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In ad for newsletter, Ron Paul forecast "race war"
reuters.com ^ | 12/12/2011 | Mark Hosenball and Samuel P. Jacobs

Posted on 12/22/2011 6:06:18 PM PST by TBBT

(Reuters) - A direct-mail solicitation for Ron Paul's political and investment newsletters two decades ago warned of a "coming race war in our big cities" and of a "federal-homosexual cover-up" to play down the impact of AIDS.

The eight-page letter, which appears to carry Paul's signature at the end, also warns that the U.S. government's redesign of currency to include different colors - a move aimed at thwarting counterfeiters - actually was part of a plot to allow the government to track Americans using the "new money."

The letter urges readers to subscribe to Paul's newsletters so that he could "tell you how you can save yourself and your family" from an overbearing government.

The letter's details emerge at a time when Paul, now a contender for the Republican nomination for president, is under fire over reports that his newsletters contained racist, anti-homosexual and anti-Israel rants.

Reports of the newsletters' contents have Paul's campaign scrambling to deny that he wrote the inflammatory articles.

Among other things, the articles called the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. a "world-class philanderer," criticized the U.S. holiday bearing King's name as "Hate Whitey Day," and said that AIDS sufferers "enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick."

As Paul made a campaign stop in Manchester, Iowa, on Thursday, his Iowa chairman, Drew Ivers, repeated Paul's assertions that he did not write the articles that resurfaced this week in a report in the Weekly Standard magazine.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: crackpot; paul; racewar; ronpaul
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1 posted on 12/22/2011 6:06:22 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

this is, not good.


2 posted on 12/22/2011 6:07:40 PM PST by RitchieAprile (as Hesh used to say.)
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To: TBBT
Was this the issue that led him to walk off the set of the tv show where he was being interviewed?
3 posted on 12/22/2011 6:08:29 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: TBBT

Ron “Paranoid” Paul.

Ron Paul belongs in an institution.


4 posted on 12/22/2011 6:08:53 PM PST by trumandogz (If Rick Perry cannot secure his own Internet domain name, how could he be trusted to secure America?)
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To: TBBT

Paul should retire from the Washington scene, get set up with a home office and good word processing system -—

** AND WRITE CONSPIRACY NOVELS **


5 posted on 12/22/2011 6:13:01 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: TBBT
called Martin Luther King, Jr., a world class philanderer....

...and that is wrong? There are enough first person anecdotes to confirm this as well as the statements by FBI agents that taped MLK. Ever wonder why the Rosenbergs' secret tapes that were for National security were hidden for fifty years and the MLK tapes were hidden by Congress until 2050? Even Ralph Abernathy referred to MLK's peccadilloes.

6 posted on 12/22/2011 6:14:22 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: TBBT

From Reuters? Disinformation.


7 posted on 12/22/2011 6:16:50 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: TBBT

And he lied about it:

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/22/ron-pauls-story-changes-on-racial-comments/


8 posted on 12/22/2011 6:18:31 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: TBBT

William F Buckley once led the purge of the neo-Confederates and Birchers from the Republican Party. Time to do another clean-up.


9 posted on 12/22/2011 6:21:41 PM PST by mnehring
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To: TBBT

Sounds like that radio show which started with Art Bell.


10 posted on 12/22/2011 6:22:51 PM PST by Leep
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To: Navy Patriot

Typically I don’t trust Reuters but they are simply saying Paul or Paul’s group sent out newsletters with questionable content. That content was accompanied by his signature.

Either he supported what was written at one time, or isn’t willing to take any responsibility for newsletters bearing his name. We already have a president who doesn’t take responsibility.

There was no proof of of fire with Cain, but there was enough smoke to push him out of the race. Ron Paul’s newsletters will be played up to an even greater level if he was to somehow get the nod. Im pretty sure he couldn’t survive that.


11 posted on 12/22/2011 6:24:44 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: TBBT

Aren’t these the same reporters that discussed at length BO’s cocaine use, NOT!!!

Look at the source.


