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The Duke’s Victory (Ron Paul praises David Duke 1990)
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Posted on 12/23/2011 5:30:26 PM PST by mnehring

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To: Jim Robinson
"paultards suck. That's my official policy."

Best damned policy I've ever heard. Better'n Allstate's even.

Hank

51 posted on 12/23/2011 9:02:16 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away. Num)
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To: mnehring; corbe
"I was in Lousyana and campaigned for David Duke."

"You know how there are some thoughts that we have on a daily basis that probably shouldn't be put down on paper or on the interwebs? That was one of them."

Who died and made you the custodian of all that is virtuous? Corbe made an honest post stating a historical fact. Just because there are some who may find it distasteful is not a reason to hide the truth.

You, mnehring are a dishonest dissembler of the truth and have no sense of what is right. You, and people who think like you are the problem in this country.

53 posted on 12/23/2011 9:30:29 PM PST by semaj
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To: corbe

Duke didn’t win the Republican primary—Louisiana didn’t have party primaries at such time. LA had every candidate, irrespective of party, run on the same ballot in the “jungle primary.” Democrat Edwin Edwards finished first in the jungle primary, with Duke finishing second and Republicsn Buddy Roemer finishing third. Since Edwards didn’t get 50%+1 of the vote, he went into a run-off against Duke, and Edwards trounced Duke 61% to 39%.


54 posted on 12/23/2011 9:36:29 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: mnehring

I don’t like Ron Paul but let me say that this and other stories are nothing more than the RINO attack machine in full mode to prevent anyone from overtaking Mitt Romney in Iowa on January 3rd.

Its as simple as that.....

RINO ATTACK MACHINE ALERT.....


55 posted on 12/23/2011 10:06:08 PM PST by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: mnehring

Maybe its just me..but do you notice how junk seems to suddenly surface whenever someone else other than Romney has a lead in Iowa?


56 posted on 12/23/2011 11:22:01 PM PST by floridarunner01
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
"....don’t forget, a cap on your head will help too! Its scientific as 90% of our body heat leaves through our head."

That old wives tale is absolute B.S. I can't locate the link that explains how that erroneous conclusion came from a legitimate study that contained an erroneous calculation.

Just ask any competent Mechanical Engineer for an opinion on that nonsense.

Same with global warming where less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the atmosphere is supposed to have such a huge affect.

57 posted on 12/23/2011 11:30:21 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Buffalo Head
That old wives tale is absolute B.S.

Only if you don't have a coat or a snowsuit on...

If everything else is insulated, the heat flow from the head will be more significant.

(But, iirc, the real number is closer to 40%).

58 posted on 12/23/2011 11:43:44 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: mnehring

Very pleased to see this posting.

Good work, mnehring!!!

MERRY CHRISTmas!!


59 posted on 12/24/2011 1:19:39 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Jean S
All the Ron Paul supporters are so far absent from this thread.
I wonder why.

LOL.

Blessed and Merry CHRISTmas, JeanS!!

60 posted on 12/24/2011 1:22:14 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Jim Robinson
paultards suck. That’s my official policy.

ROTFLMYRonPaulOFF.

Blessed Merry CHRISTmas, Jim! It's Christmas Eve morning.

61 posted on 12/24/2011 1:27:11 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

LOL. You betcha!
GO NEWT!


62 posted on 12/24/2011 1:28:23 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: danielmryan

I’ve read some of Ron Paul’s more recent writings, and the style of this piece looks different.

How do you know that Paul is the author of those recent writings? It will be years before he’ll either claim them or deny them


63 posted on 12/24/2011 3:35:25 AM PST by Figment
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To: Nextrush

No. This isn’t rino BS. This is legit. No one ever cared that much all the years ron paul was perceived as a slight distraction. And while no one paid attention, paul built a super machine that is both fanatic and wealthy.
NOW he is a real and present danger to this country. His views are right in line with obama in many more ways than they differ. Except for the race factor, ron paul holds EXACTLY the same views as the far, far hardcore left. And many of his supporters are equally as vicious as the union thugs and black panther types who support i-bama.


64 posted on 12/24/2011 3:51:45 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: mnehring

Wow. Got sidetracked on those Morton Downey vids. Paul was at his liberal best there


65 posted on 12/24/2011 4:10:07 AM PST by Figment
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To: corbe

Duke didn’t win the Republican primary—Louisiana didn’t have party primaries at such time. LA had every candidate, irrespective of party, run on the same ballot in the “jungle primary.” Democrat Edwin Edwards finished first in the jungle primary, with Duke finishing second and Republicsn Buddy Roemer finishing third. Since Edwards didn’t get 50%+1 of the vote, he went into a run-off against Duke, and Edwards trounced Duke 61% to 39%.


