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Nurses fired for taping Utah patient's mouth shut
ap ^ | 12/23/11 | ap

Posted on 12/23/2011 2:55:59 PM PST by Nachum

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Two nurses in a Utah hospital's intensive care unit were fired this week for taping a patient's mouth shut and laughing about it, hospital officials said Friday.

Penny Artalejo was admitted to Utah Valley Regional Medical Center in Provo on Dec. 17 with nausea and anxiety from taking medication for chronic neck pain, her daughters told KSL ( http://bit.ly/tbVNuS ).

Artalejo's daughter, Brittany Bilson, told the television station that her mother's teeth were chattering and she was moaning and shaking. Bilson said the nurses told her mother to shut up, taped her mouth closed and joked they would be fired if they were caught.

"It's not right. It's inhumane," Bilson said. "We put our loved ones' lives in their hands. I left the hospital basically thinking she's fine from here, and just more bad happened."

Artalejo said the nurses knew what they were doing was wrong. Though in pain, she said she was alert the whole time.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: fired; nurses; taping; utah
Well, at least we know of two job openings at that hospital now...
1 posted on 12/23/2011 2:56:03 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Does the White House need new nurses?????


2 posted on 12/23/2011 2:58:39 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Nachum
There is a high turnover in healthcare, and for good reason. Many holders of the requisite credentials are just not fit to work with people in helpless situations. These two skanks are excellent examples.
3 posted on 12/23/2011 3:01:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Nachum

Futher Muckers.

Let Vendome at them for say . . . 15 minutes?

I will unmcerciously make the pain and fear known to them in a fashion that is elevated above what they did to this poor woman.

I spent the last 5 years in and out of Hospitals.

All kinds of noise from patients for a variety of reasons.

You just block it out.

I’d beat them with dusty chalk erasures.

Not the little ones, mind you. But the big tan ones used for cleaning a chalk board.

When I knocked all the chalk out of the erasures I’d put em talcum powder and keep on going.....


4 posted on 12/23/2011 3:05:57 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Nachum
I tried to tape my wife's mouth shut...but the battery on the camcorder ran out before I could get the shot.

I haven't spoken to my wife in over three months...we're not fighting, I just don't like to interrupt.

(She loves these jokes! )

5 posted on 12/23/2011 3:07:29 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Vendome
I will unmcerciously make the pain and fear known to them in a fashion that is elevated above what they did to this poor woman.

Good!

6 posted on 12/23/2011 3:08:09 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Hydrocodone? I had a horrible reaction to it last Saturday. On the list of “Side Effects” they called it “Excitability.” Yeah! Right! It was like I was shot into high speed orbit! “Rare serious side effects are depression, ringing in the ears, high blood pressure, elevated pulse rate, itching, muscle stiffness, “ All that, and I only took 1/2 dose. Broken ribs and coughing. My doc went on vacation after phoning in the script.


7 posted on 12/23/2011 3:09:08 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Nachum

Something is wrong with this story....

Patients with nausea and neck pain are not admitted to the ICU.


8 posted on 12/23/2011 3:13:14 PM PST by Gamecock (I am so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it. JGM)
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To: Gamecock

What you said.


9 posted on 12/23/2011 3:17:39 PM PST by heartwood
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To: Nachum

The rehab center where my DIL works can’t accept any new patients until Jan. 31 because the nursing staff flunked a state inspection. Two nurses were caught sleeping in hospital beds, they were feeding a patient solid food when she was supposed to be on pureed food, lots and lots of violations.

The PT and OT staff got a 97% but they will all suffer because of the nurses who are still neglecting their duties which are often done by the PT and OT staffs just because it is to their patients best interests.


10 posted on 12/23/2011 3:23:00 PM PST by tiki
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To: tiki

In defense of ‘real’ nurses - there are few real nurses around in hospitals these days. Those you see in nurse uniforms are nurses aids and those who have taken short nursing courses. Most of the RNs, BSNs and Nurse Practitioners are dedicated and good.


11 posted on 12/23/2011 3:32:09 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Nachum
"We were able to determine it was a very isolated incident," Frank said. "But as a hospital we are fully committed to providing quality and compassionate care. The allegations that were brought forth were completely against that commitment."

I am so sick of this typical PR boilerplate BS. "We are fully committed to providing quality and compassionate care"... except when the staff decides it's amusing to duct tape patients mouths shut.

12 posted on 12/23/2011 3:34:43 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Nachum

While I’ve often imagined myself with two nurses and a roll of tape, this wasn’t one of the scenarios.


13 posted on 12/23/2011 3:37:42 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: hinckley buzzard

I wanted to make extra money and I’ve only ever been a housewife.

