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Donald Trump Bolts Republican Party, Eyeing Other 2012 Options
ABC News ^ | 12/23/2011 | Michael Falcone

Posted on 12/23/2011 1:26:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Donald Trump is officially a man without a party. The real estate mogul whose flirtation with the 2012 presidential race has never really ended despite announcing seven months ago he would not seek the Republican nomination has been signaling he wants to find other ways onto a presidential ticket.

Trump took another step in that direction on Thursday, switching his party affiliation from Republican to “unaffiliated,” according to a source close to the reality television star.

According to the source, he did so because he is “disgusted” with the way Republicans are handling matters in Washington, including the recent payroll tax cut deal. But the move also sets Trump up for a potential third-party run for president — a possibility he began talking about almost as soon as he told his fans in May he wasn’t running.

Trump has sought to reach out to the group, Americans Elect, an online, independent presidential nominating organization that has already made it on the ballot in several states, including California.

“Couple Donald Trump’s name recognition with his extraordinary wealth and Americans Elect truly becomes a viable force in determining who the next president will be,” Trump’s top political adviser Michael Cohen told ABC News. “One thing is for certain, Donald Trump is adamant that Barack Obama must be defeated in 2012 under any circumstances.”

This is not the first time Trump has changed his party registration. He registered as a Republican in the late 1980′s, then switched to the Democratic Party in 2001 only to return to the GOP in 2009. Trump hinted at an independent bid for president as recently as last week.

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KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; egomania; perot2point0; republican; trump; trumpery
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1 posted on 12/23/2011 1:26:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Also, he is thinking of changing his name to Donald T. Rump.


2 posted on 12/23/2011 1:28:24 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama means crooked.)
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To: 50cal Smokepole; Allegra; AZ .44 MAG; Blood of Tyrants; Clint N. Suhks; Cyber Liberty; ...

For those interested ping!


3 posted on 12/23/2011 1:29:04 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: SeekAndFind

All thinking and intelligent people should leave the GOP.


4 posted on 12/23/2011 1:29:04 PM PST by mulligan
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To: mulligan

Yea, that’s a real winning strategy. /s


5 posted on 12/23/2011 1:30:10 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SeekAndFind; writer33

So... how many months was he a Republican?? 10?


6 posted on 12/23/2011 1:31:04 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump’s a loudmouth egomaniac.Actually not too much different from what’s in the White House now.


7 posted on 12/23/2011 1:31:42 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not this 3rd party crap again. Donald. You’re fired!


8 posted on 12/23/2011 1:31:42 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Couple Donald Trump’s name recognition with his extraordinary wealth and Americans Elect truly becomes a viable force in determining who the next president will be,”

What other vote splitting, democrat electing kook billionaire does that sound like?

9 posted on 12/23/2011 1:32:01 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: GeronL

Yeah, it was something like 10 months.


10 posted on 12/23/2011 1:32:31 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33
How about a Buffoon alert.
11 posted on 12/23/2011 1:33:08 PM PST by fantom (,)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t blame him.


12 posted on 12/23/2011 1:33:23 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: SeekAndFind

Tea Party Ticket....

Trump/Cain 2012


13 posted on 12/23/2011 1:33:50 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: fantom

Agreed.


14 posted on 12/23/2011 1:35:00 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Servant of the Cross

So, if Trump runs as an independent (self-financed, I would imagine), I think his schtick will be to appeal to the “birther” crowd.

Then if Ron Paul goes indy 3rd Party as well, that’ll peel off some of the Libertarians.

Yep..........hello second term for President Obama. Looks like we have another 4 years of taxpayer-funded Hawaiian vacations and globetrotting with Air Force One to look forward to.


15 posted on 12/23/2011 1:35:19 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Here’s betting that about 20% of the FR respondents will support Trump and that 100% of what they say will be macho emotion and 0% of what they say will make any sense or have any logic.


16 posted on 12/23/2011 1:35:38 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump’s top political adviser Michael Cohen told ABC News. “One thing is for certain, Donald Trump is adamant that Barack Obama must be defeated in 2012 under any circumstances.”

And how do you propose to do that by splitting the anti-Obama vote?? His ego is overruling his reason.

17 posted on 12/23/2011 1:36:36 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: mulligan
All thinking and intelligent people should leave the GOP.

And vote a third party until the GOP reforms into a more conservative party...HEY!!!!...we could even call it the Reform Party! Waddugrate idea!

18 posted on 12/23/2011 1:36:36 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: writer33

He was a trojan horse fraud from the start


19 posted on 12/23/2011 1:37:40 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

It’s the Republican Party fault. If they had a spine, then this would not be happening. If they were more concerned with what their voters thought, than the media and press this would not be happening.


20 posted on 12/23/2011 1:40:06 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Here’s betting that about 20% of the FR respondents will support Trump

I know I'm having an orgasm now thinking of Trump and a third party. LOL! /s

21 posted on 12/23/2011 1:41:52 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rumor has it that Gary Johnson, the former Governor of New Mexico was so disenchanted and upset by the Republican Debate Committee that he's now considering a run as an Independent or Libertarian.

