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Tea Party Patriots leader arrested at airport for checking in lawful pistol
Daily Caller ^ | 12/19/11 | Alex Pappas

Posted on 12/21/2011 12:42:42 PM PST by freespirited

Tea Party Patriots co-founder Mark Meckler was arrested at an airport in New York City on Thursday after he attempted to check-in a locked gun box holding his Glock 27 pistol and ammunition to a Delta Air Lines ticket agent.

According to authorities and his attorney, Meckler, 49, holds a concealed-carry permit for the Glock 27 pistol at home in California, but not in New York where he was attempting to board the plane. As a result, he was arrested and charged with a felony.

“Before leaving home, passengers should acquaint themselves with the weapon laws of the jurisdiction that they are visiting and comply with any and all legal requirements if they choose to travel with a weapon,” Queens District Attorney Richard A. Brown said.

“Otherwise, they may find themselves being arrested and charged with a felony – as is what occurred in this case,” he said.

Attorney Brian Stapleton of Goldberg, Segalla, LLP said Meckler was only attempting to follow TSA rules for checking in a firearm when he was arrested.

“While in temporary transit through the state of New York in possession of an unloaded, lawful firearm that was locked in a TSA-approved safe, he legally declared his possession of the firearm in his checked baggage at the ticket counter as required by law and in a manner approved by TSA and the airline, yet was arrested by port authority for said possession,” Stapleton said.

Meckler was arraigned Thursday in Queens Criminal Court and charged with second degree criminal possession of a weapon, a Class C felony.

Meckler was released Thursday. He has a court date set for Jan. 12, 2012.

Brown said Meckler, a well-known person in the tea party movement, told authorities he keeps the pistol with him because he gets threats.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; markmeckler

1 posted on 12/21/2011 12:42:43 PM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited

This sounds like non-sense...? I you attempt to transport a item that is restricted you get arrested?


2 posted on 12/21/2011 12:47:48 PM PST by Leep
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To: freespirited

Wasn’t there a law passed a few years ago that explicitly protected travelers in this sort of situation?


3 posted on 12/21/2011 12:50:41 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Leep

Sorry mis-read the post. Technically, I guess he would be guilty.


4 posted on 12/21/2011 12:51:07 PM PST by Leep
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To: freespirited

Targeted arrest.


5 posted on 12/21/2011 12:51:11 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Leep

It’s purely political. NYC is a police state.

If you offend the authorities, they find a way to arrest you.


6 posted on 12/21/2011 12:52:09 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Leep

America the free!

As long as you abide by the 908,000 laws.

This does not apply to the millions of innocent, hard working illegal aliens.


7 posted on 12/21/2011 12:52:29 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: freespirited

It’s simple don’t fly Delta airlines. I had a similar problem 2 years ago while flying with Delta where the agent contacted the Police when I declared a firearm to have me investigated to determine if I legally possessed the firearm I declared. I haven’t flown Delta since.


8 posted on 12/21/2011 12:52:52 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: Leep

Should NYC be allowed to restrict freedom of speech?


9 posted on 12/21/2011 12:53:50 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: freespirited

So, apparently since it was in a case and in his luggage, it was determined to be a “concealed weapon” for which he does not have a permit in NY?

How does the State deal with hunters who transport their long-guns in cases?


10 posted on 12/21/2011 12:53:59 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: freespirited

Thanks Delta Airlines.


11 posted on 12/21/2011 12:54:22 PM PST by muddler (Chaos is coming.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
How does the State deal with hunters who transport their long-guns in cases?

There are another 127 laws which address that.

Just go along with it.

12 posted on 12/21/2011 12:55:58 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Leep

<< This sounds like nonsense...? I you attempt to transportan item that is restricted you get arrested? >>

It’s common practice in New York to make these kinds of arrests. Airlines are required to contact the NY cops when they find any gun in luggage. If that person does not have a New York permit, they are arrested.

The most egregious case I am aware of invovled someone whose plane was diverted because of weather and they were bussed into NYC from another state (PA if I recall) to catch another plane. Because he had to recheck his luggage in New York, he was arrested on a felony.


13 posted on 12/21/2011 12:56:41 PM PST by Klaatu Barada Nikto
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To: Klaatu Barada Nikto

Sounds like a good case for jury nullification that was discussed elsewhere today.


14 posted on 12/21/2011 12:58:37 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: DuncanWaring

The 1986 firearms owner’s protection act. Not that the antis pay much attention to it.