12 posted on 12/22/2011 6:26:04 PM PST by doc
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To: TBBT

Ron Paul is a conspiracy kook. He pals around with Truthers, thinks Bradley Manning is a hero and believes quacks like Dennis Kucinich are worthy of cabinet positions (Dept of Peace I presume). Paul is an embarrassment to the Republican party, he is not a conservative and needs to go back to the Libertarian party where he belongs. It is a real shame we even have paulbots here on FR supporting this nut.


13 posted on 12/22/2011 6:28:06 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: TBBT

I cannot believe that his Texas District kept electing this kook to Congress.


14 posted on 12/22/2011 6:29:52 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: vetvetdoug
called Martin Luther King, Jr., a world class philanderer....

...and that is wrong?
______________________________________________________________
Not wrong; just stupid when you're running for political office. Honesty is NOT always the best policy. Sometimes the best policy is keep your mouth shut and do what you need to do.
15 posted on 12/22/2011 6:34:11 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: TBBT
Ron Paul is insane.

I would vote for him over Obama.

16 posted on 12/22/2011 6:35:15 PM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry (or Gingrich maybe))
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To: TBBT

What a surprise. Not. The man is a walking embarrassment. Despite his “awe shucks” folksiness, he’s as wacky as they come. He’s made a habit of explaining terrorist attacks on Americans as being our fault. After all, he says we don’t give the terrorists what they want. He’s not a conservative or a Republican. He’s his own very weird brand of dumbed down Ayn Rand libertarianism.


17 posted on 12/22/2011 6:35:22 PM PST by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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To: TBBT
Oh, what is this? What kind of person would take a hootin' and hollerin' advertising solicitation seriously? It's the kind of bombastic over-the-top rhetoric that Richard Viguerie et. al. have been using for decades. Its only purpose was to get people to fork over $99.
18 posted on 12/22/2011 6:36:25 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: Navy Patriot

He admitted to the newsletter stuff back in 1996, in the Houston Chronicle, there was a thread her about it a week ago.


19 posted on 12/22/2011 6:38:51 PM PST by Leto (Damn shame Palin didn't run, The Presidency was Her's for the taking)
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To: TBBT

I AM FRIGGIN’ LOVIN’ THIS...... Ron Paul has been running horrible, negative ads against Newt Gingrich in Iowa. Now, the spotlight is on the old doofus brain and he takes his microphone off and walks out on a CNN interviewer when she asks him about his Anti-Semitic, anti-gay, racist, Newsletters that the stupid a**hole wrote himself. Talking about “If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen......”

LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!!!


20 posted on 12/22/2011 6:41:33 PM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: TBBT

Anyone else in the GOP would be politically destroyed by a newsletter like that!


21 posted on 12/22/2011 6:44:07 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: mnehring

Bam! Correct.


22 posted on 12/22/2011 6:46:37 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: TBBT
A direct-mail solicitation for Ron Paul's political and investment newsletters two decades ago warned of a "coming race war in our big cities" and of a "federal-homosexual cover-up" to play down the impact of AIDS.

So? Browse any FR thread involving race or AIDS and you'll see lots of people agreeing with this.

23 posted on 12/22/2011 6:47:55 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: no dems

Ron Paul Storms Out Of CNN Interview

http://nation.foxnews.com/ron-paul/2011/12/21/ron-paul-storms-out-cnn-interview

Ron Paul walked out of an interview with CNN’s Gloria Borger, following a heated exchange over the controversy regarding racist newsletters sent in his name during the 1990s. Borger asked the Congressman if he had ever read the newsletters. “Did you ever object when you read them?”

“Why don’t you go back and look at what i said yesterday on CNN and what I’ve said for 20 something years. 22 years ago? I didn’t write them, I disavow them, That’s it.”

“But you made money off them,”

“I was still practicing medicine,” Paul responded. “That’s probably why I wasn’t a very good publisher, I had to make a living.

**********

“I didn’t write them”

“..... But he did read them, every line of them, off his fax machine at his Clute office before they were published. He would typically sign them at the bottom of the last page giving his okay, and re-fax them to Jean to go to the printer.”