According to what I've read and could find, Johnson was so popular in New Mexico for his fiscal conservatism (Nicknamed "Governor Veto") that he was finally turned out of office due to .... TERM LIMITS. His re-elect numbers were pretty high, still carries a very favorable rating with New Mexico voters.

Among his accomplishments in office were cutting the state budget 10% his first 6 months in office by using his Veto power on more than half the bills presented to him, and consistently reducing taxes to spur growth. That's just not a fiscally conservative record any other Republican running for office can lay claim to, and would likely have a great deal of appeal to moderates/independents who are concerned about Government spending.

The Libertarian party is in progress of heavily recruiting Johnson to run on their ticket. While Johnson was a non-factor in the Republican Polls (which may have alot to do with him being blocked out of the Debates which he performed poorly in, along with Thaddeus McCotter of Michigan) Johnson's running as a Libertarian -- potentially with "The Donald" on the same ticket may be enough to hand Obama the Presidency if the overall Presidential race is close enough, and a Johnson/Trump (or Trump/Johnson) ticket can peel off a few percentage points of the vote.

Among all the other major blunders the Republican Debate Committee has made, denying Johnson a place on stage for the debates may come back to bite them in the ass as much as allowing that nutjob Ron Paul to participate in the debates did.

Not saying I'm endorsing a Trump/Johnson ticket because I'm not. Obama must be beaten at all costs, and chances are good that won't happen with Trump/Johnson (or Johnson/Trump) running as independents, or together on the same ticket in next year's Presidential race.

Posting as food for thought, don't flame me, just putting what I've been reading out there for consideration.

22 posted on 12/23/2011 1:42:16 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SeekAndFind

The whole thing was a fraud, probably engineered in consultation with Obama’s handlers. Why do you think all those left wing talk show hosts helped him get the message out?

Trump is a crony capitalist who relies on political connections to pull off his real estate deals. Almost all of his political donations were to Democrats, plus a few key RINOs.

The trouble is, even a good many Freepers were fooled by his fun and games. So the average voter may well be fooled if he runs third party and says he is a conservative.


23 posted on 12/23/2011 1:43:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Ross Perot gave the election to Clinton.The first step into the abyss....


24 posted on 12/23/2011 1:44:24 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Farmer Dean

Egomaniac for sure and for certain. Wouldn’t even hold my nose to vote for him - just would not. Lying, cheating, low life SOB. Self-serving, obnoxious, bankrupting, T. Boone, J.R Ewing clone. All a bunch of con artists Mr.Haney’s.


25 posted on 12/23/2011 1:44:45 PM PST by Jukeman (Not Romney, not now, not ever!)
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To: GeronL
He was a trojan horse fraud from the start

Absolutely. He's a Democrat -- always has been, always will be.

26 posted on 12/23/2011 1:45:53 PM PST by AnglePark
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To: SeekAndFind

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/group-clears-path-for-a-third-party-ticket/#more-185147

“Elliot Ackerman, chief operating officer of Americans Elect.... Will Marshall, the president of the Progressive Policy Institute, the centrist Democratic research group; Christine Todd Whitman, the former governor of New Jersey and one of a dwindling band of moderate Republicans; Mark McKinnon, the strategist who guided Mr. Bush’s message in 2000 and 2004 but backed Mr. Obama in 2008 and now says his interest is “anything that disrupts the current system,” and Doug Schoen, a pollster who worked for Bill Clinton in the 1990s but is now frequently critical of Democrats.”

LOL~


27 posted on 12/23/2011 1:46:35 PM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' House Speaker in 2012 now!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It that a Ferbie on Trumps head?


28 posted on 12/23/2011 1:47:37 PM PST by Leep
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To: GeronL

“He was a trojan horse fraud from the start”

He can’t be a trojan horse. The present GOP establishment has brought us an ever-expanding government, and Obama himself.

If we don’t eject the present leadership of the GOP - and clean the party apparatus of status-quo elitists, we are destined for much worse than Obama.

Imagine a Marxist/Leninist who didn’t require a teleprompter. Imagine someone with some actual leadership capability and experience.

Obama is too stupid to be the tyrant he would like to be.

The next guy, through political ineptitude resulting in a lack of effective opposition from the GOP might be the death of us all.


29 posted on 12/23/2011 1:48:13 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: upsdriver

After what the GOP did to him—I don’t Blame him. Find a 3rd Party Trump —Might I suggest the Constitution Party? or the Conservative Party? They exist in NY. The GOP will torch anyone who disobeys the RNC. If you doubt this—ask Sarah Palin. The Debate they ditched—has soured Trump—Smile all you Trump haters but be ready to feel his wrath!


30 posted on 12/23/2011 1:48:27 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Sprite518

You still support Trump? This man has NEVER been a conservative, he doesn’t even know what it is. He is being used by Obama to get him reelected. I understand the GOP is bad, but to set a precedent of being used by a moron like Trump is terrible. Don’t you have any respect for the people of the United States?


