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House approves payroll tax cut, jobless benefits
AP/MSNBC ^ | 12/23/11 | AP

Posted on 12/23/2011 7:35:35 AM PST by illiac

The House passed a two-month renewal of payroll tax cuts for 160 million workers and unemployment benefits for millions of jobless on Friday, giving President Barack Obama a resounding victory over Republicans who control the House.

The Senate approved the bill earlier.

The measure was passed by voice vote in a virtually empty House chamber despite lingering grumbling from Tea Party Republicans.

It buys time for negotiations early next year on how to cover the costs of a yearlong extension of the two percentage point payroll tax cut, the centerpiece of Obama's fall jobs agenda.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: breaking; congress; taxcut
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Republicans = COWARDS
1 posted on 12/23/2011 7:35:41 AM PST by illiac
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To: illiac

Boneheads. Time to clean house. Starting with Boehner.


2 posted on 12/23/2011 7:40:26 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: illiac

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So wish I could say I was surprised. :(

THIS SUCKS. Nation is going down the crapper and these guys act like it’s a joke. :(:(:(


3 posted on 12/23/2011 7:45:20 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: illiac

The GOP should be mopping the floor with Obama and Congressional Dems for what they have done to ruin the economy, but instead we get the Keystone Cops for party leadership. At this rate we will get another 4 years of Obama and the end to our Republic.


4 posted on 12/23/2011 7:45:28 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: illiac

Damn it all. Boehner is a weenie. Should have bowed their backs on this. GD Obama and the whole bunch.


5 posted on 12/23/2011 7:47:02 AM PST by Jukeman (Not Romney, not now, not ever!)
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To: The Great RJ

If I understand it correctly, any single rep or senator could have voted this thing down...not a backbone to be found anywhere.


6 posted on 12/23/2011 7:47:20 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: The Great RJ

And this is the same s.... we’ll get with the establishment republican presidential candidate.


7 posted on 12/23/2011 7:49:36 AM PST by Jukeman (Not Romney, not now, not ever!)
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To: Jukeman
GD Obama and the whole bunch.

Husein up to -13 in today's RAS daily approval rating - the pharaoh should see a huge approval jump over the Christmas weekend now that he has.......
8 posted on 12/23/2011 7:51:50 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: illiac

HOUSE REPUBLICANS PROVED ONCE AGAIN THAT THEY ARE NOTHING BUT DIMS PARADING AS REPUBLICANS FOR WEALTH, FAME AND POWER!

LLS


9 posted on 12/23/2011 7:54:04 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: illiac

The Dumb Party indeed!


10 posted on 12/23/2011 7:54:25 AM PST by AU72
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To: illiac

The dems win again... oh, stop the presses.

):-(


11 posted on 12/23/2011 7:54:59 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: illiac
King Obama is now guaranteed reelection. The ammunition he has with most of the Country paid for and with a GOP that are no better than the communists Democrats is it any wonder?
12 posted on 12/23/2011 7:55:53 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Cheerio

If things continue without changes in the republican party... obama will sail to reelection and we are dead along with our republic.

LLS


13 posted on 12/23/2011 7:56:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: fatnotlazy

No.....starting with McConnell!!! Then Boehner!!!


14 posted on 12/23/2011 7:56:20 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: qwerty1234
"If I understand it correctly, any single rep or senator could have voted this thing down...not a backbone to be found anywhere."

Somewhere on FR is a illustration of a Republican cloakroom meeting where there is a rack of spines checked at the door.

15 posted on 12/23/2011 7:57:31 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Jukeman

What do you mean establishment republicans? Not one tea party republican stopped this either and they could have. I would say no one in congress is worthy of their office.


16 posted on 12/23/2011 7:57:41 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: LibLieSlayer
You are giving me the impression that you expected a different outcome. Am I reading you incorrectly?
17 posted on 12/23/2011 7:58:25 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: illiac

Boehner surrenders again.


