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So Are You Offended By This?
The Hayride ^ | 22 December 2011 | MacAoidh

Posted on 12/22/2011 9:47:54 PM PST by LSUfan

I am. Anybody who supports Ron Paul after seeing this isn’t just not a Republican; they’re not a patriotic American. George McGovern would find this guy’s foreign policy borderline treason.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; afghanistan; iraq; islam; jihad; paul2012; paulbots; paulestinians; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile; terrorism
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Here is the link to the embedded video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SMHBEAeNa-c

This Ron Paul ad is a must-see. It's 100% vintage KGB messaging, and it's reprehensible. This is the most atrocious bunch of anti-American propaganda I have seen and it was written and produced by the Ron Paul campaign. It's just disgusting. Closest comparison I can make is to Jane Fonda. Ron Paul is the al Qaeda candidate. It isn't just an attack on our foreign policy, it's a direct attack on our military. It's time to stop ignoring Ron Paul or making fun of his supporters. It's time to start calling him and them out for what they are. I am calling you all out for what you are: Modern Day Jane Fondas. I don't know how "Inspire", the Al Qaeda magazine could have produced a more helpful piece for their cause. No wonder Ron Paul has been all over the Iranian news agencies--Press TV and ISNA--since he ran in 2008.

1 posted on 12/22/2011 9:48:01 PM PST by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

So this is the link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SMHBEAeNa-c


2 posted on 12/22/2011 9:52:39 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: LSUfan

Ron Paul is a veteran. He’s not attacking the military. What he is attacking is unconstitutional action on the part of President Obama.


3 posted on 12/22/2011 9:57:47 PM PST by grundle
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To: LSUfan
I have no problem with the truth, especially when it is true and when it is biblical and that is what this message is, true & biblical. It is true the foreign troops ARE stationed and trained on our military bases within the borders of the US. It is true that our foreign presence is overextended to the point that is has effectively deteriorated our borders and national sovereignty that both are on the edge of the cliff & ready to cease to exist.

Maybe it's time more people start reading and studying the US Constitution as Ron Paul has. His views are right in line with the founding fathers, neither to the left or to the right, but spot on.

4 posted on 12/22/2011 9:59:48 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: LSUfan
Imagine

< snicker >

No, to TRULY be offended, I have to encounter a worthy intellect in opposition to me. To answer your question directly LSUfan

Ron Paul, and the bong brigade surely are not. They are humorous only.

5 posted on 12/22/2011 10:04:16 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: LSUfan

Yes...butitis creapy how much Ron looks like the guy who was the leaderof that group who were waiting for the spaceship and pull?their own plug in California (?)


6 posted on 12/22/2011 10:08:52 PM PST by Shamrock-DW
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To: LSUfan

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the message or whatever candidate.

That was a powerful and effective video presentation.

Let’s hope that a respectable conservative uses such in his or her campaign.


7 posted on 12/22/2011 10:09:00 PM PST by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: LSUfan
You hyperventilate too much.
8 posted on 12/22/2011 10:10:12 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: LSUfan

His attitude towards our military makes me sick. I don’t need to watch the video.


9 posted on 12/22/2011 10:13:53 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: LSUfan

After this debacle on the SS Tax cut who the hell wants to be called a Republican. I was not a Ron Paul fan but he looks good compared to Obama and Romney. May send him some cash at least he has principle.


10 posted on 12/22/2011 10:16:51 PM PST by littlesorrel
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To: grundle

I dont care if he is a 4 star general ....this is total BS and its sad that anyone can swallow it


11 posted on 12/22/2011 10:24:13 PM PST by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: LSUfan

hmm, interesting and accurate reference to Rome..

back in my libertarian days - long ago - loved RP, then started listening to the otd (other then democrats). people call him crazy...... but is it possible he knows more than we do about certain things?
i have a couple of beloved former Marine friends that are in Iraq security now and they are both strong RP supporters. very intelligent, pro-military, but they love RP. when i ask them why, they both say RP is just right on the Constitution. not making this up. and they are both War Veterans and are proud of their service...
just find it interesting ...
thanks for posting


12 posted on 12/22/2011 10:26:25 PM PST by sdpatriot (Rush:" the media didn't make her, so they can't control her")
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To: LSUfan
Every time I see Ron Paul on television I expect him to say, “pull my finger” and the whole Paulbot crowd to go wild with laughter.
13 posted on 12/22/2011 10:27:23 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: patlin
I have no problem with the truth, especially when it is true ...

