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Ron Paul Hates Republicans and Everything They Stand For
Redstate.com ^ | December 21, 2011 | Leon H. Wolf

Posted on 12/21/2011 11:15:36 AM PST by Kaslin

Most people already know that Ron Paul refused to endorse John McCain in the 2008 general election. While I don’t necessarily agree with that decision, especially from a contender for the GOP nominee, I can certainly understand it. Lord knows I hated every nice thing I had to say about John McCain and wasn’t entirely pleased about pulling the lever for him (which is a dramatic understatement). Most people assume that Paul endorsed Libertarian candidate Bob Barr in 2008, which is partially true. However, that is not the entire story. Paul also endorsed three other candidates.

The first of those was Chuck Baldwin. I don’t really know a lot about Baldwin except that he has been on record early and often in support of the proposition that the South should have won the Civil War. This sort of thing would ordinarily disqualify most normal people from endorsing Chuck Baldwin, but Ron Paul is not most normal people. And given what most Ron Paul supporters seem willing to forgive, a little Confederate sympathy (or even a lot of Confederate sympathy) seems like small potatoes.

The second was Cynthia McKinney. Yes, you read that correctly, Ron Paul endorsed Cynthia McKinney in 2008. For those who do not know, Cynthia McKinney is a certifiably insane anti-American anti-Semitic lunatic. She first came to widespread public attention when she was arrested for punching out a member of the capitol police who tried to stop her when she wasn’t wearing her pin. Cynthia McKinney is so crazy that she got defeated in a primary by a guy who thought Guam might tip over and capsize. McKinney was once arrested by the Israelis while trying to give aid to Hamas and penned a bizarre anti-American and anti-Israeli screed. See more of her anti-Americanism here.

Now, I know that the above is not necessarily persuasive to the average Ron Paul fan – after all, if they were bothered by siding with terrorists, they’d have probably jumped off the Paul bandwagon already. What is perhaps more important is that Cynthia McKinney is also next door to being a communist in terms of her domestic policy. McKinney is an open and avowed enemy of free market capitalism, preferring instead Ghadaffi-style socialism. Seriously, she literally and openly favors dictatorial socialism. McKinney ran on the Green Party ticket, whose platform explicitly includes guaranteed open-ended welfare (at a living wage) for everyone regardless of their ability or willingness to work, among other quasi-communist and far-left economic policies.

The fourth and final candidate Ron Paul endorsed for President was Ralph Nader. Yes, the same Ralph Nader who was so far to the left on economic matters that he could see no difference between Al Gore and George W. Bush. The same Ralph Nader who also longs for the day when the last vestiges of capitalism have died in America. Nader, you remember was the guy who made running as the Green Party candidate famous.

Why, you might ask, would Ron Paul, champion of economic freedom and limited government, endorse two avowed socialists for President? Well, you see, they signed a document:

Paul will offer this open endorsement to the four candidates because each has signed onto a policy statement that calls for “balancing budgets, bring troops home, personal liberties and investigating the Federal Reserve,” the Paul aide said.

You see, despite a lengthy and public history of supporting massive government expansion and infringement upon personal liberties, and despite running on a party platform that explicitly calls for the massive expansion of Government welfare, these people would clearly have been better at shrinking the government than the Republicans on the basis of signing this absurd pledge. To be fair, Paul was probably just following the Golden Rule here – after all, Paul had just spent the last two years being a truther in front of truthers and denying trutherism in front of the media, so he doubtless was extending the sort of blind eye towards Nader and McKinney’s insanity that he wished everyone else would turn towards his.

For whatever his failings as a Presidential candidate and conservative (and they were legion), no reasonable person would say that John McCain was worse than any of these clowns. It was one thing for Paul to not endorse McCain – but we have to ask what sort of person affirmatively supports anti-American avowed socialists and confederate sympathizers over a Republican? The answer: Someone who, like Howard Dean, hates Republicans and everything they stand for.


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1 posted on 12/21/2011 11:15:37 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Lunatics for Paul 2012


2 posted on 12/21/2011 11:20:07 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Kaslin

Democraps:

yes~! Paul is bad for the GOP!

Only “Mitt” should be your candidate

And we are so afraid of Mitt too- he could probably beat our guy Obama

So you should pick “Mitt”


3 posted on 12/21/2011 11:20:47 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Kaslin; All

Perhaps he endorsed Ralph Nadar so Gore would loose. ;-)


4 posted on 12/21/2011 11:23:15 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Kaslin

Brace yourselves!! you supporters of Constitutional Governance. These attacks on Ron Paul are only the beginning of what you must endure to achieve your goals.
Take heart, things are in motion that will be hard to stop. The folks in power are not going to relinquish that easily, you must expect a battle. The name calling and hysterics are only the beginning. Please let us all be brave


5 posted on 12/21/2011 11:27:44 AM PST by Kinzua (Are you ready to admit that electing Obama was a mistake?)
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To: Mr. K

There are other Republican candidates then these two


6 posted on 12/21/2011 11:27:59 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Brace yourselves!! you supporters of Constitutional Governance. These attacks on Ron Paul are only the beginning of what you must endure to achieve your goals.
Take heart, things are in motion that will be hard to stop. The folks in power are not going to relinquish that easily, you must expect a battle. The name calling and hysterics are only the beginning. Please let us all be brave


7 posted on 12/21/2011 11:29:32 AM PST by Kinzua (Are you ready to admit that electing Obama was a mistake?)
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To: Kaslin

RedState.com needs to be banned from FR.