31 posted on 12/23/2011 1:48:33 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy is a serious jerk, I don’t know why som conservatives think he is so great.
Trump doesn’t give a hoot about the constitution.
Trump is about Trump.

FUDT!


32 posted on 12/23/2011 1:48:43 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I don’t take sucker bets...


33 posted on 12/23/2011 1:49:30 PM PST by thoolou ("I may have invented it, but Bill made it famous." - David Bradley, inventor of Ctrl-Alt-Del)
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To: Sprite518

*puke*
I just threw up in my mouth a little...


34 posted on 12/23/2011 1:50:22 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Sprite518

If the pubbies lose in ‘12, they have no one to blame but themselves.

Most like however, they’ll learn precisely the wrong lesson. I’d be willing to bet that if Obama is re-elected, the GOP will purge the Tea Party elements, blaming the Tea Party for the loss.

I’m not a gambling man, btw.


35 posted on 12/23/2011 1:52:12 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: mulligan
All thinking and intelligent people should leave the GOP.

Not all; some would prefer to stay and fight than quit and run.

36 posted on 12/23/2011 1:52:25 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: mulligan; All
All thinking and intelligent people should leave the GOP.

I agree. The GOP has been screwing us over for a long time and our country will continue its decline with Romney or Obama as president. It is just a matter of how fast it crashes. It is also obvious that the general public still does not understand how big a mess our country is in. If they did, they all would be behind the candidate who has the best chance of making some big changes, and we all would have one target right now, Obama.

37 posted on 12/23/2011 1:54:34 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

That may be the single most confused, stupid and poorly constructed post I’ve seen on FR in a while. I am not sure a single syllable of it is correct frankly. Then again, it takes a very confused and muddled mind to claim to be a conservative and to support Trump.

If you think the forces against Trump are the same forces - or are motivated by the same fears - that are against Palin - your understanding of the body politic is simply non existent.


38 posted on 12/23/2011 1:55:02 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Kind of on the lines of my thinking as well. Trump isn’t my cup of tea but then neither is the Establishment GOP. If our efforts fail to get Palin into the race, I’m writing in her name. I’d bet a dollar to a doughnut the GOP nominee will be Romney. They’ve lost me.


39 posted on 12/23/2011 1:55:22 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: SeekAndFind
Don't Judge Candidates what they say, but by what they do.

Romney = Socialized Medicine

Newt = Believe in man made global warming

Both candidates said they believe in small government? Did either of them ever actually downsize government? Slowing the rate of increase of the growth of government is NOT downsizing government. It's still EXPANDIND and INCREASING the size.

They are the Trojan Horses

40 posted on 12/23/2011 1:55:22 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: writer33

Obama’s reelection trump card goes on line


41 posted on 12/23/2011 1:55:45 PM PST by molson209
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To: Farmer Dean

Exactly.

A 3rd Party run by BOTH Trump and Ron Paul would all but guarantee Obama’s re-election. At that point, Obama can get re-elected even if he’s seen shooting puppies and roasting babies while freebasing on live prime-time TV. He already has, at minimum, 40% of the electorate sewn up.


42 posted on 12/23/2011 1:57:11 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Sprite518

>>>>Trump Cain 2012 >>>>>

Why not Schumer -Palin? How about Pelosi-West? Or maybe Emmanuel - DeMint?

Or do you even have the foggiest notion what I’m talking about?


43 posted on 12/23/2011 1:58:08 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: SeekAndFind

Donny, no matter how hard you try, this election is NOT about you . . . now go back outside and play in your sand box.


44 posted on 12/23/2011 1:58:08 PM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: AnglePark

I think “The Donald” is a political moron...means well but is clueless.


45 posted on 12/23/2011 2:01:23 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

You have no idea how wrong you are.

Many have and are. The republican party will soon be left in the cold.


46 posted on 12/23/2011 2:02:53 PM PST by CSI007
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To: SeekAndFind

How about Palin/Trump


47 posted on 12/23/2011 2:04:04 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: writer33

Rats leaving the ship?


48 posted on 12/23/2011 2:04:40 PM PST by LUV W (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: molson209
Trump threads always reveal the freepers who have a really flexible definition of conservative.

Try to find the difference between a typical democrat's definition of “Pro-Choice” and the Donald's definition of “Pro-Life”. Both believe ultimately its up to the woman.

The man has no conservative track record, yet there are people here who swoon when he says "words". He doesn't actually have to do anything conservative...he just says things. Unbelievable.

49 posted on 12/23/2011 2:07:23 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Trump brought up the eligibility issue and the hatred that he got tells me that he is no leftist. Too many people are listening to the Paul-tards. They are spreading the leftist rumors about Trump, because they see him as a danger to a Paul Ind. run . Maybe that is what Trump is looking at too? Eliminating the Ron Paul factor for Romney?


50 posted on 12/23/2011 2:08:37 PM PST by sushiman
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