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Why Not Cut Income Tax Rates To Give Everyone An Extra Forty Dollars a Week?
freerepublic.com ^ | 12-22-2011 | raybbr

Posted on 12/22/2011 1:30:46 PM PST by raybbr

I have been listening to a lot of debate on the radio about the payroll deduction cut. I just recently heard the Won on the radio going on about how some guy will miss his pizza night.

Why can't Boehner and McConnel, instead, come out and say, "We'll cut the income tax rates by 2 percent and reinstate the payroll tax rate so Social Security can remain funded and K.Z. can still have his pizza night with his daughters.

Better yet, we'll cut the income tax rate 4% and they can have pizza night twice a week."

Why do they let the dems consistently out maneuver them on the tax issue?


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1 posted on 12/22/2011 1:30:48 PM PST by raybbr
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To: raybbr

Amen raybbr. I agree.


2 posted on 12/22/2011 1:31:37 PM PST by Principled
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To: raybbr

Psst-—the KISS method of doing anything in this present day government would be mocked by our elitist, elected know it alls.


3 posted on 12/22/2011 1:33:41 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: raybbr

Because the 48% who pay no federal income tax won’t get any of the pay to vote Democrat money.


4 posted on 12/22/2011 1:33:59 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: raybbr

Why not cut gasoline and diesel fuel taxes to let everybody get some of their $4K back?


5 posted on 12/22/2011 1:36:05 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: raybbr

Because Republicans are idiots.


6 posted on 12/22/2011 1:36:55 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: raybbr

Because most Democrat voters don’t pay any income taxes.


7 posted on 12/22/2011 1:37:00 PM PST by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: raybbr

The rationale for the payroll tax cut is that it incentivizes hiring, and will help unemployment. The Obama/Keynesian view of an income tax cut is that people will probably just save that money, or use it to pay back debt. I totally disagree with their view, but that’s why they want it. Most republicans in congress don’t know enough about economics to understand why they should disagree, so they go along with it.


8 posted on 12/22/2011 1:37:06 PM PST by MrShoop
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To: raybbr
Why Not Cut Income Tax Rates To Give Everyone An Extra Forty Dollars a Week? Better yet, we'll cut the income tax rate 4% and they can have pizza night twice a week."

Seen the price of Pizza?

Twice a week for the family pizza night, and you'll be in the hole $40.

9 posted on 12/22/2011 1:37:22 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Proud2BeRight
Because the 48% who pay no federal income tax won’t get any of the pay to vote Democrat money.

They still get the tax taken out of their paycheck.

10 posted on 12/22/2011 1:37:34 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

So true. It’s been the obvious solution all along. Make it permanent and it’s better for the economy too.


11 posted on 12/22/2011 1:39:29 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: raybbr

Never forget the new tax on real estate transactions written into this raid on social security.. disguised as a ‘tax cut’. It seems we are loosing the war on language because few are calling this what it is.


12 posted on 12/22/2011 1:40:45 PM PST by Track9
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks raybbr.


13 posted on 12/22/2011 1:41:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: raybbr

Because THAT would imply that there was common sense in DC... which is science fiction at this point.


14 posted on 12/22/2011 1:41:24 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: raybbr

Why not a tax plan where the first 50,000 of income is tax free and any additional is taxed at a flat rate of 10%?

Make 20k a year no taxes

make 60k get taxed on 10k and only pay 1k.

Make a billion get taxed at 10% on 999 million 950 thousand.

It would be too simple for the useless bureaucrats and they would be out of a job.


15 posted on 12/22/2011 1:42:26 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Proud2BeRight

Exactly. AND it would create a reduction in tax revenues for them to use to save endangered beetles and to buy obscene “art” to put in government buildings. By taking it out of SS deductions, it does not affect the federal income tax revenues, AND it benefits even those who do not pay federal taxes.


16 posted on 12/22/2011 1:42:49 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: raybbr

Why not do away with the income tax entirely and give everyone their ENTIRE paycheck forever?

http://www.fairtax.org


17 posted on 12/22/2011 1:42:55 PM PST by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: raybbr

There was a small business owner on Cavuto’s show a few minutes ago ,he has 15 employes and 14 of them never even knew that they were getting a tax cut over the past ,what year


18 posted on 12/22/2011 1:44:59 PM PST by molson209
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To: raybbr
“tax taken out of their paycheck” does not equate at all to federal income taxes paid. What comes out of a paycheck is determined by withholding filed on the W4 vs pay level. Actual taxes paid is what the bottom line of the 1040 shows on April 15 of the next year.
19 posted on 12/22/2011 1:46:26 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: raybbr
I have been listening to a lot of debate on the radio about the payroll deduction cut.

