the new rules impact things? There’s a difference between a nomination that’s really contested for a while, and one that just takes longer for the leader to clinch. The latter is more a political question. In terms of the allocation math for 2012, the Vince Lombardi rule still holds: winning matters. Here’s why:

First: Even though a state may allocate its delegates “proportionally,” that doesn’t guarantee its delegate count will be close

Many of the “proportional” states still give better opportunities to the overall winner.

For example: In Georgia on Super Tuesday, some of the delegates are awarded based on the vote within the congressional districts (This is the case in many states). The winner in each district gets a minimum of two out of three of the district’s delegates just for winning it, and captures all three if he or she crosses 50 percent of that district’s vote.


12 posted on 12/20/2011 9:07:03 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Specifically 3 federal judges.


13 posted on 12/20/2011 9:08:29 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Why don’t we have one national primary day? I suppose that would be much more difficult for the candidates in terms of campaigning, but it would avoid the “momentum” issue.


14 posted on 12/20/2011 9:26:51 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Merry Christmas!)
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To: mylife
"Groups representing minorityillegal alien insurgent criminal invading colonist voters have sued to block new districts drawn by the Republican majority in the legislature, saying the districts illegally dilute the voting strength of the state's growing Latino illegal alien insurgent criminal invading colonist population.
The democrats are famous for gerrymandering districts to dilute Conservative participation.

But let Republicans do it?...not so much...That's illegal!

15 posted on 12/20/2011 9:27:49 AM PST by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: proud American in Canada

I find the entire process convoluted.


16 posted on 12/20/2011 9:32:54 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I agree. They have no business interfering. They either need to stop or step down from the bench and allow people who know how to do the job do it.


17 posted on 12/20/2011 9:54:44 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: mylife

I does not matter. Perry would not win Texas anyway. I am from Texas and Perry would not beat Newt here, or any of the more conservative candidates either.


18 posted on 12/20/2011 10:16:51 AM PST by david1313
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To: mylife

Poetic justice for La Raza Rick. I love it.


19 posted on 12/20/2011 10:21:42 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (If Newt Gingrich is a Reliable Conservative, Joe Biden is a member of MENSA)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yeah, the fed screwing with states is poetic justice.


20 posted on 12/20/2011 10:24:27 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Xavier Rodriguez is La Raza Rick’s creation. Time to own it.


21 posted on 12/20/2011 10:50:01 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (If Newt Gingrich is a Reliable Conservative, Joe Biden is a member of MENSA)
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To: mylife
WTF? I just heard about this. So we get pushed back from Mar 6 to Apr 3 because some federal Judges say so?

What a load of crap!


You really should read the articles you post, it states clearly that this was an agreement between the Democrats and Republicans, that was approved by the judges:

The proposal approved by the court in San Antonio was an agreement between the Texas Democratic Party and the Republican Party of Texas. The runoff election is set for June 5.

I'd like to hear who in the Republican Party of Texas agreed to this.
22 posted on 12/20/2011 1:52:22 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

It was all forced by the Federal judges who attacked our redistricting plan.


23 posted on 12/20/2011 1:55:41 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: af_vet_rr
The legal challenges have left candidates with no clear idea of the boundaries of the districts they would represent, making an early March primary impractical.

In other words, the feds drew this out in court to drag our primary to a stand still.

Then we had to compromise just to get the primary in Apr.

24 posted on 12/20/2011 2:10:43 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Xavier Rodriguez is La Raza Rick’s creation. Time to own it.”

No kidding...they’re compartmentalizing what’s going on. It reminds me the story that Rush used to talk about a lot, which involved two kids (Mendendez) killing their parents (in California) so they could cash in on their wealth. The jury acquitted them because the poor boys were already suffering by not having parents anymore.


25 posted on 12/20/2011 7:25:24 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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Isn’t that a hoot ? Note the lead flunkie in this thread talking about “federal judges” as if they’re some nameless, faceless creations of their own making. It ain’t just that Ricky created Xavier Rodriguez, but when XR was soundly rejected by Republican voters by an actual Conservative, he went out of his way to defeat that candidate, no matter how long it took. Ricky is a nasty piece of work, and so are his supporters.


26 posted on 12/20/2011 7:34:24 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (If Newt Gingrich is a Reliable Conservative, Joe Biden is a member of MENSA)
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