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Fast and Furious Update: Rep. Issa Tells Holder to Expect More Hearings
Big Government ^ | 12/20/11 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 12/20/2011 10:22:54 AM PST by Nachum

Late yesterday, House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa’s office sent me an email with a copy of a letter the Congressman had sent to Attorney General Eric Holder on December 15 — a letter to which the A.G. has yet to respond. In it, Issa informs Holder that the Committee would like him to appear for more testimony on January 24, 2012.

In other words, Fast and Furious isn’t going away any time soon.

Issa wrote:

The hearing will examine flaws in the management structure of the Justice Department as demonstrated in the genesis and implementation of ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious. Specifically, the hearing will focus on what senior Department officials could and should have done to put a stop to this reckless program, as well as the specific areas where failures in communication and management occurred.

(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hearings; holder; issa; obama
They are coming for you Eric: going to shine a light up your *ss. It's going to burn.
1 posted on 12/20/2011 10:23:03 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 12/20/2011 10:26:50 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Get him Darrell!


3 posted on 12/20/2011 10:29:51 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MestaMachine

Ping...ping...ping
Merry “holiday” to Holder from Issa:

“Issa informs Holder that the Committee would like him to appear for more testimony on January 24, 2012. “


4 posted on 12/20/2011 10:31:01 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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will examine flaws in the management structure of the Justice Department

Or how does this work: A field office can let thousands of guns walk across international borders on its own authority? Really?

5 posted on 12/20/2011 10:39:30 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: mylife

Just keep poking that hornet’s nest with a stick. They’ll get pissed off soon and screw up royally. Get the popcorn.


6 posted on 12/20/2011 10:40:16 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: Nachum

ISSA Bros


7 posted on 12/20/2011 10:46:10 AM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: Nachum

It’s all BS-theater until these boobs go to prison. I don’t expect that to happen. All show, no substance.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 10:47:54 AM PST by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: Nachum

ISSA, That’s all well and good. But don’t forget to find how who gave the orders to implement this fiasco. I believe you will have to subpeona obama’s cabinet to find that answer.


9 posted on 12/20/2011 10:48:52 AM PST by spawn44 (NSWWER)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...

Bangedy, bang, bang! Ping.


10 posted on 12/20/2011 10:49:18 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: D-fendr

“will examine flaws in the management structure of the Justice Department

Or how does this work: A field office can let thousands of guns walk across international borders on its own authority? Really? “

Needed to be repeated!


11 posted on 12/20/2011 10:50:59 AM PST by ConfidentConservative (I think, therefore I am conservative.)
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To: FrankR

Exactly. Issa is worse than worthless because he gave the impression he was actually going to do something. Another nutless wonder...


12 posted on 12/20/2011 10:52:09 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Nachum

Holder is delaying his case till the election, hoping YObama will win. He calls us cowards and defies our laws knowing that if he goes down, so will YObama.


13 posted on 12/20/2011 11:07:10 AM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Nachum

What flaws in the process? Doesn’t Issa get it? F&F went as planned. The only flaw was that they got caught.


14 posted on 12/20/2011 11:08:08 AM PST by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: barack; obama; All
It’s all BS-theater until these boobs go to prison. I don’t expect that to happen. All show, no substance.

Who's going to indict them...God?

(er...Obama?)

15 posted on 12/20/2011 11:14:20 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Nachum

No, it is not. Issa is playing for the cameras. He knows nothing will come of this. If there was to be anything there is plenty of evidence already to make charges stick.


16 posted on 12/20/2011 11:19:57 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Nachum

Hearings can go on forever without any action. Time to round them all up with a one way ticket to Levenworth.


17 posted on 12/20/2011 11:21:45 AM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: mylife

And it doesn’t have one durn ting about Eric Holer -or his bunk buddy Obummer being black. It has everything with a stupid plan to destroy the second amendment rights that got people dead.Oh and there was no typo in the names.


18 posted on 12/20/2011 11:24:31 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: StonyBurk

No one ever said it had a thing to do with race.
It has to do with breaking the law and to do with trying to set the stage for gun confiscation.
It has to do with Dead Americans and Mexican nationals for political gain.

Has the Justice dept ever proved that they got approval to move those guns to Mexico from the state dept?