It's not about a payroll deduction cut.

The First Moron wants to be the first president in history to go 4 years without an official budget.

No budget, no accounting, no oversight, he can go ahead and crank up a 30,000,000,000,000 national debt.

20 posted on 12/22/2011 1:46:35 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: raybbr

Because the government doesn’t GIVE taxpayers anything. It takes. If they are really in a good mood, why not just print a million bucks for everybody and let us all pay off all our bills and mortgages and by a new car? If we do it fast enough, we’ll be out of debt and in new rides before inflation has a chance to get us!


21 posted on 12/22/2011 1:48:27 PM PST by Dogbert41 (A vote for Romney is a vote for Luke warm slop)
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To: muir_redwoods

I’m sure the dumb working fools that are crying about having to pay $40 in social security taxes will understand when there is no money for their social security checks when they retire. By then there will be no more rich to tax and subsidize their lives.


22 posted on 12/22/2011 1:49:09 PM PST by No Socialist
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To: raybbr

because the target audience of Obama pays no income tax and they still want their refund from his stash


23 posted on 12/22/2011 1:49:23 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: raybbr

America’s communists Democrats including King Obama win again.


24 posted on 12/22/2011 1:49:41 PM PST by Logical me
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To: dragnet2

Little Caesar’s Pizza has $5 carryout for the large 1-topping pizza.


25 posted on 12/22/2011 1:50:32 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: raybbr

You plan is not acceptable because Ubama wants to reward those people who pay NO income taxes, but may pay SOME payroll taxes. He does NOT want to benefit the “rich” who DO pay income taxes!!!


26 posted on 12/22/2011 1:50:59 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: GeronL
Little Caesar’s Pizza has $5 carryout for the large 1-topping pizza.

Oh sure...Your going to have family pizza night for 5 bucks.

What a hoot!

27 posted on 12/22/2011 1:53:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: raybbr
"I just recently heard the Won on the radio going on about how some guy will miss his pizza night."

I just about died laughing over that one.

28 posted on 12/22/2011 1:58:54 PM PST by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: dragnet2

Tuesday night at Pisa Pizza in Malden has Two for One Night.


29 posted on 12/22/2011 1:59:59 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: raybbr

Why shouldn’t everyone pay their fair share? Where does the idea that the government would give us $40? What if they took say $1000 less?


30 posted on 12/22/2011 2:03:10 PM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: raybbr

This is not federal income tax it is the Social Security Tax percentage from 6.2 to 4.2 percent. Everyone who has taxes taken from them pays this percentage including the 47%. I wish income tax was only 4%.


31 posted on 12/22/2011 2:06:00 PM PST by BlowNegative (The Thing about Silent Warfare - Don't leave footprints)
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To: raybbr

Because if a cut in income tax results in a revenue loss then it will show up in the yearly budget deficit. Cutting the Social Security, which is a separate account from the budget, allows the thieves on both sides to continue playing monkey business with the Social Security account by just stuffing it with more IOUs (aka Treasury bonds with interest).


32 posted on 12/22/2011 2:08:01 PM PST by avacado
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To: Proud2BeRight

Anybody that has a job/paycheck has to pay FICA.

It’s not like the Social Security System is rolling in unspent cash.


33 posted on 12/22/2011 2:16:44 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: raybbr
Should not have agreed to it to begin with.

1.Should have PROTECTED Social Security. Elderly have already had billions stripped from Medicare and are mad about it. Elderly population is growing as baby boomers retire, and elderly voters show up.

2. Obamanomics has destroyed jobs. Millions of Americans would like to have a job. Obama’s solution is to help Americans making $100,000 more than the “working poor” or those who are desperately searching for a job.

Everyone could use some extra cash. Cut Government salaries and send it out to the every legal house hold.

34 posted on 12/22/2011 2:31:24 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: raybbr
Cut income tax by $100/wk. Make the non-paying fund it through "slave" labor.

One can't get something for nothing forever.

They could always move to Venezuela/Cuba/Zimbabwe.