18 posted on 12/23/2011 7:59:23 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Truth29

Where was Michelle Bachmann? She could of actually done something instead of saying all the time, “I fought Obama”.


19 posted on 12/23/2011 7:59:57 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: illiac

All I want for Xmas is a real conservative leadership.....


20 posted on 12/23/2011 8:00:43 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: illiac
NOVEMER 12, 2012 - FLUSH THE CONGRESS AS YOU WOULD YOUR TOILET, BECAUSE THE MATERIAL IS THE SAME!

BONER SHOULD IMMEDIATELY BE REMOVED FROM THE SPEAKER'S POSITION!
21 posted on 12/23/2011 8:01:53 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: illiac

And....There it is. Right on time. The cave. And Boehner and the Republican House “leadership” didn’t even get any concessions for all the huffing and puffing. MORONS. At least they’re consistent....


22 posted on 12/23/2011 8:03:55 AM PST by patriot preacher
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To: GrandmaPatriot

You are absolutely correct. My mistake. It was a complete sell-out.


23 posted on 12/23/2011 8:04:41 AM PST by Jukeman (Not Romney, not now, not ever!)
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To: Jukeman

OLD MITCH just LECTURED all of the freshmen - telling them to stop playing politics and to get on-board. He lectured them and lectured them - called them out as FRESHMEN - saying they don’t understand how Washington works.


24 posted on 12/23/2011 8:08:02 AM PST by silentknight
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To: Tzimisce

You know that typing something across the screen like that screws up my iPad screen.

I will have to keep that in mind when I an feeling particularly irritated by an Apple thread.


25 posted on 12/23/2011 8:11:59 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Tzimisce

You know that typing something across the screen like that screws up my iPad screen.

I will have to keep that in mind when I an feeling particularly irritated by an Apple thread.


26 posted on 12/23/2011 8:12:03 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: fatnotlazy

Boehner AND Mitch McConnell!


27 posted on 12/23/2011 8:12:19 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: illiac
Captain “Cave”man strikes again.
28 posted on 12/23/2011 8:13:31 AM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: illiac
When they come back in January, the House GOP needs to replace Boehner with someone like Ryan for Speaker. Likewise in the Senate, replace McConnell with Demint for Minority leader.

I don't at all like how this went down and it is Boehner’s and McConnell's fault. However, there will be other battles to fight and we need new LEADERSHIP in the House and Senate to fight going into the campaign season. Boehner and McConnell have shown, load and clear, that they are inept and incompetent in leadership roles.

This was bad but not as bad as that STUPID debt limit “deal” that lead to the “super committee” that did absolutely NOTHING. That was Boehner’s and McConnell's greatest example to date of incompetence.

29 posted on 12/23/2011 8:13:58 AM PST by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: GrandmaPatriot

Bachmann was busy shilling for Romney.

Merry Christmas


30 posted on 12/23/2011 8:14:14 AM PST by bray (The Tea Party Occupy's their Mind)
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To: illiac

Can we PLEASE start a second party now?


31 posted on 12/23/2011 8:14:47 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: illiac

Republicans = COWARDS

Obama Wins!! Tax payer loses 10 months of tax cuts!!
If the GOP wanted a 2 month extension ,Obama would have wanted a full year , the place is full of children


32 posted on 12/23/2011 8:15:18 AM PST by molson209
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To: silentknight

The GOP leadership must teach those uppity little freshmen their place. Don’t they get it? The Democrats are the Harlem Globetrotters and the Republicans are the Washington Generals. That’s the way the game is played, boys and girls. After all, who really wants to see Meadowlark Lemon take an elbow in the ear? There are no good guys or bad guys here. So forget your silly notions of right or wrong, people. You’re in the big time now. It’s show business, and that’s what the people are paying you for. Don’t make waves - just bring that money on home. </s>


33 posted on 12/23/2011 8:19:39 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: qwerty1234
If I understand it correctly (and one house member, speaking from his home town) any one rep. may ask a question and that would necessitate bring the who bunch back first of next week.
34 posted on 12/23/2011 8:20:02 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: illiac

I didn’t realize that Obama ran with defunding SS as part of his platform. This tax is never going to be put back in place. The Obama Admin has set the precedent for calling reinstatement a tax increase. Oh well. The sooner SS goes complete broke the better as far as I’m concerned. I don’t plan to ever receive a dime from it anyway.