Quote of the day.

14 posted on 12/22/2011 10:29:27 PM PST by gitmo (Hatred of those who think differently is the left's unifying principle.-Ralph Peters NY Post)
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To: LSUfan

Never have liked that SOB! Same holds for all his Bots.


15 posted on 12/22/2011 10:35:12 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: LSUfan
I watched it and I had no problem with the video.

By the way I'm not Republican but Conservative the same as this site.

16 posted on 12/22/2011 10:35:28 PM PST by Doofer (I'm not at all impressed with the current field of narcissists.)
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To: LSUfan

The part that he left out was the part where the host country put their own people in trash shredders and gassed women and children by the thousands, and raped and murdered women as a suppression method, and don’t forget they attacked an ally and were on a ceasefire agreement while firing at our aircraft. In Afghanistan, uh,.....we were ATTACKED! I don’t really give a crap what the locals think.


17 posted on 12/22/2011 10:36:02 PM PST by chuckles
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To: LSUfan

Being “offended” is something the Left does. Instead, just exercise your right to vote for someone else.


18 posted on 12/22/2011 10:37:04 PM PST by bigbob
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To: LSUfan

Sounds like Ron Paul (pot) is sucking up for the over seas campaign money. Iranian money.


19 posted on 12/22/2011 10:37:22 PM PST by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Persevero
Ron Paul has some good points, especially fiscally. On foreign policy, he is way off base in presenting the mess in the world as America's fault and in saying we must be friendly and make nice with Iran. In the debates, his rant came off whiney and just a little cracked.

Yes, the US military is over-extended. No, we should not be into nation building. Our civilian and military leaders have committed our military to too many places and then tied their hands with unrealistic rules of engagement.

As for Paul ranting this video claiming our presence is like the Chinese or Russians being over here and imposing martial law, that is ridiculous. In Iraq and Afghanistan, for instance, the different tribes and the dictators killed more than we ever did. Iraq needed to have something done, and in spite of all the hand wringing over no WMS there actually were some both in Iraq and Syria. They just were not nuclear. Germ warfare will annihilate a populace as quickly as a nuke.

As for Afghanistan, and Obama's (and others) claims THAT was where we needed to be, I could never see it. This is a mountainous nation of tribes who join together in different configurations for different reasons, and NEVER see things cohesively. Iraq, too is divided into three tribes or peoples, and as we are leaving, they are back at it again. So will Afghanistan be.

But back to Ron Paul--his supporters are kind of like the peaceniks of the 60's--no more money and blood expended. That doesn't mean we can just sit down on our hands and make nice, like Obama asking--asking! the Iraquis to return our drone. He should have been proactive and had it destroyed, but this admin would have probably sold the technology, anyway.

vaudine

20 posted on 12/22/2011 10:40:58 PM PST by vaudine
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To: LSUfan
I'm not offended by the truth, and neither should you or anyone else. The truth is, "War is a racket." (2 time MOH winner Smedley Butler). You should ask yourself why we aren't talking about the financial crisis, the theft of trillions from the SS by our politicians, theft in the form of bail-outs to banks, theft in the form of foreign aid to known terrorist groups and governments?

Paul is not anti-American as you accuse him to be, and does not side with Al Qaeda or any other terrorist group. And no I am not a Paul supporter, the only two I might support are either Newt or Rick Perry, which feels like trying to pick up dog poop from the clean end.

21 posted on 12/22/2011 10:41:28 PM PST by semaj
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To: littlesorrel

Yes he is principled and if his principles are enacted you/ your children will become the servants of the next empire that rises in the wake of American retreat. You think Ron Paul’s happy thought world will keep the conquistadors at bay? So you choose, what nation state do you most hope takes the reigns as the global leader... please choose wisely.


22 posted on 12/22/2011 10:42:27 PM PST by reflecting (ui)
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To: LSUfan

Guess you did not get the memo, now that Ron Paul is leading in Iowa, the LSM says that these caucuses are meaningless.