66 posted on 12/24/2011 4:13:10 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Jim Robinson

67 posted on 12/24/2011 4:13:59 AM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Jim Robinson

“paultards suck. That’s my official policy.”

Does this mean that those who support Ron Paul will continue to be tolerated so long as they don’t enter into truther territory? Or does this mean that Ron Paul supporters will be receiving the same treatment that mittens supporters receive?

I’m still here, so I’m assuming the policy is tolerance.

As of this morning, the gop ballot here in Virginia has two candidates on it: Ron Paul and mittens. I don’t happen to like it one bit, but that’s where we’re at. Given the menu choices we have, I’ll pick Ron Paul and urge others to do the same.

Maybe we’ll get incredibly lucky and get a brokered convention and Sarah will emerge as the unity candidate. Unlikely, but I can dream.

What a complete cluster this election is turning out to be.


68 posted on 12/24/2011 5:04:40 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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To: mnehring

Is FR for affirmative action, welfare, and forced busing now?


69 posted on 12/24/2011 6:05:13 AM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: mnehring

Ron Paul hats Air Jordans be must be “rayciss.” Do you think only whites can be racist? Will the Paul haters hold Obozo responsible for sitting in some crazy anti-white preacher’s church for decades?


70 posted on 12/24/2011 7:42:58 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: mnehring

So lets see what these pics say since you are tossing them around like hand grenades.

First one, first paragraph:

“In that same Federalist Paper, Madison wrote:

Instead of being analogous to the power of declaring war, (the president’s power as commander in chief) affords a striking illustration of the incompatibility of the two powers in the same hand. Those who are to conduct a war cannot in the nature of things be proper or safe judges whether a war ought to be commenced, continued, or concluded. They are barred from the latter functions by a great principle in free government, analogous to that which separates the sword from the purse, or the power of executing from the power of enacting laws.”

So what exactly is it about Madison’s statement that you don’t like?


71 posted on 12/24/2011 8:35:34 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I’ll take it you are also a David Duke supporter there as you are trying to change the subject from him.

Gotcha


72 posted on 12/24/2011 8:38:50 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Hold your horses. We are getting there. It is a long page.


73 posted on 12/24/2011 8:43:59 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: mnehring

Wow. I got knocked off line and McCaffee had to block some attacks and reboot. That’s strange.

Next paragraph:

“Jews and Christians Against a Mideast War”

I was pleased to facilitate, and to sign, an ad that ran on the op-ed page of the New York Times last month. It denounced the smear of anti-Semitism used on war opponents, and noted that “America can only be harmed by this war. Our kids killed, our liberties suppressed, our taxes raised, the government engorged, the recession deepened, our Constitution shredded.” It urged those “salivating for war” to “buy rifles and parachute into Baghdad. But not to kill our soldiers and wreck our economy.” The promoters of the war want a “New World Order,” said the ad. We believe in the “old American republic.”

Co-chairmen of the new group are Burt Blumert of the Center for Libertarian Studies and Lew Rockwell of the Mises Institute. Other signers included: Professor Richard M. Ebeling of Hillsdale College, Professor Paul Gottfried of Elizabethtown College Professor Edward Kaplan of Western Washington University, Dr. Gary North of Remnant Review, entrepreneur James Rodney, and Professor Murray N. Rothbard of the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.”

The committee has a small deficit. To help, and to join, send dues of $50 to JCAMW, PO Box 2802, Auburn, AL 36830”

Is this the part you are against, perhaps?


74 posted on 12/24/2011 8:54:35 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: mnehring

Or is it this one.

“The Duke’s Victory

David Duke received 44% of the vote in the Senate primary race in Louisiana, 60% of the white vote, and 9% of the black vote!. This totaled 100,000 more votes the current governor when he won.

Duke lost the election, but he scared the blazes out of the Establishment. If the official Republican hadn’t been ordered to drop out, he might have won. Certainly there would have been a run-off.

Duke’s platform called for tax cuts, no quotes, no affirmative action, no welfare, and no busing. “Tonight, we...” end of page 3.

or is this the part you are objecting to?


75 posted on 12/24/2011 8:58:31 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

You are getting there. Obviously, pimping for Duke, cheering that this Klan leader almost won, promoting the bs propoganda that Duke was just about tax cuts, welfare, etc, is where the line is crossed.

Do you not have a problem with the promotion of a Klan leader? Do you not have a problem with Paul’s cheering the sheep’s clothing the wolf donned knowing full well who the wolf is?