15 posted on 12/21/2011 12:59:32 PM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Life Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: freespirited

Occupy Wall Street protester jailed on gun possession charge
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/occupy_wall_street_protester_jailed_bElfY7oir3pq48GWtq3KvN#ixzz1hCk172Xn


16 posted on 12/21/2011 1:01:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: freespirited

Before issuing press releases you ought to read the U.S. Constitution!


17 posted on 12/21/2011 1:06:04 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: Leep
Special Advisory for New York and New Jersey Airports: Despite federal law that protects travelers, authorities at JFK, La Guardia, Newark and Albany airports have been known to enforce state and local firearms laws against airline travelers who are merely passing through the jurisdiction. In some cases, even persons traveling in full compliance with federal law have been arrested or threatened with arrest. As noted above in the section entitled "Federal Law on the Transportation of Firearms," FOPA`s protections have been substantially narrowed by court decisions, and persons traveling with firearms may want to avoid New York and New Jersey or make arrangements to ship their firearms to their destination, rather than bringing them through these jurisdictions.

One would hope that eventually someone will be able to bring this before the higher courts and restrict New York and New Jersey from these illegal arrests.

18 posted on 12/21/2011 1:09:08 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When guns are outlawed, only the Government and outlaws will have guns.


19 posted on 12/21/2011 1:10:17 PM PST by Venturer
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To: freespirited

Nothing much new in communists America. Closing down our freedoms have been going on for many years. We are fast becoming slaves of the State.


20 posted on 12/21/2011 1:10:56 PM PST by Logical me
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To: freespirited

A patriot checks in his gun voluntarily and gets arrested.

An Attorney General SELL GUNS TO DEALERS who kill agents, is praised and gets away with murder!


21 posted on 12/21/2011 1:14:25 PM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: freespirited
Failure to adhere to the following regulations will preclude passengers from traveling with firearms, ammunitions or firearm parts:

* Travelers must declare all firearms to the airline during the ticket counter check-in process.
* The firearm must be unloaded.
* The firearm must be in a hard-sided container.
* The container must be locked. A locked container is defined as one that completely secures the firearm from being accessed. Locked cases that can be pulled open with little effort cannot be brought aboard the aircraft.
* If firearms are not properly declared or packaged, TSA will provide the bag to law enforcement for resolution with the airline. If the issue is resolved, law enforcement will release the bag to TSA so screening may be completed. TSA must resolve all alarms of checked luggage. If a locked container containing a firearm alarms, TSA will contact the airline, who will make a reasonable attempt to contact the owner and advise the passenger to go to the screening location. If contact is not made, the container will not be placed on the aircraft.
* If a locked container alarms during screening and is not marked as containing a declared firearm, TSA will cut the lock in order to resolve the alarm.
* Travelers should remain in the area designated by the aircraft operator or TSA representative to take the key back after the container is cleared for transportation. Travelers must securely pack any ammunition in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition. Firearm magazines and ammunition clips must be securely boxed or included within a hard-sided case containing an unloaded firearm.
* Small arms ammunition, including ammunition not exceeding .75 caliber for a rifle or pistol and shotgun shells of any gauge, may be carried in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as it follows the packing guidelines described above.
TSA prohibits black powder or percussion caps used with black-powder.

Source

Was the gun loaded, or was there a bullet chambered?

22 posted on 12/21/2011 1:14:48 PM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: kingu

When are they going to issue an “Advisory” to ARREST ERIC HOLDER???


23 posted on 12/21/2011 1:15:35 PM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: kingu

NJ/NY are “Iron Curtain” States in terms of gun control. People on FR from Penn have told horror stories about being in “technical violation” of the law by crossing the border to visit someone and having certain type weapons in their cars.


24 posted on 12/21/2011 1:16:32 PM PST by donozark (Ron Paul! You magnificent bastard! I read your book! (cook book that is))
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To: freespirited
Follow the Law

Get Arrested

25 posted on 12/21/2011 1:17:24 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Klaatu Barada Nikto
If that person does not have a New York permit, they are arrested

New York does not issue nonresident permits.

26 posted on 12/21/2011 1:18:08 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: freespirited

He is screwed. He will do time for this in the Peoples Republic of New York


27 posted on 12/21/2011 1:19:31 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: El Laton Caliente
New York is the only state which holds that the Federal law can only be applied in a courtroom, at your trial.

True, the Federal law makes it impossible for you to be convicted of a felony, but NYS is free (under the letter of the law) to make you suffer as much as possible PRIOR to your inevitable acquittal.

28 posted on 12/21/2011 1:20:39 PM PST by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: El Laton Caliente

The 1986 firearms owner’s protection act.

A very bad law. The American public became instantly outgunned by every agency of government that you care to think about, and every day that passes, we become more so.

