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Porn use makes teen girls five times more likely to have group sex: study
LifeSiteNews ^ | 12/22/11 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 12/22/2011 4:25:03 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: dsc

He said “men like watching porn about lesbians.” I said if they were hot, “men are more than happy to watch.” Show me again how these two statements are so different?


101 posted on 12/22/2011 11:53:18 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: potlatch
Thank you potlatch for the ping. Parents need to remember it takes 2 (well....) to "tango."

Oct 25, 2011: Routine HPV vaccine recommended for boys - The panel that advises the CDC on vaccines recommends that the shot be given to boys ages 11 and 12 in addition to girls, noting that the virus is linked to many other cancers besides cervical.

……However, as of 2010, only about a third of U.S. girls had received the three-dose vaccine, and the rates are plateauing, said Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

Another potential barrier to routine use is money. The three-shot series costs at least $300.

"Year after year we continue to have evidence of low uptake in girls," said Dr. Jane Kim, an assistant professor of health decision science at Harvard School of Public Health who has studied the cost-effectiveness of the HPV vaccine. "When we're at such low coverage for girls, it is of value to vaccinate boys."

It's not clear how well parents will embrace vaccination of their adolescent sons. Those who are dubious should know that vaccination against HPV may help prevent other types of cancers, such as those of the penis, head, neck and mouth, said Dr. Jessica Kahn, associate professor of pediatrics at Cincinnati Children's Hospital and chair of the vaccinations committee for the Society for Adolescent Health and Medicine, which supported the recommendation.

Rates of oral cancers are rising, and HPV infection is now thought to account for more cases of oral cancer than tobacco use, Kahn said.

And, she added, the vaccine is just as safe and effective in boys as in girls.

The key to acceptance, Kahn added, will be in making sure that parents understand the range of diseases that HPV can cause in their sons. The role of HPV in cervical cancer is broadly known, she said. "But we fall short in explaining what HPV can cause in boys and men."

102 posted on 12/23/2011 12:06:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: potlatch; Psalm 144; A_perfect_lady
Porn requires no commitment, no effort, and no risk. You don't have to spend non-sexual time with your porn "partner", you don't have to spend the effort and energy wooing her, and she is never going to say no. She always wants you right now.

But here's what I find more disturbing: men like porn because it involves a gorgeous naked female with a mind like a man. She isn't interested in a relationship, about feelings, about her partner's mind or even his money. She wants SEX, and lots of it. In any form imaginable, and then some. Just like his drinking buddy.

The flip side is the romance novel. The man in a romance novels has a buff body, tight pants, no shirt, and the mind of a woman. He's more interested in feelings, relationships and his partner's mind than he is in sex. The female reader is looking for a stud with her best girlfriend's mind.

Both environments lead to dissatisfaction with a normal partner of the opposite sex.


103 posted on 12/23/2011 12:17:39 AM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: gitmo

You and I did NOT grow up reading the same romance novels. Those smutty bodice-rippers of the 1970s and 1980s had the most ruthless, stalking rapists imaginable. They were absolute cads but had two things going for them: they were incredibly hot and generally rich. In the end they cleave to one woman, but as for talking about feelings... most of them just growled something sexy, grabbed her by the hair, and up the stairs they went.


104 posted on 12/23/2011 12:21:27 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: elkfersupper

The correct term is monogamy not monogamism which is your made up word. Just like your made up ideas regarding “dawn of mankind”, “wish of the female of our species”, “what is admirable” and “what is unattainable”. Pretty much your post is BS.


105 posted on 12/23/2011 12:33:13 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: gitmo; potlatch; A_perfect_lady

All good points. Porn and the purple prose novel - both being fantasy environments where the main actor wins the lottery and does not even have to buy the tickets. Indeed, prescriptions for disappointment, and missing the good that is in reality.


106 posted on 12/23/2011 12:37:57 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Psalm 144

I used to joke that I’d read so many smutty novels, by 16 I thought you couldn’t have sex unless someone was tied up.


107 posted on 12/23/2011 12:49:04 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: potlatch

Merry Christmas, potlatch!

It’s so good to “see” you!

I like Perry. ;o)


108 posted on 12/23/2011 12:58:18 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and an evil Capitalist.)
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To: wagglebee

When I was a kid....girls who did trains or gang bangs were hardly coerced or raped

They wanted it and they were no more intoxicated than the boys

Some girls in high school and college were just plain wild...some adult women are too
Group sex is not new....

We have just dropped the stigma.....like everything else to our detriment

I do think super promiscuous girls are looking for male approval

But I am not in favor of relieving them of their own responsibility as well


109 posted on 12/23/2011 1:01:06 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: A_perfect_lady

Wow. That is definitely edgy, and here I thought such novels were all lace and swooning. I would note in passing that -typically- such literature is read by women.