35 posted on 12/23/2011 8:20:23 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: illiac

How is it a resounding victory for Obama? Obama wanted a one year extension also. The Republicans lost nothing here except they made themselves look bad by not just passing it. They need to learn which battles to fight. A 2 month extenstion with agreement they would work on making it a year in January when they return and they had almost 90% of the Senate passing it....that is not the right battle.


36 posted on 12/23/2011 8:22:56 AM PST by Galactica
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To: bray
Oh, that's right. I forgot, silly me.

Merry Christmas to you too.

37 posted on 12/23/2011 8:25:42 AM PST by GrandmaPatriot
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To: illiac
The measure was passed by voice vote in a virtually empty House chamber . . .

They might as well stay gone. One-half of our bicameral legislature has just been rendered impotent. The Senate passes bills, the President signs them, and the House goes AWOL. We are worse off now than we were when Pelosi was in charge.

38 posted on 12/23/2011 8:26:23 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: GrandmaPatriot
What do you mean establishment republicans? Not one tea party republican stopped this either and they could have.

Correct, which should tell you what a colossal, boneheaded fight this was to pick in the first place.

There was never a chance of winning this the moment Senate Republicans voted for the deal that McConnell/Boehner struck with Reid.

The whole thing was stupid. Talk about not understanding how to pick your battles. I dunno if the problem was Boehner making a deal he didn't initially have the votes for, or House Republicans getting pressure from home and backing away from the 2month+keystone deal that had obviously been agreed to by leadership, but the House GOP managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

39 posted on 12/23/2011 8:28:15 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Galactica
How is it a resounding victory for Obama? Obama wanted a one year extension also. The Republicans lost nothing here except they made themselves look bad by not just passing it. They need to learn which battles to fight. A 2 month extenstion with agreement they would work on making it a year in January when they return and they had almost 90% of the Senate passing it....that is not the right battle.

Actually it was a win - or at least a PR win, just a few days ago. We made Hussein agree to the Keystone language and there are no millionaire tax increase offsets. It was obviously the deal Boehner/McConnell had reached with Reid. Getting that Keystone language in was a victory for us and had been clearly portrayed as such in the media. I dunno what happened, but it appears some House Republicans decided to fight a battle they had no chance to win. Now they've caved which was obviously going to happen given the politics of the situation, made themselves look like idiots, and generally appear incompetent.

40 posted on 12/23/2011 8:34:33 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
The objection was to the way to pay for it. A tax related to mortgages for 10 years to pay for 2 months of extension was the real objection.

This whole thing was a theater of the absurd to begin with. When a payroll tax holiday was suggested the Pubbies should have screamed BLOODY MURDER. It guts Social Security. They might have won some points with senior citizens who are already ticked about cuts to Medicare.

Senior citizens vote, and with the baby boomers retiring their numbers will grow. They should be made to realize that the Democrats are the real threat to Social Security.

41 posted on 12/23/2011 8:44:22 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: qwerty1234
Where's Bachman’s titanium spine when you need it?
42 posted on 12/23/2011 8:50:18 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Longbow1969
Now they've caved which was obviously going to happen given the politics of the situation, made themselves look like idiots, and generally appear incompetent.

I am with you 100% The entire exercise was like watching a car wreck in slow motion. Ideology has nothing to do with it. This was political theater. The way to play it was to insert the Keystone deal, pass the thing, and claim victory for pushing Obama to revisit the pipeline, and forcing Obama to the view that tax cuts are stimulative (even if this one is so small as to be economically irrelevant.) Completely bungled in the House.

