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Will Democrats revive millionaire surtax? (Here we go again...)
Washington Post ^ | 12/23/2011 | Greg (Obama Shill) Sargent

Posted on 12/23/2011 10:20:34 AM PST by Qbert

Flush from last night’s victory, Harry Reid floated the possibility at a press conference this morning that Dems could revive the idea of a millionaire surtax when the talks begin over the year long payroll tax cut extension next year.

“I’ve talked to Senate Republicans, plural, who think there should be a fair tax on rich people,” Reid said. “I’m going to make sure that my conferees understand that this could be part of what we try to do.”

Given that Dems dropped the millionaire surtax during the talks over the payroll tax cut earlier this month, you’d be forgiven for concluding that Dems may not take it up again. But when it comes to paying for the year-long extension, the two parties remain far apart, and Republicans are going to push for still more spending cuts.

It wouldn’t hurt if Dems went into next year’s negotiations with a strong opening bid — i.e., a demand for a tiny surtax on a tiny minority of Americans (millionaires and billionaires) in order to pay for a modest tax cut for 160 million working Americans. After all, this skirmish may have weakened the Republican position on this issue — polls suggest that Obama and Dems effectively captured the moral high ground in this fight, and that the public has come to believe that Republicans favor the interests of the wealthy over those of the middle class.

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So another round of “class warfare” might be advisable for Dems to venture. After all, Republicans won’t hesitate from starting from a position that’s unacceptable to Democrats — more spending cuts and conditions attached to unemployment insurance, to name two.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: harryreid; payrolltax; socialsecurity; surtax

Will Democrats revive millionaire surtax?

Considering that Greg Sargent is the unofficial propaganda minister for the Obama administration, the answer is yes.

1 posted on 12/23/2011 10:20:43 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert
I’ve talked to Senate Republicans, plural, who think there should be a fair tax on rich people,” Reid said.

Thank you, Senator Reid, for clarifying that an "s" on the end a word makes it plural. I've always been confused by that.

2 posted on 12/23/2011 10:34:36 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: Qbert

A Fair Tax on rich people is a good idea.

That is, Rich People derive no more than anyone else from goverment services; moreover, in providing jobs for others and additional revenues for retailers and others in business, rich people ALREADY pay more into the economy than anyone else.

A “Fair Tax,” then, would be a far LOWER tax than that assessed on any other citizens.

Yes, THAT sort of fair tax is the only TRULY “fair” tax to be assessed on the rich.

But, of course, that isn’t what everyone is screaming about; Americans want the rich to be penalized for “having more than I have, and I’m jealous, wah wah wah.”

And that’s the whole story.

Period.


3 posted on 12/23/2011 10:42:31 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Qbert
Another way to kill the Goose of golden egg fame?
4 posted on 12/23/2011 10:50:19 AM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Qbert

I’m so happy; in two months we will have no pipeline and the RATs spouting soak the rich nonsense. Dumb, spineless GOP is the gift that keeps on giving.


5 posted on 12/23/2011 11:08:03 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: Qbert

So they paid for the 2 month extension with a forever tax on new homebuyers and refinancers, and will pay for the 10 month extension with a forever tax on millionaires and billionaires.
Makes sense to me. lol


6 posted on 12/23/2011 11:11:32 AM PST by sheana
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To: Jack Hammer

I’d like to see a REAL fair tax:

The Government spent about $3.6 trillion dollars. There are 310 million Americans. Thus every man, woman, and child has an $11,600 tax bill. Fair, even, consistent!


7 posted on 12/23/2011 11:13:47 AM PST by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: Jack Hammer

I agree. Whenever I hear that “fair share” cr*p I say “ Yes, I agree, the rich should pay what is fair. As long as I am the person that gets to define “fair”. So everyone should pay 10%....that would be fair.


8 posted on 12/23/2011 11:24:01 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Mike Darancette

"I’m so happy; in two months we will have no pipeline and the RATs spouting soak the rich nonsense. Dumb, spineless GOP is the gift that keeps on giving."

Yep. Hugh Hewitt says there's talk this might be it for Boehner:

"There is a lot of buzz this morning that Speaker Boehner won't survive the next meeting of the GOP caucus, but he is lucky that the troops have scattered and that Christmas cheer will first obscure and then Iowa-New Hampshire frenzy will erase memory of this week's utter smash-up.

...It is widely agreed that the Speaker is a nice guy and a wonderful, loyal friend, but the election of 2012 is about the future of the country, and the leader of the House has to know how to lead during such a crucial moment."

http://www.hughhewitt.com/blog/g/d80f8163-125b-4a77-b68f-7ed5d44a326c

9 posted on 12/23/2011 11:39:36 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Every single day, the corrupt Harry Reid proves that his mouth and his anus are interchangeable parts. Is Reid going to offer to pay more tax on the money he received from his insider stock trading and crooked land deals?

If the top 1% earn 20% of the nation’s income, why are they paying 40% of the federal income tax?

The top 1% should have their federal income taxes cut by 50%. That would be fair. They would then use that money to expand existing business or start new ones.

80% of millionaires are self-made.