Erik Erickson is the f’ing scum of the earth.

Reposting any of the vitriol bulls**t this scumbag Beltway whore pays to have published on this vile bullsh**t website is the furtherance of this vile bullsh**t.

Anyone and EVERYONE who endorsed McCain is an enemy of Conservatism.

Anyone who thought there is one spit of difference between Al “Big Gov” Gore and George “I refuse to use a veto pen” “let’s bankrupt the country with Medicare Rx to buy votes” W Bush is a f’ing fool.

Anyone who would discredit the entire Constitution Party over Baldwin’s position on States Rights in Post-Civil War United States is the enemy of Conservatism.

If you can’t comprehend the reasoning behind the above statements... you aren’t paying attention.


8 posted on 12/21/2011 11:29:44 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: Kaslin

What is it about people like McCain, O. Snow, S. Collins, Brown and others, even Newt sometimes, that insist on calling themselves Republicans while working without rest to undermine the most basic Republican efforts to carry out the party’s mission?


9 posted on 12/21/2011 11:36:21 AM PST by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: Kaslin

Ron Paul vs. Barach Obama...... for President..

Which idiot would not vote for Ron Paul.. or not vote at all?..


10 posted on 12/21/2011 11:36:33 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: JerseyHighlander
Anyone who thought there is one spit of difference between Al “Big Gov” Gore and George “I refuse to use a veto pen” “let’s bankrupt the country with Medicare Rx to buy votes” W Bush is a f’ing fool.

Absurd. And offensive.

11 posted on 12/21/2011 11:37:59 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: hosepipe

F John McCain and F Ron Paul. Both are cancers of a different kind who should be cut out of the republican party. Every video on youtube that promotes ron paul has dozens of neonazi dirtbags screaming vile garbage about jews and other minorities. It’s sick. They should all be kicked out of the republican party. We don’t need these neonazi skinhead dirtbags bringing us down.


12 posted on 12/21/2011 11:39:46 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: Kaslin

I used to think RP was a Libertarian. I think I was wrong. Now I think he’s a small government Leftist.


13 posted on 12/21/2011 11:42:30 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Kaslin

Didn’t read the article. Don’t support Paul. But I’m beginning to agree with that sentiment.

I think the term “RINO” needs to be abolished. I think it generally means a non-conservative Republican and it also implies that a “normal” Republican IS conservative. I don’t think that is the case anymore...if it ever was.


14 posted on 12/21/2011 11:42:39 AM PST by PjhCPA (The term RINO implies most Republicans are conservative...and that's a joke.)
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To: Kaslin

I want to play devil’s advocate here.

To start with, America has gone to hell in a handbasket not only from the actions of Democrats, though they led the charge, but from Republicans, who were right there with the Democrats every step of the way.

And given some superb consolidation of power, in which the Republicans controlled the presidency, the senate, *and* the house, did they reverse any of this insanity?

No, not one bit. They continued on, driving the country off the cliff, their sole difference being they wanted to aim for different jagged rocks below than did the Democrats.

If this is what the Republicans stand for, then with clear eyes we need to see that they are no different than the Democrats.

“Radical cuts” proposed by some Republican a day or two ago, of the “100 most wasteful government programs”, would only amount to a dozen *billion* dollars. Which is just nothing compared to the real waste.

Real cuts *start* at 1 TRILLION dollars (out of $3.5T) from the budget.

Real “Radical cuts” to the federal budget would mean firing HALF of non-military federal employees *and* ENDING a dozen major federal agencies, *and* slashing the remainder’s budgets by 30% across the board.

THAT would be “radical”, but THAT is what is needed.

None of the other Republican candidates has proposed any real cuts at all. Ron Paul comes closest, but his cuts are an “axe in the dark”, and not particularly practical or well thought out.

BUT THIS IS STILL BETTER THAN DOING NOTHING, which is what the other Republican candidates are promising.

Seriously, the most important debate question that could be asked of any of them is a simple one: “By what PERCENT should the federal government be reduced?”

They would stare at you like a deer in the headlights. Because not a single one of them have proposed or advocated even marginal cuts.

Because NONE of them believe real cuts are needed. Maybe a light trim, here and there. But nothing substantial.

