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Santa Claus Sacked At Hoboken, N.J. Elementary School Jewish Parent Objects,
cbs ^ | 12.20.11

Posted on 12/21/2011 4:20:42 PM PST by Coleus

Edited on 12/21/2011 5:32:04 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Santa Claus has been

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: education; hoboken; jewish; publicschools; santaclause; waronchristmas; waronchristmas2011
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To: jmacusa

Why was my comment dramatic? How was it over-the-top?

Jeez,Louise.


41 posted on 12/22/2011 7:15:37 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: MestaMachine

Yoo,hoo! I’m not saying anyone’s forcing you to celebrate Christmas!

I’m not insecure in my faith. I’m a convert to Judaism so clearly I’m quite comfortable in my faith.

Let’s not twist things around.


42 posted on 12/22/2011 7:18:27 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
It’s not for all Americans. We Jews are forbidden to celebrate Christmas as it is a Christian holiday,even if it has become secularized.

Fine. Don't celebrate it. Just don't pee on people who DO like celebrating it.

43 posted on 12/22/2011 7:23:58 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Which part of the Tora is it that forbids you from celebrating Christmas? Chapter and verse if you please.

Thanks.


44 posted on 12/22/2011 7:27:15 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Well,it is forbidden for Jews. We are forbidden from celebrating any Christian holiday. I’m all for Christmas. I’m not threatened by it.

The point of the article is that here there is a Jewish parent who was so offended by the idea of Christmas and Santa that he got it taken away for everyone. That's really going to promote good feelings, is it?

45 posted on 12/22/2011 7:30:01 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN; surroundedbyblue
Just because everything is closed it does not mean that it’s a holiday for the Jews,too.

Having grown up in NYC, it seemed to me, who attended Catholic school, the kids in public schools benefited from both the Christian and Jewish holidays, because the public schools were always closed for Jewish holidays. Oh, and us Christians who used public transportation suffered because the buses and subways operated on "holiday" schedules and it made it difficult for us to get to school on time. Fortunately, the nuns were aware of that fact and there were no "lates" given out on Jewish holidays in my Catholic High School.

46 posted on 12/22/2011 8:43:28 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Sigh.

Relax guys and stop taking things the wrong way.

I’m not peeing on those who like celebrating it. My family does.

Oy,vey.


47 posted on 12/23/2011 10:44:43 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: Lurker

There are no specific verses that forbid us from celebrating Christmas,but it is a Christian holiday and we do not believe Jesus is G-d in the flesh. We do not believe he was born to a virgin.

We believe G-d is one and completely indivisible and that the trinity breaks G-d into threes,which is polytheism,not monotheism. G-d makes it very clear that He is not a man and that He cannot be seen. I can provide verses if you’d like.


48 posted on 12/23/2011 10:49:17 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I don’t know why she’d be offended.

It doesn’t make her look very good,does it?


49 posted on 12/23/2011 12:35:39 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I don’t know why she’d be offended.

It doesn’t make her look very good,does it?


50 posted on 12/23/2011 12:35:56 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
I don’t know why she’d be offended. It doesn’t make her look very good,does it?

Yes, that was my point. It creates ill-will to no real benefit. I think there's one or two items in the Talmud about going out of your way to create offense in the gentile community.

51 posted on 12/23/2011 12:58:57 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: PapaBear3625

There are people who believe that the Talmud is racist and anti-gentile.Nothing could be further from the truth. Ill will goes against what the L-rd wants.

Judaism is about working together to make a better world,known as Tikkun Olam.


52 posted on 12/23/2011 2:57:01 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: PapaBear3625

There are people who believe that the Talmud is racist and anti-gentile.Nothing could be further from the truth. Ill will goes against what the L-rd wants.

Judaism is about working together to make a better world,known as Tikkun Olam.


53 posted on 12/23/2011 2:57:01 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

What I meant to say was that there’s passages in the Talmud AGAINST going out of your way to create offense.


54 posted on 12/23/2011 3:01:55 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: ml/nj
As a Jew I am personally embarrassed by this.

Me, too. This never would have happened in the America that I grew up in. My wish for this season is to see a rebirth of that nation, where we appreciate and enjoy each others' traditions because the joy of being free person in America transcends whatever differences we might have.

55 posted on 12/23/2011 3:05:23 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I know what you are saying,and you’re right.


56 posted on 12/23/2011 3:05:31 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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