35 posted on 12/22/2011 2:31:37 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: raybbr

Who can afford pizza night once a week anyway? If it were a Repub tax cut they would be talking about a muffler on a Lexus, what phonies.

Merry Christmas


36 posted on 12/22/2011 2:39:40 PM PST by bray (The Tea Party Occupy's their Mind)
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To: raybbr

Yes, why did the House Republicans Cave to President Obama?


37 posted on 12/22/2011 2:50:39 PM PST by Bleeding_Hart_Liberal
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To: raybbr

If the RINO establishment gets its way we won’t be seeing tax cuts (at least for the job creators) since Milquetoast Mitt only favors cutting taxes for the middle class.


38 posted on 12/22/2011 2:56:39 PM PST by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: raybbr
Why Not Cut Income Tax Rates To Give Everyone An Extra Forty Dollars a Week?

Because you can not "justify" a cut SS benefits because "you did not pay in as much" if it is an "income tax cut."

An "income tax cut" will show as decreased general revenue, whereas a SS payroll cut is not supposed to affect general revenue because of the myth that it is separate.

In reality it is nothing but IOU's...

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39 posted on 12/22/2011 3:23:14 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: raybbr
Better Idea, do away with the Payroll Deduction of taxes and FICA and make people write a Check each month.

I guarantee that within months of such a policy being implemented Taxes and Spending will drop dramatically OR there will be lots of new Congresscritters walking around Washington after the next election!

40 posted on 12/22/2011 3:29:19 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: raybbr

With all due repsect, someone seems unfamiliar with the concept of “unbridled government greed.”


41 posted on 12/22/2011 3:38:08 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: raybbr

Maybe that will occur to them at the end of the two month deal that was just worked out.

These Republicans are pathetic. Always outmaneuvered.


42 posted on 12/22/2011 4:44:14 PM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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With all due repsect, someone seems unfamiliar with the concept of “unbridled government greed.”

Who would that be?

43 posted on 12/22/2011 5:43:12 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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I have no doubt that that $40 is crucial to many. However, if it is all that important why are we even talking about two or twelve months. Knock the props out form under the Obamacrats by offering to make it permanent for all time but only if the senate reconvenes to pass it..
44 posted on 12/22/2011 5:44:52 PM PST by NickFlooding (Canceling out liberal votes since 1972.)
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To: raybbr

Oh, dear, raybbr. As great of an idea as that is, it’s far too good. Because you know Obama is never going to allow any kind of an income tax cut.

As to why the Republicans get out maneuvered, it’s because they aren’t principled. If you’re principled, you don’t get out maneuvered.


45 posted on 12/22/2011 7:12:34 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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It is not nor was it ever a 40 dollar per paycheck across the board break, but the propagandists in the Democrap party and their willing accomplices in the media were very happy to allow people to believe that it was.

The “40 dollars” was based on a household income of $50,000 and an annual savings of “nearly $1000”.

50,000 X 0.02 = 1000.

If you get paid every twice a month you would take home $41.67 per check.

The problem is everyone is not making $50,000 and isn’t paid on the same payment schedule.

So all over Twitter and other places you had people making minimum wage, or part time workers or people making considerably less than $50K thinking they were going to “lose $40 per paycheck” if the rates went up.

I spoke to a kid I know this afternoon that has worked part time since August and has earned just over $4000. He was scared that his taxes were going to rise by $40 per week. I explained to him that had the higher withholding been in place since he started working he would have payed just $80 more over the entire 4 months, nowhere near $40 per paycheck.


46 posted on 12/22/2011 7:22:01 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: raybbr

Most of obama voters don’t pay any income tax and/or get “Earned Income Tax Credit”.

People that pay income tax don’t need a stupid $40 dolar tax break.


47 posted on 12/22/2011 8:08:13 PM PST by dalereed
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To: raybbr

Clearly, anyone suggesting the government might wish to cut taxes.


48 posted on 12/22/2011 11:55:00 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: writer33
As to why the Republicans get out maneuvered, it’s because they aren’t principled. If you’re principled, you don’t get out maneuvered.

Good point. What a sad state we are in.

49 posted on 12/23/2011 2:36:46 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Jack Hammer
Clearly, anyone suggesting the government might wish to cut taxes.

Okay, I get it now. Good one.

50 posted on 12/23/2011 2:59:09 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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