Eric Dondero, Personal Asst./Travel Aide Ron Paul, Libertarian for President, 1987/88

Crdtr. Ron Paul for President Exploratory Comm. 1991

Campaign Coordinator, Ron Paul for Congress, 1995/96

Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul, 1997-2003

http://spectator.org/blog/2011/12/20/ex-ron-paul-aide-disputes-paul

he always says he ‘didn’t write them’... but I don’t think he’s ever been asked whether he approved or signed off on them - and, according to his aide, he did. EVERY TIME.


24 posted on 12/22/2011 6:49:05 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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It seems that Paul (or whoever is responsible for those flyers) was prescient. Who could have known that the President of the United States and his Attorney General are doing everything in their power to start a race war.

Mark

25 posted on 12/22/2011 6:50:05 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Israel responsible for 911. When Borger asked him THAT he took of his mic.


26 posted on 12/22/2011 7:19:51 PM PST by marty60
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To: MarkL

These were comments made in the ‘80’s that he has refuted and haven’t been repeated. I think people have a right to correct themselves and this is just an excuse to bring down the one person that isn’t playing ball with the status quo of two parties that are both taking down our country.

Really, how different will Mitt Romney be from Oblama? The media, the Democrats, the Republican elite, and the corrupt money changers that have ripped off the present and future generations of this country all want Romney to be the opposition to Oblama! Why? Because they are the same.

Newt might be different, but count on it, they will do everything they can to take him out before he can threaten their status quo.


27 posted on 12/22/2011 7:21:24 PM PST by reardensteel
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To: TBBT

HUMMMM, channeling Charlie Manson?


28 posted on 12/22/2011 7:21:50 PM PST by marty60
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To: no dems
The same could be said for a lot of congress critters, most of the democrats and some republicans also, McCain, Mcaministy, and all the other rino's that love to vote with the democrats, also that dingbat from Alaska, another rino. They should just join the democrat party.

Michigan's Levin, Stabanowski, sp/and Levin's brother in the house of rep...and Dingleberry for 50 years...then we have the members of the black caucus, not a fully functioning brain amongst any of them...

29 posted on 12/22/2011 7:30:52 PM PST by goat granny
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To: TBBT

Ahhhhhh....It has been fun opening all these Ron Paul gifts this week. Every present exposes this crackpots dirty laundry and crazy ideology more and more and more. Then watching his cult members’ attempts at defending him is priceless. Keep ‘em coming folks.


30 posted on 12/22/2011 7:33:15 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: no dems
Some talking head here in Dallas was standing up for Paul saying he cannot
be responsible for what other people write. Now I know what he was talking about.
Truth be told is that his followers write this crap for a reason and I don't
care if he wrote it or not.
31 posted on 12/22/2011 7:33:44 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: hinckley buzzard

no, the CNN babe asked him if he still thought that the Jews were behind the 1993 WTC bombing, the FIRST one!


32 posted on 12/22/2011 7:46:21 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: TBBT

Actually, all the reading I’ve done of the Facebook pages of African Americans causes me to wonder if some race war isn’t inevitable. Maybe RP is just doing what RP always does ... calling it like he sees it?


33 posted on 12/22/2011 8:00:04 PM PST by The Duke
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To: no dems

Some constituents really love their kooks. Barney Frank’s district kept him in for some 28 years or abouts. Frank and Paul buddied up this summer to promote legalization of marijuana.


34 posted on 12/22/2011 8:10:35 PM PST by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: TBBT
I fail to comprehend why this nut is running in the Republican primary. He is not a Republican, and he is not even a conservative: he is a kook. Can't he find the Kook party and seek their nomination? His foreign policy ideas are pretty much consistent with Obama’s policies. He blames America for every conflict and problem in the country and around the world. His newsletter from two decades ago confirms that this man is a raving loon.

Paul's newsletter described various conspiracies, including a "plot for world government, world money and world central banking." Further, he claimed to have exposed a plan by FEMA to exploit a false national emergency to "suspend the Constitution."

Ron Paul belongs in the nut house.


35 posted on 12/22/2011 8:21:11 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: PapaBear3625
how people get AIDS
36 posted on 12/22/2011 8:50:21 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: trumandogz
http://www.glenrockcarolers.org/

Aye, and the institution of Congress increasingly resembles and insane asylum.