The main issue to me is that porn does dehumanize real people into mere meat puppets. When that attitude is introduced into real life and real lives, the results are brutal and painful. They can scar a person’s spirit.

I’ve come to the conclusion there is no such thing as ‘casual sex’. There is committed sex, and there is predatory sex (which can go both ways and at the same time) but casual? No. It is always important, because at the end of the day there is a real human heart hooked up to those other parts, and hearts are things to handle with care.


110 posted on 12/23/2011 1:07:57 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Psalm 144
I think the best book for Christian men struggling with pornography is Samson and the Pirate Monks by Nate Larkin. Nate had an assignment in seminary to go browse the porn shops in his city with his wife. He was repulsed by what he encountered, but immediately became enslaved.

It nearly destroyed him, and it ruined his career. It was many decades before he began to find freedom. He began meeting with brothers willing to confess their shame to one another and to stand with each other.

Nate now has a ministry freeing Christian men from this insidious entanglement. He compares two men in the Bible who were anointed by God and who had sexual problems: King David and Samson. One was able to overcome his sin, one died as he defeated his tormentors. David had godly men who stood beside him, and were willing to confront him when needed. Samson walked alone. He was victorious in many things, but lived in defeat to this darker nature within him.

111 posted on 12/23/2011 1:35:58 AM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: gitmo

interesting...Thanks


112 posted on 12/23/2011 6:13:00 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I just wanted to see if you’d start in on a man named PapaBear with your tough, macho attitude, and tell him about his broad brush. I figured you only talked that way to women and it looks like I was right.

I tend to stay away from women who get their entertainment from trying to start conflicts between guys.

113 posted on 12/23/2011 6:40:19 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
How many of those did you read?

just askin'...

114 posted on 12/23/2011 6:42:48 AM PST by null and void (Day 1066 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: A_perfect_lady
Shoulda read ahead. *nevermind*
115 posted on 12/23/2011 6:44:11 AM PST by null and void (Day 1066 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void
If a woman is in a group/society/tribe where a monogamous relationship is not the guarantee of long term protection and sustenance, her alternatives are limited to being able to go it alone, or being able to keep the attention of multiple partners for fractional support from each.

Take a look at our "inner cities" for an example of this. Women having babies from multiple different men, most of them thugs. Being under the protection of a thug shields her from all the OTHER thugs of the neighborhood. Having multiple thugs gives her spare thugs if one gets shot or goes to prison. This is only viable, though, if she has an independent source of support, because the thug boyfriends do not contribute income (rather, they consume).

In a society where monogamous relationships are not strongly backed by law and custom, most of the women will spend their attractive years competing with each other chasing a relatively small number of the most desirable men. These men will move on when a women stops being as attractive as her competition. Marriage and monogamy was likely invented by women, as a means to secure the support of a man past the point where the woman loses her maidenly looks.

116 posted on 12/23/2011 6:53:47 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Vision

People often lose sight of the important while looking at the urgent.


117 posted on 12/23/2011 7:08:22 AM PST by steve8714 (Hitchens was wrong.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
You and I did NOT grow up reading the same romance novels. Those smutty bodice-rippers of the 1970s and 1980s had the most ruthless, stalking rapists imaginable. They were absolute cads but had two things going for them: they were incredibly hot and generally rich. In the end they cleave to one woman,

I've read a lot of discussion about rape in women's romance novels being an example of women's power fantasies. Women fantasize about having the power to take a highly desirable man, and make him so insane with lust for her that he's unable to control himself. The rape fantasies in romance novels NEVER involve the pot-bellied middle-aged plumber, or other low-status male.

And, as you said, the power fantasy culminates in the high-status male committing to her. In real life, however, the high-status alpha male is more likely to move on to the next hot women as soon as he gets bored with the relationship with the current woman.

118 posted on 12/23/2011 7:11:24 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: steve8714
People often lose sight of the important while looking at the urgent.

IOW, "When you are up to your butt in alligators it is hard to remember that your original objective was to drain the swamp!"

I'm going to steal your turn of phrase...

119 posted on 12/23/2011 7:24:40 AM PST by null and void (Day 1066 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: wagglebee
The study involved 328 girls from underprivileged areas of the city who had visited a neighborhood clinic for sexual health issues.

Sounds like Holder's people to me: and yet the cover is lissome innocent lily-white suburbanites, the better to alarm people into buying the book.

Having several generations of no fathers around might contribute to this as well, ye ken.

NO cheers, unfortunately!

...oh, and Merry Christmas!

120 posted on 12/23/2011 7:28:43 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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