The state dept says they have no record that the justice dept applied for an export license.
Ergo... they broke the law.


19 posted on 12/20/2011 11:33:31 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: paulcissa; ROCKLOBSTER; Nachum
It’s all BS-theater until these boobs go to prison. I don’t expect that to happen. All show, no substance.

LOL. What an infantile understanding of law, the world, or anything.

What runs your world? The "Shazam" Fairy?

Houses just appear at the swing of a wand?

paulcissa: "Until I'm sitting my fatass on the couch watching TV, all this "concrete pouring" and "framing" and "wiring" and "plumbing" and "Drywall" and "painting" and "carpet laying" and such is all show, no substance."

20 posted on 12/20/2011 11:45:29 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Nachum
Darrell Issa’s office sent me an email with a copy of a letter

OH NOES, not the Angry Letter! How severe is that??

21 posted on 12/20/2011 11:58:54 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: CodeToad

I have another theory about this. I think Issa has a lot more than anyone knows but he’s waiting until it gets closer to the election to drop the hammer. Less time for Obama to react. Can we say “October Surprise”?


22 posted on 12/20/2011 12:09:04 PM PST by technically right
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To: Nachum

Oh, bull; he, just like SlickWillie, will let them talk themselves into a state of mastubatory multi-orgasm. These creeps are all teflon coated. This ‘big bad hearing’ will be lost in obscurity, and the whole damned bunch will skate into obscurity while Joe Arpaio goes into the fire for covering the collective Southwestern U.S. a$$. Anyone caught voting for a Democrat candidate for anything should be deported. LayLowO CANNOT be re-elected, at any cost.


23 posted on 12/20/2011 12:15:49 PM PST by arrdon
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To: technically right

These type of information attacks rarely do much good. The ONLY thing that does good is an arrest or impeachment.


24 posted on 12/20/2011 12:20:40 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Nachum

Holder: “They’re pickin’ on me ‘cause I’m black”


25 posted on 12/20/2011 12:28:36 PM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: mylife

No reasonable person ever said it had anything to do with race. But Eric Holder has said the only reason anybody is attacking him or Obama is because they hate black men.


26 posted on 12/20/2011 1:52:12 PM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: sam_paine
Bingo! Way to nail the hand-wringers. If it weren't for Issa and Grassley we wouldn't know 99% of what we now know about F&F. There isn't much doubt that what they have released so far is just the tip of the iceberg re what they have too.

Here is something that was just leaked to the public domain that cinches up the noose quite a bit.

Interesting new ATF internal document generated the day before the 4 February "withdrawn" (lying)

Several people are painted into corners from which there is no escape other than full disclosure for immunity.

27 posted on 12/20/2011 1:58:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Nachum
Issa informs Holder that the Committee would like him to appear for more testimony on January 24, 2012

Will CSPAN carry the hearings?

28 posted on 12/20/2011 2:49:33 PM PST by EllenMarie (God bless Vietnam Heroes!)
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To: Nachum

Issa needs to confine the questioning to only F&F concerns otherwise all the Dems on the committee will use their time to change the subject and praise Holder.


29 posted on 12/20/2011 3:08:05 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Nachum


30 posted on 12/20/2011 3:35:47 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Nachum

Even if they shined a searchlight up Holder’s ass, they will never find a brain, a conscience, or brotherly-love.

THey might find a copy of the Black Reparationist’s manual, the teaching of James Cone and Charles Ogltree, Das Kapital, and the selected quotes of Louis Farrakhan.


31 posted on 12/20/2011 4:29:15 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: technically right

Issa is doing a “Death by a thousand cuts” on Holder, Brauer, and eventually Obama. He can stretch the hearings out for months, or even years, each time revealing more about the Fast & Furious fiasco, plus collateral operations and screw-ups.

This keeps the spotlight on Holder, DOJ, Obama, ICE, ATF, etc.

Any major expose’ at the time of the Democratic Convention would be a kick in the balls of Obama and the Demonrats.

Timing is everything.


32 posted on 12/20/2011 4:34:31 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Nachum

We need many more with Issa’s determination and spirit!


33 posted on 12/20/2011 5:51:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: sam_paine

THANK YOU!!!!!