43 posted on 12/23/2011 8:50:21 AM PST by Smogger
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To: The Great RJ

A theory is taking shape for me. I think the GOP really doesn’t want to win against Obama.

There are economic indicators floating around there in the ether that the global economy is heading for a spectacular implosion in 2012 (read this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2824275/posts). If these indicators are borne out, and the global economy, including the U.S goes belly up sometime before election day, 2012, would you really want to be the freshly-minted President Elect on the GOP side, knowing that in the next six to twelve months, you’re likely going to have go on TV to explain to the American people that it’s all over? That America is literally bankrupt, along with the rest of the world, and there’s nothing that can be done to salvage the situation? Would you want to be the GOP President having to explain why you’re declaring a State of Emergency and having to curtail civil liberties even further than they are now?

I think the GOP really doesn’t want to have to deal with this scenario. Their thinking may well be, “Better to let Obama and Dems take the fall for this debacle than us.”


44 posted on 12/23/2011 8:51:58 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: illiac
RINO's, all.....and we get to add the Top Rino-in-Chief, ROMNEY, in 2012.

It's all over, folks.

45 posted on 12/23/2011 8:54:22 AM PST by traditional1 (Free speech for me.....not for thee)
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To: Longbow1969

This is no win for Obama, nor the Democrats, nor Mitch McConnell. Kicking the can down the road only comes back to bite you!!! Yes, I know, Obama’s numbers will go up now, just like they did when Bin Laden bought the farm, but.....the numbers crated immediately thereafter!!!

Plus, the American people are not tuned to politics during the holiday season, so....the pubbie blunder has very limited exposure and little lasting effect. The only excited fools are Obama mediabots....and they are losing viewers and readers by the score with every day that passes, so...”they” themselves say!!!

The economy still stinks, and all the posiitve raves from the left will be trounced the day Christmas passes. Watch the unemployment filings rise dramatically as retailers lay off thousands of temporary holiday season workers. And....to add insult to injury, the bottom line numbers for holiday sales at the end of the day, are gonna be nothing to write home about!!!


46 posted on 12/23/2011 8:54:44 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: illiac

This is why I’m hoping Romney gets the nomination and the Spinelessicans lose (because the conservatives stay home).

The only way this mess gets fixed is for N0bama to get reelected and to go ahead and flush it. Time to start over.


47 posted on 12/23/2011 8:56:26 AM PST by mykroar (I believe in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it.)
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To: illiac
Fine! The House GOP needs to regroup and on December 27th reconvene.

Lay down the plan to pay for it now, for the remaining 10 months, and make sure the cuts come from the EPA, NPR, foreign assistance programs, etc.

Don't touch Medicare, Medicaid or any other Social Program. It is too risky in the election year and a guarantee loser.

I think most people can agree that agencies like the EPA and NPR can be downgraded.

If the GOP does it soon then they can sell the cuts and not have to listen to that “1% paying their fair share” crap.

49 posted on 12/23/2011 9:00:49 AM PST by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: LibLieSlayer
HOUSE REPUBLICANS PROVED ONCE AGAIN THAT THEY ARE NOTHING BUT DIMS PARADING AS REPUBLICANS FOR WEALTH, FAME AND POWER!

I'm chagrined at how ignorant the most vocal posters on this site really are. They have such a shallow grasp of history, military or otherwise, and do not understand strategy or tactics. I surmise they are emotionally addicted to online news and without instant gratification tend to scream (in caps), whine, complain, and abuse their erstwhile allies. They have a symbiotic cord with their worst political enemies, behave like them, and seem to fit the definition of Republicans In Name Only (if even that; I suspect many of them are not really Republicans anyway).

The bottom line is that the House GOP lost this political battle and does well to cut those losses now instead of taking more political casualies. The election of 2012 is so much more consequential. Let the pundits and media proclaim an Obama victory so the people can realize what 4 more years of that "victory" will mean to them. I am a Republican, not a RINO. I don't whine (much) and I will support the nominee against Obama.

50 posted on 12/23/2011 9:07:43 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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