37 posted on 12/22/2011 8:57:54 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: trumandogz
>>Ron Paul belongs in an institution<<

Yep, here we are, every election cycle that has a candidate that is an independent thinker, they are attacked relentlessly.

I probably would not vote for RP, but he is an integral part of the primary process. The goodness that comes from his campaign is that he helps steer the debate in areas the “Status Quo” would never venture.

The dems and pubs will stop at nothing, spare no expense to make Ron Paul look like a nut. It's happened to every single candidate that marches to the left of left or right of right.

So, we are left with the Bill Clintons, John McCains, George Bushs of the world in which to choose.

Well, it's no damn wonder this nation has moved without hiccup toward a socialistic police state.

It's all about connections, money, power. Evidence? This election cycle will exceed a billion dollars.

Statesmen? What's that?

Like him or not, at the very least, Ron Paul will expose issues no other candidate on either side of the isle has the gonads to touch.

38 posted on 12/22/2011 9:17:22 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: TBBT
A coming 'race war'? Ask Malik Shabazz.

Multicolored currency? Looks more like Canadian money to me, now, but if you have a few bills, the casual but perceptive onlooker can tell what weight class you are in by the colors in your roll...pale on the outside are ones, pink fives, orange tens, green 20s, pink/red 50s and the plain ones in the folded middle are likely 'Benjamins'.

Gays getting 'cred' by getting AIDS?--oh, and lots of attention, too. A few years back there were threads about this on this site, how it was some sort of badge of ubergaydom.

MLK Jr. womanizing? Heh, heh...who'dathunkit?, Really?

I suppose if Ron Paul said the sky was blue, the knee jerk reaction would be to call him an idiot, but that doesn't mean his statements weren't accurate.

If someone says your house is going to fall in, would you spend all your energy saying they are an idiot, or would you use some to check the structure for cracks?

Whether one agrees with his policy stances or not, shooting messengers is a great way to serve yourself up to your enemies-and right now the most threatening ones we face, we face from within.

Those fomenting situations which could well lead to a 'race war' (including the cronies of the current pres__ent) exist. It is but one gambit they have for consolidating unquestioned power.

It is the threat of violence which stopped any further investigation into Obama's past--that certain parties would riot if Obama was proven to be ineligible and removed--so NONE with the power to pursue that have done so, beyond the kabuke of looking at jpegs of alleged documents and pronouncing them genuine (well, genuine enough) to dodge the issue.

Try showing a jpeg of your license next time you get pulled over...LOL!...good luck with that!

Nutter? Or just more Alinsky?

I don't agree with everything he says, (for that matter, there is only one ever whom I would not ever disagree with, and for His troubles, He was crucified-and not just figuratively), but that doesn't mean whoever wrote those things wasn't right.

There is no candidate this year I don't disagree with on some issue, but that does not mean I discard everything anyone says without giving it a reasonable look.

Stopped clocks, and all that. Even the boy who cried "Wolf!" was ultimately right.

39 posted on 12/22/2011 9:43:16 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: marty60
Israel responsible for 911. When Borger asked him THAT he took of his mic.

By asking the question, they have him in a corner. "Have you quit beating your wife yet?"

No matter how he answers, the question lingers. If he did not blame Israel for 9/11, the only response which is valid is not to play their game.

I'd have walked out, too.

To even deny, gives them the headline that "So-and-so denies blaming Israel for 9/11" which implies there is something to the allegation in the MSM where up is down and everything is twisted around an agenda.

40 posted on 12/22/2011 9:56:08 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Longbow1969

“Paul is an embarrassment to the Republican party, he is not a conservative..”

Wow..on a day like today I’d say he looks real good as a conservative. Just sayin’ that things that might or might not have been true back some 20 or so years ago are one thing..caving and hanging the Tea Party republicans out to dry is another.

Number one..Ron Paul is polling something like 25% of non white voters. Obama’s crowd has to hate that.

Number two..I think people are sick of this kinda lowball politics. I don’t think it’s gonna hurt him..might help him after what Palin and Cain went through.

Number three..WHOEVER is the candidate..if not Paul..had better be lookin’ to Paul supporters for votes. If any fair minded person listens to one of his speeches or goes to one of his rallies..you get the whole picture, not a sixty second wonder reply or cherry-picked sound bite.