Is Ron Paul a kook? Certainly. But since nominating totally “reasonable” turkeys, like Bob Dole and John McCain, or, to put it bluntly, someone like W. Bush who has turned America into a paranoid police state, creating an immense security apparatus to control the public, not terrorists as it was supposed to do, WE NEED A BREAK.

Enough with the police state. Enough with spending money like it was water. Enough giving money to anyone and everyone for everything. Enough already!

So why won’t a SANE conservative stand up and say this?

“Vote for me and I will cut the size of government a lot, not just the rate of growth of the government.”

Is that so radical? Then why hasn’t anybody done it?


15 posted on 12/21/2011 11:45:02 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: JerseyHighlander

Why would you say that and who is Eric Erickson?


18 posted on 12/21/2011 11:51:48 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Is that so radical? Then why hasn’t anybody done it?

I've been asking that question. Haven't gotten any answers yet.

19 posted on 12/21/2011 11:53:38 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Kaslin

Cynthia McKinney endorsed Ron Paul - nothing left to be said.


20 posted on 12/21/2011 11:54:56 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Kaslin

I blame both parties for very very bad policy.
RP is in one of them, but they are two sides of the same coin.


21 posted on 12/21/2011 11:57:00 AM PST by Firebirds (Extradite Obama - and Holder >>> to Mexico! Then snap the door shut.)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Lunatics are the people that keeping voting like sheeple expecting somehow a miracle will happen with this years establishment candidate...

That is by definition insanity..doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result!

There are others I prefer over Ron Paul...but I wouldn’t say Ron Paul hates the GOP...I think Ron Paul hates what the establishment has done to our country and anyone that doesn’t stand for the US Constitution first.


22 posted on 12/21/2011 11:57:48 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Kaslin

Ron Paul is like that kooky uncle everyone can’t wait to listen to during the holidays and then talk about, at length, how loony he is after he leaves.


24 posted on 12/21/2011 12:01:34 PM PST by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: Kaslin

I still don’t understand why he is allowed to participate in republican debates. He left the party years ago. Why does he have a platform with the party now?


25 posted on 12/21/2011 12:02:45 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: Kaslin

[ You do want that arrogant lazy, lying pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave reelected, do you? If not then stop acting as if you do ]

If America elects Barack again.. they(we) deserve him..

Richard Simmons(PeeWee Herman) would make a better President, Ron Paul would be miles better than Simmons..

Maybe America has not had enough yet..
If so...... so be it...

Could be a Civil War is whats needed.. Occams Razor is watching.. and waiting..


26 posted on 12/21/2011 12:06:54 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Kaslin
Paul posing with Stormfront owner, former KKK Grand Wizard and campaign contributor Don Black, and his son in 2007:

http://blogs4conservatives.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/ron-paul-and-don-black-photo-op/

27 posted on 12/21/2011 12:08:38 PM PST by Kazan
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To: bigdirty; Calusa
Wait a minute about John McCain. Type in US Senate votes in the search bar in your browser and then click on US Senate Roll Call Votes

and check with what party McCain votes mostly. You will find it is mostly with the Republicans, You can go back as far as 1989

28 posted on 12/21/2011 12:10:36 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: hosepipe
Ron Paul vs. Barach Obama...... for President..Which idiot would not vote for Ron Paul.. or not vote at all?..

Sadly, most would end up either choosing or Obama or neither once photos of Paul posing for a photo with former KKK Grand Wizard Don Black hit the airwaves.

I doubt Paul can win the nomination. But, if he did this photo would result in a landslide win for Obama:

http://blogs4conservatives.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/ron-paul-and-don-black-photo-op/

There is no defending a man that associates and takes money from racists.

29 posted on 12/21/2011 12:12:50 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Mr. K

Ron Paul hasn’t a chance of getting nominated or elected if he is nominated.

# 1 - He LOOKS too old. (Reality is in the perception.)

# 2 - His foreign policies are so simplistically idealistic as seem puerile. (While our nation-building adventures under the Bush Klan were clearly expensive exercizes in futility, Paul’s poopooing the reality of the nuclear threat from Iran is simply criminal. So too is his idiotic belief that Muslims are only targetting us because we are over there and because of Israel.)

# 3 - He has anti-semitic and racist baggage in his past

# 4 - He’s ANNOYING. (VERY)

Other than that, his domestic policies are generally right on.

By the way, I changed my tagline. See below.


30 posted on 12/21/2011 12:15:28 PM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney, Ron Paul or Huntsman)
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To: Kaslin

First of all, there is currently a one party system in these United States, Secondly, Ron Paul may say a lot of interesting things, things which both his supporters and enemies enjoy repeating, but he cannot be elected in the current climate of brainwashed TV watching people who an incapable of thinking for themselves. Thirdly we cannot just pull out of everywhere, especially now that the Muslim Brotherhood is taking over the Arab World. What a mess we are in! We need to get back to taking money from companies that want to take advantage of cheap labor in China instead of expecting the American people to pay for all this international adventurism.


