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Christopher Hitchens: Godlessness Is Not Great How Atheism Poisons Everything
The New American ^ | Monday, 19 December 2011 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 12/20/2011 9:15:48 AM PST by Paladins Prayer

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To: Notary Sojac

I know, I know. I have a bad case of Last Wordism, but I’m trying to get over it.


201 posted on 12/24/2011 8:54:47 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady; Notary Sojac; betty boop; All

Well I still mostly enjoyed our conversations A_Perfect_Lady.

Wouldn’t it be nice, if in the future, all us FReepers [only ‘preaching’ what I attempt to do myself too]
could be more vigilant trying to avoid 2 main things:

1 [above] No attacking the messenger(s), and
2 Labeling people according to their responses or beliefs.

Labeling / blaming Atheists, Christians, Fundamentalists, etc. leads to attacking the messenger - we need to just stop and realize we are all unique individuals and then refocus on the message.

I love finding the explanations for historical events and defending my faith and beliefs by continually looking to see how and where it fits in with my worldview.
I think most freepers no matter what their beliefs look to accomplish the same, I think it’s why at the end of the day we are all kfs: kindred ‘freeper’ spirits.

Peace to all kfs!


202 posted on 12/24/2011 9:57:46 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: Notary Sojac
This leads me to the conclusion that even if a Judeo-Christian culture is necessary for liberty to thrive, that culture is not in itself sufficient.

I agree with you there, Notary Sojac. Maybe we can flesh that out, after Christmas....

I hope and pray you and all your loved ones will have a merry, blessed Christmas!

203 posted on 12/24/2011 5:05:29 PM PST by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I didn’t try to bully you. Neither can I imagine anything that I would write would change your opinion. You asked me a couple questions and I did my best to respond to them.

Dismiss me and those who believe as I do if you like. But you can’t dismiss the truth and you do so at your own peril.

I hope you have a safe, healthy, and happy life. Merry Christmas.


204 posted on 12/25/2011 3:00:33 AM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: killermosquito
I didn’t try to bully you. (...) But you can’t dismiss the truth and you do so at your own peril.

And there it is. The eternal underlying message of all religions. It's not about love. It's not about compassion. It's about threats.

205 posted on 12/25/2011 5:07:53 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
The eternal underlying message of all religions. It's not about love. It's not about compassion. It's about threats.
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A natural consequence is not a threat.

If individuals and families live the Ten Commandments and apply the principles of the Gospel to their lives, they will be happier and far fewer self-created problems.

In this life behavior has consequences for the individual, the family, the community, and the nation. In the next life, if a person chooses to separate himself from God, then there will be consequences.

206 posted on 12/25/2011 5:18:32 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
By the way....Am I correct? Have I seen your name on the education threads defending our nation's socialist K-12 schools? ( Just wondering.)
207 posted on 12/25/2011 5:20:48 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I came on this thread to have a couple exchanges with other atheists. A believer addressed me and I was polite enough to answer.
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You are a “believer” too. Why?

Answer: You can not prove whether a God(s) exist or not.

A religiously neutral vacuum is impossible in any sentient being. Your atheistic worldview is built upon belief just as much as those who believe in God build their worldview on belief.

Oh...And I was right. You are a teacher in one of our nation's socialist-entitlement and godless worldview schools.

208 posted on 12/25/2011 5:35:41 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

If I am trying to persuade you to reconsider your atheism in order for you to avoid an unpleasant afterlife I think I am trying to show love and compassion.

In the words of Penn Jillette:

“How much do you have to hate somebody to not proselytize? How much do you have to hate someone to believe that everlasting life is possible and not tell them that?”


209 posted on 12/25/2011 5:00:30 PM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: killermosquito

The threat is in the religion. It’s embedded. You’re just the mouthpiece.


210 posted on 12/25/2011 5:46:50 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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