23 posted on 12/22/2011 10:47:18 PM PST by Fred (On Newt Gingrich - He is a sociopath, but he is our sociopath)
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To: LSUfan

Paul is right about one thing...........we’re headed to the poor house and at some point will no longer be capable of paying for our military kinetic actions.

What is critical to our national security is our fiscal security. None of the other candidates appear to be willing to make the hard fiscal decisions..............they all want to continue the Bread and Circuses it’s just a matter to what degree.


24 posted on 12/22/2011 11:05:14 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: LSUfan

Sorry, it doesn’t offend me at all.


25 posted on 12/22/2011 11:15:53 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: vaudine

My fear is that Ron Paul will pull a Ross Perot and run as a third party candidate, thus handing Obama the election on a silver platter. And considering the two unappealing old RINO’s who we currently have as frontrunners, it wouldn’t be hard to do. Sarah, please get back into the race. Your country badly needs you.


26 posted on 12/22/2011 11:28:03 PM PST by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: grundle
To: LSUfan

Ron Paul is a veteran. He’s not attacking the military. What he is attacking is unconstitutional action on the part of President Obama.

So what? John "The Rat-Basturd, Traitor" Kerry was also a vet, but he single-handedly did more damage to the military (and our country) than any other Anti-Vietnam Leftist and that includes Jane Fonda, all the while pretending he was not anti-military.

As a Nam Vet I don't consider either Paul or Kerry, or anyone who attacks our Republic and Military, "Brothers;" they are back-stabbing, bottom-feeding, scumbags.

27 posted on 12/22/2011 11:37:37 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: grundle; All

BS - this is ready-made propaganda against our military that the enemy is likely spreading around already. If RP is too dense to see this obvious truth, then he’s a dolt and shouldn’t be running for Commander in Chief.

There are plenty of ways to criticize BHO - comparing our troops to communist Chinese or Russians is despicable.

My God, people - the many hateful views of this man need to be shown to the electorate - far too many only think he’s just for the Constitutiom and against the Federal Reserve.

The MSM probably won’t do it and perhaps the only candidate with the guts to do it (if he’s aware of it) is Newt.


28 posted on 12/23/2011 12:03:16 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: LSUfan

Not to defend Paul, but the fine print indicates this was not put out by the Paul campaign...though it is certainly something that could have been.


29 posted on 12/23/2011 12:07:46 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: grundle

You are not allowed to say this: Ron Paul has legitimate points. As Pat Buchanan found out before him - no deviation from the (Dem) Party line!


30 posted on 12/23/2011 12:12:51 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Persevero

I couldn’t watch it through to the end, but you really should watch at least some of it - you’ll be motivated to spread the word about this piece of trash (and his video as well).


31 posted on 12/23/2011 12:17:03 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: sdpatriot

What do you think Rush, Levin or Thomas Sowell would think of this? (That’s a rhetorical question, btw).


32 posted on 12/23/2011 12:22:42 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: LSUfan

Ron Paul has opposed foreign wars forever and continues to. Democrats opposed foreign wars until Obama was president. Domestic energy production is the best way to defeat the terrorists — their weapons are bought with our money.


33 posted on 12/23/2011 12:25:40 AM PST by wizwor
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To: LSUfan

Interesting that on Red Eye right now, they’re talking about RP’s newsletters.


34 posted on 12/23/2011 12:25:48 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: chuckles

Ding ding ding!


35 posted on 12/23/2011 12:28:20 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: Rashputin

OK that made me LOL


36 posted on 12/23/2011 12:33:51 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Shamrock-DW
You mean this guy?


No, wait--I mean this one:

Marshall Applewhite, leader of the Heaven's Gate cult.
37 posted on 12/23/2011 1:02:04 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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To: LSUfan
Ron Paul is a kook.

Imagine that the U.S. sponsored and harbored terrorist cells that killed thousands of Chinese civilians and his analogy might have an ounce of credibility.

38 posted on 12/23/2011 2:26:34 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Shamrock-DW

39 posted on 12/23/2011 2:29:33 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks LSUfan.