31 posted on 12/21/2011 12:16:20 PM PST by RichardMoore (Constitution Party)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

[ So why won’t a SANE conservative stand up and say this?
“Vote for me and I will cut the size of government a lot, not just the rate of growth of the government.” ]

Obviously you have not read Newts, Perrys and even Michele Bachmans plans for the future..

Since you are ignorant of their plans you probably don’t really care and are trying to play politics with the big boys/girls here..

get informed grasshopper..


32 posted on 12/21/2011 12:17:03 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: gleeaikin

It is an exercise in fruitility asking Ron Paul will he endorse any pro-interventionist candidate. He takes the libertarian line in overseas policy. Stay out of the affairs of other countries and take care of the United States. If any of the GOP candidates would come out and say we need to pull out of other countries and only get in wars that are declared by the US Constitution, that person might get Paul’s endorsement. But that’s not going to happen so when Paul makes it to the finish line, he’ll still be perking along and will take about 5% of the popular vote. His out in the left field foreign no-policy makes him a non-factor in the presidential race. Its always been this way and will be this year. He will also offer his endorsemenent to greens, liberals, really anyone who is anti-war. Social issues are not his bag of tea. That’s why he can support a quack like Cynthia McKinny, who’s an avowed abortionist. I also have a feeling he’s in cohoots with liberal Romney in Iowa - to marginalize Newt.
I suspect Romney has promised him a cabinet position. Paul used to never criticize other candidates. That has ended with his tar-and-feathering of Gingrich. Remember he never criticizes Romney.


34 posted on 12/21/2011 12:21:13 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: okie01

But true.


35 posted on 12/21/2011 12:22:40 PM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: Kazan

[ I doubt Paul can win the nomination. But, if he did this photo would result in a landslide win for Obama: ]

If you beleive Ron Paul is for the KKK your delusional..
That is going around these days.. Serious delusion going on..

Polls are for mental weaklings.. mere propaganda...
I bet you believe some of the polls.. you appear to be weak that way..


36 posted on 12/21/2011 12:23:44 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe
If you beleive Ron Paul is for the KKK your delusional..

Then, tell us why he took money from a former KKK Grand Wizard Don Black and posed for a picture with Black and his son?

If you don't think taking money from and posing with a notorious racist like Black isn't abhorrent, you're the one delusional and, probably, a racist yourself.

37 posted on 12/21/2011 12:27:23 PM PST by Kazan
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To: svcw

Bump


38 posted on 12/21/2011 12:29:42 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ChenangoShooter.308
What sort of lack of context are you referring to? Paul took campaign money from Black and treated him like any other contributor, posing for a photo with him and signing autographs for his son.

That compares to Reagan meeting with world leaders and trying to negotiate with them? Don't think so.

39 posted on 12/21/2011 12:30:04 PM PST by Kazan
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To: svcw

No no, he endorsed her. I agree with you though that nothing left needs to be said


41 posted on 12/21/2011 12:31:58 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kinzua

That Kool-Aid must be tasting pretty damned good to post something like that.


42 posted on 12/21/2011 12:33:34 PM PST by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: Kazan

[ Then, tell us why he took money from a former KKK Grand Wizard Don Black and posed for a picture with Black and his son? ]

OK I will... he needs money to run.. and he generally has no idea who contributes..
Maybe “the Devil” contributed as well.. still need some bucks..

Most if not all candidates have little idea who contributes.. even Zerodamus..


43 posted on 12/21/2011 12:34:12 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Kazan; hosepipe

Yeah, look at all his Nazi and anarchists supporters down in Texas, who have repeatedly, over and over reelected him.

Their all Nazis, KKK members and anarchist down in Texas!


45 posted on 12/21/2011 12:37:08 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kaslin

The current GOP? I despise Romney’s GOP, too. That is why I am not a Demonrat.


46 posted on 12/21/2011 12:37:08 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: hosepipe
OK I will... he needs money to run..

So, that justifies pandering to a known racist and former KKK Grand Wizard and getting his picture taken with him?

If you think so, you're out of your mind.

At best, Paul is incredibly stupid for posing for picture with him. But, his racist remarks in his newsletters, Israel bashing and Iran coddling tell me Paul and Black have a lot in common.

47 posted on 12/21/2011 12:38:33 PM PST by Kazan
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

No such thing as a “small government leftist.”

He’s a libertarian in that he wants no rules concerning ethics in govenerment or American life. Would be a zombie society of darwin’s dreams.


48 posted on 12/21/2011 12:40:36 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: ChenangoShooter.308

Elvis was a dope fiend!


50 posted on 12/21/2011 12:42:17 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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