I took a job at a retirement home and was so excited, I like old folk and cleaning is my thang.

I made it one day. It was disgustingly evil in my thinking.

The girl[s] ‘training’ me were terrible cold and lacking heart as I see/saw it.

There was a lady who screamed and hollered, and legally we couldn’t touch them. It broke my heart.

She wanted to eat and I could not feed her, we had to get a CNA to do this and they weren’t too enthusiastic.

It seemed my trying to get attention for her was an issue. I treat my whining pups better than these seniors were treated.

Another lady was parked in front of the dining room, just left there—hunched WAY over— supposedly because after lunch there was BINGO and she LOVED BINGO. I was chided for wishing to help.

I can’t imagine that was good for her spine. I’m just regular people but that didn’t seem healthy, to me, and I couldn’t touch/help her. Drove me out of my skin.

My breaking point was when a fella passed away. The girls took turns going into the room and coming out laughing, then asked and condemned me when I would wouldn’t go in for a giggle.

They didn’t seem to understand my opinion that he deserved respect, even if he “isn’t there” as they told me. They told me I was scared. I wasn’t, their game was just sick and twisted.

At lunch the girls played a peacock calling on their cell-phone and told me that was the lady screaming for lunch.

I admit, it did sound like her—help, me...help.

I don’t know...I just know with every fiber of my being that my mother and Aunt will NEVER land in one of those places!

Add to that they loved Spanish and when I said I didn’t speak it, they told me I would and I would understand it if I wanted anything done from laundry.

Terrible, terrible ...

If you have a family member in a retirement home—pay CLOSE attention because some of these folks really have no heart.


14 posted on 12/23/2011 3:49:42 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Gamecock

Yeah, something is fishy with this story. Why would they put her in the ICU? I smell a lawsuit being trumped up.


15 posted on 12/23/2011 4:14:40 PM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: Irenic

Very sad story. I pray to God I never have to be put into such a place.

My mother used to always tell her kids that she would come back to haunt us if we ever put her in a home. We had to put her in a rehab center after she broke her hip. They were all elderly there, and it just killed us even though she was there for only about a month. We arranged our schedules so that one of us was with her almost all of the time from 8 am to 8 pm.

Most of the help there was not at all impressive. Plus they had male nurses taking care of the elderly women, and we girls did not like that at all.

After she got out, we sisters took turns going to her house to care for her for about 10 months until she passed away.


16 posted on 12/23/2011 4:23:07 PM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: Nachum

I wonder if this is true, or if it is a “kaching” thing.

If true, it Sounds like the woman was a druggie in withdrawal, (no one is hospitalized for “neck pain” nowadays)....and the nurses have had it with her acting out...and with the nurses shortage, unless you’ve seen how disruptive patients can put you over the top when you’ve worked two shifts and missed meals and breaks because there is too much work to do...

But as I said: The whole story sounds suspicious.

for example: what did they use to “tape her mouth shut”? Paper tape? Adhesive tape is not the sticky stuff of the old days: Nowadays it’s easy to remove without removing the sking...Were her hands restrained so she couldn’t pull it off?

There are strict protocols for using restraints nowadays.


17 posted on 12/23/2011 4:30:10 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: Dallas59

rofl


18 posted on 12/23/2011 4:30:33 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Nachum
This is an example of why I hope that personal care robots are perfected, before I need such assistance. I'd rather risk getting a Terminator bot, than suffer under a sadistic human. (And, then there's the possibility of getting a fembot in a sexy nurse outfit ....)
19 posted on 12/23/2011 4:57:34 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Bigg Red

After she got out, we sisters took turns going to her house to care for her for about 10 months until she passed away.
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I hope and pray I can give that to my Mother and Aunt. I will do everything in my power to do this. It is sad to think about, I can’t imagine my Mother anything but the toughest—I’ve known nothing or anyone stronger than my mother. God bless you and yours.


20 posted on 12/23/2011 5:28:52 PM PST by Irenic
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To: tiki

When my wife was hospitalized after back surgery she was repeatedly given the wrong medication. The doctor finally had to put in her chart that my mother-in-law or I had to be present to OK meds given to her.

After a C-section my wife rang the nurse call button for two hours. Her urine collecting bag hag overfilled and the floor was flooded with urine. She finally called me and I drove from our house to get the nurses off the phone and into her room to change the bag.

The quality of nursing at that hospital (the state’s best) is deplorable.


21 posted on 12/23/2011 5:36:21 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: ladyjane

I haven’t seen a nurse in uniforn for years. They all wear scrubs now. The nurse’s, the janitors, even some patients.