The whole mess begs for a third party. Obama and Rove strove to do one thing today..break the Tea Party. I don’t think their supporters are going to lay down..I think at some point the struggle between Rove Republicans and Tea Party Republicans is going to come to a head. Unfortunately for the country..it will probably mean an Obama win.


41 posted on 12/22/2011 10:16:35 PM PST by stillafreemind
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To: no dems
I cannot believe that his Texas District kept electing this kook to Congress.

Look at all the earmarks he brought back to his district. The earmarks explain much. Nobody can bring home the bacon like the surrender monkey.
42 posted on 12/23/2011 3:56:17 AM PST by John D
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To: Tribune7
Ron Paul is insane.
I would vote for him over Obama.


I would not vote for either. A vote for Obama is a vote against America's pocketbook. A vote for the surrender monkey is a vote against America's safety.
43 posted on 12/23/2011 4:00:56 AM PST by John D
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Anyone else in the GOP would be politically destroyed by a newsletter like that!

The MSM will ignore it. They want a Cut and Run nomination. That way no matter who wins the general election the anti-Americans win.
44 posted on 12/23/2011 4:03:58 AM PST by John D
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To: John D
A vote for the surrender monkey is a vote against America's safety.

If it comes down to a fiscally sane surrender monkey and the Manchurian candidate I'm going with the surrender monkey.

But we remember, we still got a good chance to get a good candidate before we reach that point.

45 posted on 12/23/2011 5:55:20 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry (or Gingrich maybe))
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To: TBBT

"It's on! Race War! Race War! Race War! Race war's on everybody! It's going down! S--t is going down!"

46 posted on 12/23/2011 5:58:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: TBBT
Reports of the newsletters' contents..

I don't know what is supposed to be "inflamatory" or untrue.

47 posted on 12/23/2011 7:58:13 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: TBBT; vetvetdoug; trumandogz; goat granny; Smokin' Joe; Travis McGee; Pelham; Squantos

We have already had race based battles in big cities for decades now....Watts/Detroit/Miami/LA/Cincinati/Katrina...usually just minority eruptions though even before that there was the occasional white heavy handed purge...Tulsa/Rosewood

And each election is largely determined by an anti white/anti Christian voting block of at least 70% and how many whites or kumbaya Christians are peeled off.

That does not mean all minorities would join on one side and all whites on another....not likely

But civil conflict would have an element of that...no question...the geographical demographics would demand it

Civil wars tend to get back to the basics of killing and division regardless of the hopeful naivete of many here.

I unlike most here have witnessed first hand civil strife with an element of race in Haiti and Sierra Leone...in those locales being white carried a big risk...exponential risk..which is why I left the latter...they had lots more toys to kill with than poorly armed and more hungry Haitians

but...any brown or black freeper here on the forum is welcome to come to my semi farm in semi rural middle Tennessee to seek sanctuary

be sure you know the code word..fore you saunter up the long drive..and bring ammo


48 posted on 12/23/2011 8:23:05 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: mnehring

I know Buckley purged Birchers from NR, but when exactly did he purge “neo-Confederates”? And who were some of them?

Since I don’t recall Jesse Helms or Strom Thurmond ever getting the boot I’m wondering who it is that you have in mind.


49 posted on 12/23/2011 9:38:46 AM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: wardaddy
Southerners are the last bastion in the US that has some cultural identity and cohesiveness. Once this culture has been dismantled the glue that has kept US one country since the Civil War will have been destroyed. Northerners and their decedents hate the fact we have our own identity and culture. Neo-Confederates? Yes, Lincoln changed the US from a State centered government to a Federal government at the point of a bayonet. I disagree with Mark Levin on that point. I spent time at Lincoln Memorial University that has one of the largest repository of Lincoln documents and there one can see that Lincoln was not the icon that he's been made. Southerners have been strong since the CW to support the Federal Government as loyal citizens. There is a big difference between racism and pure hard facts and much of the MSM can't seem to see the difference when it comes to truth.
50 posted on 12/23/2011 9:55:55 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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