40 posted on 12/23/2011 3:26:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: grundle
Ron Paul is a veteran

So is John Kerry, Jimmy Carter, John Murtha, George McGovern, and many others who do not see anything wrong with the destruction of our military.
41 posted on 12/23/2011 3:31:34 AM PST by John D
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To: vaudine
Ron Paul has some good points

He may have a couple good points, but does he ever do anything but talk? He has been in Washington for well over a quarter century, and has never done anything except bring home the bacon, but he SAYS he is against wasteful spending.
42 posted on 12/23/2011 3:40:22 AM PST by John D
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To: semaj
I'm not offended by the truth,

Nobody thought a paulbot would be offended by anything their messiah would say. Paulbots are not programmed to think for themselves. They are only programmed to accept what the surrender monkey says as good, everything else, bad.
43 posted on 12/23/2011 3:45:20 AM PST by John D
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To: JohnKinAK
...military kinetic actions.

I think you mean "kinetic military actions", as in KMA, which is what 0bama was telling us to do when he first used the phrase.

44 posted on 12/23/2011 3:53:28 AM PST by foxfield
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To: LSUfan

Don’t care for Ron Paul.....very effective ad.....some truth in it!!!


45 posted on 12/23/2011 4:12:56 AM PST by ontap
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To: LSUfan

Is Ron Paul just another useful idiot or what???


46 posted on 12/23/2011 4:18:13 AM PST by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: LSUfan

Now, tell us how you really feel :)


47 posted on 12/23/2011 4:22:25 AM PST by Moose Burger
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To: reflecting

That video is impressive but not in the way the RP supporters think. As I watched it continually ask for the viewer to Imagine an America occupied by foreign forces that raped, killed, and terrorized the population, it struck me that would be the exact result if we adopted RP’s foreign policies.


48 posted on 12/23/2011 4:34:16 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: tallyhoe

I’ve watch this video and it is very powerful evidence that Ron Paul should NEVER get ANYWHERE near making decisions about where our troops should be and why they should be there. This drooling half wit thinks the stupid thought. The stupid thought is that the Islamists only want us dead because we are somehow brothering them and if we leave them alone they will leave us alone.
Those who believe this are ignorant or Islam. Anyone running for president who says these things is either stupid or a liar. So Ron Paul, the guy who supports Bradley Manning is either a liar or an ignoramus.


49 posted on 12/23/2011 4:41:47 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: patlin; grundle; LSUfan
I have no problem with the truth, especially when it is true and when it is biblical and that is what this message is, true & biblical. It is true the foreign troops ARE stationed and trained on our military bases within the borders of the US. It is true that our foreign presence is overextended to the point that is has effectively deteriorated our borders and national sovereignty that both are on the edge of the cliff & ready to cease to exist.

Maybe it's time more people start reading and studying the US Constitution as Ron Paul has. His views are right in line with the founding fathers, neither to the left or to the right, but spot on.


While my research thus far leads me to believe that Ron Paul is naive regarding the most basic motivation of Jihadis, consider the following:

GW kept reminding us that 'Islam is a religion of 'peace'. Never mentioned that Islam is a total political system and peace is achieved when there is a world wide caliphate under Sharia.

Ultimately Paul's foreign policy would be better for both Israel and Christianity.

While Israel would get no foreign aid, neither would its enemies:
2011 Interview

Newsmax: What should our relationship be with Israel?
Ron Paul:
We should be their friend and their trading partner. They are a democracy and we share many values with them. But we should not be their master. We should not dictate where their borders will be nor should we have veto power over their foreign policy.
... Stop and consider America’s policy: We give $3 billion a year to Israel in loans; and we give $12 billion or more in assistance to Israel’s self-declared enemies. Some of these are countries that say they will drive Israel into the sea.
... We should share intelligence for mutually agreed-upon goals. We should honor our pledge to refuse any arms sales that would undermine Israel’s qualitative military edge in the region.

As a result of nation building, promoting 'democracy' in the middle east, and PC immigration:

Iraq's Christians Near Extinction

Per Pamela Geller "US policy regarding the refugee resettlement program would shock most Americans if they only knew. The UN picks who becomes US refugees. Christians are being refused refugee status and face persecution and many times certain death for their religious beliefs under the sharia, while whole Muslim communities are entering the US by the tens of thousands per month despite the fact that they face no religious persecution"

FYI Paul would stop funding the UN.
50 posted on 12/23/2011 5:19:40 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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