The 1968 law is just as bad and both need to find their way to the ash heap of history along with I might add, all living individuals who so thoughtlessly, but with malice aforethought brought these two anti-constitutional pieces of crap into being.

For you NRA lovers, Charleton Heston was a prime mover at the time Congress was attempting to enact the 1968 law. Some consider his backing of the bill to have been an essential element in it’s passing. I forgive him, but how can one forgive the NRA? Their complete lack of leadership was just as bad if not worse.


29 posted on 12/21/2011 1:21:28 PM PST by wita
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To: freespirited
The problem is, you can't have an unlicensed pistol in NYC, and attempting to check it is not much different than waving it around in the lobby. If he never left the airport, and went straight from baggage claim to the ticket counter, he might be ok under the GCA exemption.

The question is why did he have the gun - if it was in his baggage, he was technically breaking NYC law as soon as he pulled it off the carousel. If he was just making a connection, it shouldn't have left the tarmac.

Don't check firearms to locations that prohibit firearms possession.

Even better, don't even visit those locations.

30 posted on 12/21/2011 1:28:08 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: freespirited

FEDEX


31 posted on 12/21/2011 1:28:26 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: freespirited

Lesson learned - do not travel to New York for any reason.


32 posted on 12/21/2011 1:35:43 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: freespirited

If he stayed over night in NY with his glock, then tried to leave another day...HE’S VERY VERY SCREWED.


33 posted on 12/21/2011 2:00:05 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: freespirited

I hope he sues their asses for all he can get


34 posted on 12/21/2011 2:01:25 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: kingu
One would hope that eventually someone will be able to bring this before the higher courts and restrict New York and New Jersey from these illegal arrests.

Yeah, I bet the Attorney-General will get right on this.

35 posted on 12/21/2011 2:17:32 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: JohnKinAK

Why would it be Delta’s fault? You have to declare a checked firearm nomatter what airline you fly.


36 posted on 12/21/2011 2:24:54 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I'd give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: freespirited

Unconstitutional and noxious NYBS.

End of story.


37 posted on 12/21/2011 2:43:25 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Ramius

When I was in Chicago the Delta agent called the Police to investigate me. I’ve flown on Alaska Air out of Chicago without such treatment.


38 posted on 12/21/2011 2:45:21 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: dragnet2

America the free!

As long as you abide by the 908,000 laws.

This does not apply to the millions of innocent, hard working illegal aliens.

Thank you for this dragnet! Love it.


39 posted on 12/21/2011 2:47:30 PM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
How does the State deal with hunters who transport their long-guns in cases?

I drive. Much safer this way, from every point of view.

40 posted on 12/21/2011 2:48:50 PM PST by Greysard
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To: freespirited

Blatantly unconstitutional.
The charges will be dropped............


41 posted on 12/21/2011 2:53:39 PM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: Jewbacca

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
\

I wonder what part of that do they not get

?..............


42 posted on 12/21/2011 2:55:09 PM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: Dapper 26
Lesson learned - do not travel to New York for any reason.

Good advice, I intend to take it!

43 posted on 12/21/2011 3:13:47 PM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited

Lawful means lawful. Period.

Or so it should.

Where the hell is the NRA? This is tantamount to someone forcibly placing duct tape over his mouth.

The 2A is absolute.


44 posted on 12/21/2011 4:08:38 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Dapper 26

I used to travel to NYC, especially during Christmas. Now I feel that any city or state which does not uphold the 2A (or in fact undermines it) does not deserve one red cent of mine.


45 posted on 12/21/2011 4:16:12 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Greysard

Yeah, but do you have a CCW for that rifle in that case in your trunk? Hmmmmm?

Just pointing out an inconsistency.


46 posted on 12/21/2011 4:43:09 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (yEAH)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Yeah, but do you have a CCW for that rifle in that case in your trunk? Hmmmmm?

However strange it might sound, transportation of firearms in vehicles is legally different from carrying them on your body, within reach. Unloaded rifles in the trunk, locked and secured in cases, are not within reach. However if you carry them loaded (even a detached magazine with one round will do!) you'd be committing a crime (or not, depending on what you read, Fish & Game Code or Penal Code.)

There is also another legal distinction; long rifles can't be concealed by definition, so no CCW is required. And once I arrive at the hunting area another exception - specially for hunters - allows me to carry loaded firearms, concealed or not. However since I hunt on private property this is not even required; I usually have a rifle and a handgun with me. Hunting with a handgun is perfectly legal.

47 posted on 12/21/2011 7:18:06 PM PST by Greysard
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