34 posted on 12/20/2011 5:52:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: MestaMachine

bttt


35 posted on 12/20/2011 5:57:14 PM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: technically right

You are correct.

Except....... August Surprise, September surprise October surprise.

The real bombs will explode after the Democrat Convention


36 posted on 12/20/2011 5:57:50 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: technically right

You might very well be correct.


37 posted on 12/20/2011 5:59:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Nachum

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/


38 posted on 12/20/2011 7:13:45 PM PST by gaijin
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To: InterceptPoint

>What flaws in the process? Doesn’t Issa get it? F&F went as planned. The only flaw was that they got caught.<

They never expected that ATF agents would go to congress and rat them out. They figured that they could intimidate and control them like they are the FBI agents who have yet to come forward.


39 posted on 12/20/2011 7:15:17 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: CodeToad

>No, it is not. Issa is playing for the cameras. He knows nothing will come of this. If there was to be anything there is plenty of evidence already to make charges stick.<

There is enough evidence on Holder yes. But if you have followed really close what has happened. Last week Issa asked him at what level does holder have to sign off on things. Did sending guns across the boarder to another country demand his signature?

He is pushing the international angel now and treaties being broken. He also went after personal e-mails in the last few weeks.

They are trying to get Obama wrapped up in all of this as well showing that he had knowledge and authorized this. THEN they will do something, hopefully with the support of a republican controlled senate and congress.


40 posted on 12/20/2011 7:18:53 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Nachum

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/david-codrea


41 posted on 12/20/2011 7:20:23 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Nachum

Men who would smuggle 3,000 military guns to Mexican drug-traffickers:

—>Would they also have any problem with, say, blowing up a federal building?<—

A famous rich slob created a small, insane cottage-industry by asking that of the World Trade Center —I’ve never gone in for any of that. I think they’re a little nuts.

And so now I think it sounds crazy to ask the question, but you know what? A year ago I would also have deemed it crazy, simply to ponder if the ATF could get into the business of smuggling military weapons to drug-dealers.

And yet they DID.

But the more I think about OKC, the more I remember ATF agents alleging they’d been trapped in elevators that had dropped several stories, of heroically prying open the doors, etc —claims later show to be IMPOSSIBLE.

—>How many still think the federal government could not have had ANYTHING to do with OkBomb? The more I compare F&F to OkBomb, the more parallels I see. <—


42 posted on 12/20/2011 7:48:21 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Munz

If they are headed for Obama they had better realize that the Republicans didn’t go after Cinton when they had a perfect chance. I just don’t see them as an establishment, Issa excluded here, but as the RNC, I just don’t see them getting any guts and doing anything about it. They are about winning elections and gaining power and money as much as the Democrats and most couldn’t care less about this country.

If Issa proves me wrong and goes all the way I’ll be happy to buy him a dinner anywhere he wants.


43 posted on 12/20/2011 8:30:10 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad

>If they are headed for Obama they had better realize that the Republicans didn’t go after Cinton when they had a perfect chance.<

Clinton was lying to congress .. that was all that they had really. Yes it is a crime. It is even a felony. But this is not even in the same category. This is bigger than Iran Contra. This is bigger than Watergate.

This is arming terrorists.
This is shipping guns across boarders.
This is directly related to the murder of two United States federal Law Enforcement Officers, dozens of Mexican law Enforcement Oficers and hundreds of Mexican Civilians to date.

This is FAR and BEYOND simple lying to congress my FRiend.
Give Issa time to dot the “i”’s and cross the “t”’s and nail the coffin shut.


44 posted on 12/20/2011 9:33:39 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz
They are trying to get Obama wrapped up in all of this as well showing that he had knowledge and authorized this.

There may be a Hillary and a Janet wrapped up in there, too. (State/DHS)

45 posted on 12/21/2011 5:18:17 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: gaijin

The pattern is there. Dissapearing John Does, Blame the white guys, ignore possible islamic connections, Blame it all on ‘homegrown terrorism’, push to keep/increase gun control, and the emotional smokescreen that it was because of Waco which took some of the wind out of the sails of that investigation. Holder was US Attorney for DC at the time, and later Deputy AG under Janet Reno under Clinton, following Jamie Gorelick.


46 posted on 12/21/2011 5:28:10 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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