Remember when you walked into a hospital and the smell of detergent and disinfectant hit you in the nose?
You don’t smell that anymore and some hospitals are dirty you can see fuzzballs in the corners.

Now placing tapeacross a patient that is nauseous sounds like attempted murder to me, I can’t think of anything that is more dangerous and could inspire a patient to aspirate vomitous into their lungs than that.Not many people survive vomitous in the lungs.


22 posted on 12/23/2011 6:51:02 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Are you sure it was Hydrocodone? That is the generic name for Vicodin. It’s a narcotic pain killer whose major manifestations are dizziness and drowsiness, not hyper-activity. Not by any means doubting your story but the effects your experienced seem exactly opposite of what the drug is supposed to do.


23 posted on 12/23/2011 10:30:26 PM PST by CTOCS (I live in my own little world. But, it's okay. They know me there....)
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To: Gamecock

The diagnosis wasn’t given perhaps for privacy reasons(hipaa) but neck pain/nausea issues could be caused by suspected meningitis, angina,MI, post neck surgery,or arrhythmias with neck pain as only minor comorbidity. Influenza might be another cause of sx’s.


24 posted on 12/23/2011 11:06:17 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: Bigg Red

“Plus they had male nurses taking care of the elderly women, and we girls did not like that at all.”

HEY...I RESEMBLE THAT THAR REMARK!...(though the ICU is my abode!)


25 posted on 12/23/2011 11:17:18 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: Venturer

I wear all whites!


26 posted on 12/23/2011 11:20:15 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: CTOCS

Hydrocodone/Hom. And yes, my reactions were eggs ackley the opposite of what is expected. My Sister has the same problem. Spoke to my pharmacist for quite a while. She said that my reaction was not that unusual. See the “side effects.” They call it “Excitability.” High pulse rate, raised BP, itching, etc.. Was completely manic for 5 hours. Doctors abandoned me. I’m extremely pissed at them. Woke up at 2:30 am, coughed, and snapped the ribs again. Ain’t gonna be a fun Christmas!


27 posted on 12/24/2011 1:17:12 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Nachum

We have a large enough family that when one of us is in the hospital, it is a rare hour that goes by without a family member present. I remember reading somewhere that that tends to increase the odds of a successful outcome to treatment as well.


28 posted on 12/24/2011 1:27:32 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: mdmathis6

I am assuming that you are a male nurse. Please don’t be insulted, but, as a woman, I do not want a man as a nurse for some care. Usually, in the ICU you are taking vital signs and monitoring systems that would not offend my modesty, I assume, so that is a different story.

In the place I am describing— and perhaps in many other health care facilities these days, for all I know — there was a male nurse who came in to perform a rectal exam on my dear 94-year-old mother while I was there. I objected.


29 posted on 12/24/2011 3:40:06 AM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: Irenic

Your mother sounds like my mother. My parents raised 9 children, and my sisters and I often marvel at how she did it and made it look easy. Clean house, clean, well-mannered children. She got us off to school each morning with a hot breakfast, a packed lunch, and a neatly pressed school uniform — no “wash and wear” in the 1950s.

On top of it all, what a looker, who always dressed up when she went somewhere. Miss her so....


30 posted on 12/24/2011 3:51:35 AM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: mdmathis6

I honestly have not seen a nurse in whites in years.


31 posted on 12/24/2011 3:55:50 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Bigg Red
I do not want a man as a nurse for some care.

So how do you feel about male doctors?

My GYN is male. He’s wonderful. I’ve been his patient for over 20 years. He delivered two of my best friend’s baby’s. And for many years he had a male nurse assistant. I had no issue with my “modesty” with the male doctor and the male assistant during my exams. They are and always acted as professionals. I know some women who will only see female GYN’s but I’d rather see the best and most competent doctor regardless of gender.

And why would a female performing an “intimate” exam or procedure not offend you? How do you know for sure she’s not a lesbian? : ),

32 posted on 12/24/2011 4:01:50 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

I prefer a female doc. My 4 children were all delivered by male docs, however, and that was not a problem for me.

But if I had had a choice at the time I would have gone to a woman. It wasn’t until years later that I saw my first female GYN. What a difference! Never went to a male GYN again.


33 posted on 12/24/2011 5:27:43 AM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: ladyjane; Venturer

Some nurses were color coded uniforms, Mrs. LVD RN wears midnight blue, LPN’s wear light blue, and nurses aids wear a mauve color.

Those in the medical profession are well aware of different colors for their uniforms,
https://www.scrubadoo.com/store/all-products/

As ladyjane wrote: Most of the RNs, BSNs and Nurse Practitioners are dedicated and good.