10 posted on 12/23/2011 11:43:42 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The "Occupy Wall Street" losers should try occupying their local employment office. GET A JOB!)
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To: Qbert; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :“I’ve talked to Senate Republicans, plural, who think there should be a fair tax on rich people,” Reid said. “I’m going to make sure that my conferees understand that this could be part of what we try to do.

No surprise here, this is exactly what I said they would do and continue that call all election year.

The bill passed today by the Senate(unanimous consent without the Senate being present) and house was agreed to by Republicans for one single purpose : To push the problem out two months away from today. McCain and the WSJ and the others who called for surrender the past week have no serious plan for taking on Obama in two months up till the election. Just delay the pain.

11 posted on 12/23/2011 12:10:24 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

"McCain and the WSJ and the others who called for surrender the past week have no serious plan for taking on Obama in two months up till the election. Just delay the pain."

In a way, by a sick irony, we now have the same feckless dud who lost in '08 because he had no clue how to counter Obama... dictating how to counter Obama in '12.

12 posted on 12/23/2011 12:39:35 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert; rabscuttle385
RE :”In a way, by a sick irony, we now have the same feckless dud who lost in ‘08 because he had no clue how to counter Obama... dictating how to counter Obama in ‘12.

How did McCain get re-elected anyway?? Oh, never mind :)

Big mouth McCain just had to beat up on the already cornered House Republicans to gain praise by the MSM. Well lets see his plan now since he's so f... smart. He and Obama won, let's see his plan to use this to take on Obama.

13 posted on 12/23/2011 12:45:04 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: SandyInSeattle

How about a Jew tax?


14 posted on 12/23/2011 12:56:34 PM PST by AceMineral (Some people are too stupid for their own good.)
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To: AceMineral

Where did that come from?!


15 posted on 12/23/2011 12:58:53 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: SandyInSeattle; AceMineral

"Where did that come from?!"

I think he means this:

'If asking a billionaire to pay the same tax rate as a Jew... uh... a janitor makes me a warrior for the working class, I wear that with a badge of honor. I have no problem with that."

- Barack Hussein Obama (September, 2011)

16 posted on 12/23/2011 1:21:06 PM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

Oh... I get it. I’d forgotten that little slip of the tongue.

Thanks for the translation!


17 posted on 12/23/2011 1:22:41 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface)
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To: Qbert

Yes.


18 posted on 12/23/2011 2:30:48 PM PST by AceMineral (Some people are too stupid for their own good.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sickoflibs.


19 posted on 12/23/2011 3:41:10 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: sickoflibs
McCain and the WSJ and the others who called for surrender the past week have no serious plan for taking on Obama in two months up till the election. Just delay the pain.

I'm beginning to think that the GOP Senators like being in the minority. No responsibility to lead, just the ease of being a follower. All the perks, none of the worries.

Is there one GOP Senator who has voiced an iota of concern for the abortion of a bill they just voted for? Or the box they put the GOP House into?

20 posted on 12/23/2011 3:41:33 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”I'm beginning to think that the GOP Senators like being in the minority. No responsibility to lead, just the ease of being a follower. All the perks, none of the worries

That was the easiest position for them to be in examples are 1993-1994 and 2009 to 2010, to just be able to vote no on everything and win by default, even the RINOs mostly stick with the party votes too, party united. Then just complain on TV about how Democrats are screwing everything up, hold up Democrat bills in the Senate until the real bad stuff is found and shown to the voters, the MSM grills Democrats and leaves Republicans alone, and win the next election automatically.

A year ago and earlier I was warning (here) that Republicans taking the House would make things more difficult for them in the next election but of course no-one wants to believe that.

Obama knew in early 2010 that he would lose big in the midterm elections and began drawing up a political strategy for 2011 and 2012 to pass all the blame to Republicans to win re-election. Alternatively congressional Republicans just started 2011 in a dreamworld (apparently) that they would just win 2012 automatically as with 2010. At least that's how it seems, by acting and talking aimlessly getting suckered by Obama's traps again and again.

21 posted on 12/23/2011 5:00:51 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs

I heard Obama signed the bill on Air Force One while it was going through it’s preflight checklist before blasting his @ss off to Hawaii.

Those lazy bastards don’t deserve a vacation.


22 posted on 12/23/2011 11:32:00 PM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; NFHale; ...
RE :"I heard Obama signed the bill on Air Force One while it was going through it’s preflight checklist before blasting his @ss off to Hawaii. Those lazy bastards don’t deserve a vacation."

This could be used as an awakening

If congressional Republicans had not been beaten as bad as they were on this the Republican echo-chamber might be still claiming that Republicans are beating Obama badly, telling us to ignore the polls, to ignore the newscasts, etc and just once again wake up shocked the day after election much like 2006 and 2008 for many. But this beating was so dramatic and so obvious that maybe, just maybe, those congressional Republicans will wake up and realize that Obama is playing for keeps, and they will decide to do the same and actually come up with a counter-strategy to his to beat him and make him look like the bad guy. We can only hope.

Remember all those posts last year claiming that Obama has no chance of winning re-election, that he probably won't even run and Rush claiming that Obama doesn't even want to win re-election?? Talk about wishful thinking.

23 posted on 12/24/2011 9:28:25 AM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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