(And there are bad ones that don’t last long..!)


34 posted on 12/24/2011 5:48:30 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (VOTE GOP!)
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To: mdmathis6

Ran through those in my own differential diagnosis.
Something still doesn’t add up.

Granted we won’t receive the entire story due to HIPPA, but something still doesn’t add up.


35 posted on 12/24/2011 5:56:38 AM PST by Gamecock (I am so thankful for [the] active obedience of Christ. No hope without it. JGM)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Dr. BP,

Sounds almost like a cocaine high. The Johns Hopkins website does indicate these effects in rare cases. I take Dilaudid (Hydromorphone) and have never had anything but the normal effects. Maybe they could switch you to that or ones of the oxy’s. Anyway, it’s gotta suck not being able to “Ho, Ho, Ho with broken ribs.

Merry Christmas to you and yours. Get well soon.


36 posted on 12/24/2011 9:11:32 AM PST by CTOCS (I live in my own little world. But, it's okay. They know me there....)
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To: CTOCS

Hydrocodone/Hom. And yes, my reactions were eggs ackley the opposite of what is expected. My Sister has the same problem. Spoke to my pharmacist for quite a while. She said that my reaction was not that unusual. See the “side effects.” They call it “Excitability.” High pulse rate, raised BP, itching, etc.. Was completely manic for 5 hours. Doctors abandoned me. I’m extremely pissed at them. Woke up at 2:30 am, coughed, and snapped the ribs again. Ain’t gonna be a fun Christmas!


37 posted on 12/24/2011 9:14:19 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Bigg Red

Yeah and if your mom had had a rectal impaction,which is part of assessments for folks in rehab care and it was not discovered by this male nurse...it might have meant bigger issues for your mother then just immodesty. You think her MALE DOCOTORS are checking such regions every day? You know how many digital disimpactions I do in the ICU because her male or female nurses have not discovered such issues which often are the cause for the cardiac arrythmias that brought her to my ICU in the first place?(and no the doctors male or female haven’t checked “there” as well!)

Nursing isn’t just about the tenderness of mopped brows and kind words and 18th century notions,,,it’s also about the fierceness of the science and evidence based practice that allows one to blow the feeblest of life’s embers back into full flame.

Now we try to be accomodating if female nurses are available and such are desired but often there is not enough to go around just like there are not enough female doctors to go around. Also, many elderly female patients are in excess of 250 lbs or more so if you have a majority of rn’s around 140 lbs or so who are under 5’6” but you have guys who are in excess of 6’ and are very strong, just guess who is going to get 300 lb Miss Matilda in room 22? Males don’t get into the back problems or are on 12 weeks of maternity leave that many female nurses do. Males don’t call in sick very often or have the family issues the females have That’s the reality of it all!

I’ve raised 4 children and have been married 22 years, God has extended blessings to me that I don’t deserve and nursing has been a big part of it all!


38 posted on 12/24/2011 9:29:56 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: Venturer

Our hospital has instituted new policies that nurses wear white blouses or scrub tops and “galaxy blue” scrub pants as part of a policy to help our patients know who the nurses are...the white tops or scrub tops are manditory. We can also wear all white tops, and white pants and the women can wear white dress uniforms if they want. The company has recognized in its marketing surveys that customers want nurses to be recognized as nurses and they don’t like the “wear what you like” enviroments that the hospitals have become. Thus, our hospital system has instituted uniform standards of dress for each ancillary service. Nurses are to wear white tops and “galaxy blue” pants or all white uniforms.

I can’t stand the “metro” galaxy blue coloring so I’ve gone back to all white like in the early days in my career. I find my co-workers say that all white suits me better anyway(”it seems to change you”) and the patient responses tell me that an all white uniform is an easy “foot in the door” when it comes to assessing a new patient for the first time.


39 posted on 12/24/2011 9:45:20 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: mdmathis6

And may God continue to shower blessings upon you.

Merry Christmas!


40 posted on 12/24/2011 9:46:23 AM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: Gamecock

Unfortunately I know that such incidents do happen how-ever, regardless of the questionable facts(or the lack of cogent reporting) of this story. If such a “taping” did occur (the only way the tape could stay on was if the woman’s hands were restrained or the woman was paraplegic in some way...otherwise the woman could pull the tape off) then what was done was unbelievably cruel and unsafe. The nurses should get prison time, not just the loss of their license!


41 posted on 12/24/2011 9:58:37 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: CTOCS

Thanks! If I don’t move, I’m okay. But sooner or later I cough, and they pop. I’ll sleep for a couple hours, then roll over and wake up in pain.


42 posted on 12/24/2011 10:33:02 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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