76 posted on 12/24/2011 9:04:41 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

next page.

“concede the election,” he said. “But we will never concede our fight for equal rights for all Americans.

To many voters, this seems like just plain good sense. Duke carried baggage from his past, but the voters were willing to overlook that. And if he had been afforded the forgiveness an ex-communist gets, he might have won.

Liberals like Richard Cohen of the Washington Post say he got so many votes because Louisianians were racists and ignorant. Baloney.

David Broder, also of the Post and equally liberal, writing on an entirely different subject, had it right: “No one wants to talk about [race] publicly, but if you ask any campaign consultant or pollster privately, you can confirm the sad reality that a great many working-class and middle-class white Americans are far less hostile to the rich and their tax breaks than they are to the poor and minorities with their welfare and affirmative-action programs.”

Liberals are notoriously blind to the sociological effects of their own programs. David Duke was hurt by his past. How many more Dukes are there waiting in the wings without such a taint?”

Is this the offensive part?


77 posted on 12/24/2011 9:06:29 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Yes, because as I said before, it is telling the world that the wolf in sheep’s clothing is just a sheep. It is promoting the one of the most vile humans around because he said a few cute words knowing full well he was lying.

Or do you believe David Duke is for ‘equal rights for all Americans’? Are you that gullible?


78 posted on 12/24/2011 9:09:03 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Already answered your question David Duke fan.

So what is it you like about David Duke?

Is it the Klan robes? Is it the cozying up to Ahmadinejad? Is it the hosting of Holocaust denial conferences?

Tell us.

79 posted on 12/24/2011 9:11:29 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Still got a bit more to get through the entire post.
Or this one.

“More Federal Spying

On September 1, a federal data bank for tracking physicians, dentists, and other health-care professionals began operating at a cost of $16 billion. It will accumulate data on 50,000 providers in the first year. When a doctor is sued, his name is put on a blacklist. Since 80% of the OB-GYN doctors are sued, many innocent physicians will be blacklisted wrongly.

This program is designed to monitor physicians, but it will spread to all professions and businesses. If it is right for physicians, why not for attorneys, business people, and everyone else?”

Ouch. I didn’t remember this one. So is this the offensive part?


80 posted on 12/24/2011 9:11:29 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
If you don't see a problem with helping hide who Duke is and helping trick the world that the wolf isn't a wolf because he is wearing sheep's clothing, you have some serious issues. Maybe you are a David Duke fan for a reason?


81 posted on 12/24/2011 9:13:12 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Or this paragraph.

“Kempocrisy

Liberal Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) recently pointed out that Jack Kemp’s 27-person public affairs office is spending its time on Kemp’s next campaign instead of HUD.

Mikulski, chairman of the appropriations subcommittee that oversees HUD, deleted the funding to cries of anguish from Kemp. Undoubtedly it will be restored, but I still enjoyed the whole thing.”


82 posted on 12/24/2011 9:14:45 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: mnehring
Ron Paul Pictures, Images and Photos
83 posted on 12/24/2011 9:14:45 AM PST by madmaximus (Anyone But Robamney.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

So you are a fan of Democrat Senator Barbara Mikulski now and support HUD?

Are you sure you are on the right forum. First supporting David Duke, then supporting a Democrat Senator, then supporting HUD?


84 posted on 12/24/2011 9:17:42 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

or the final paragraph posted.

“U.N. Tyranny

I recently visited a Congressional friend involved in foreign affairs, and he told me that the administration may push

— end of page 4 —”

That was the sum total of the text for the two pages posted from the newsletter, which was at least 5 pages long.


85 posted on 12/24/2011 9:17:52 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: mnehring

Have a Merry Christmas.

I am off to visit family.

I have read the two pages that you posted. I don’t think the weight of the paper supports the claims you are making against Ron Paul.

I prefer to see accurate claims made, not hyperbolic claims.


86 posted on 12/24/2011 9:23:47 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Actually, that last one really says a lot. If you remember, Kemp was attempting to greatly overhaul and reform HUD, reducing it in size and scope and the Democrats, led by Mikulski, were attacking him.

It says a lot about Ron Paul if he sided with the Democrats here due to his hatred of Republicans.


87 posted on 12/24/2011 9:25:43 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I see you are playing the game of intentional misunderstanding. This post is about, “The Duke’s Victory” section of the newsletter.


88 posted on 12/24/2011 10:37:19 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: MestaMachine

I’m not here to cheer on Ron Paul, but its sad that we have to choose between him and business as usual Republicans like Romney and Newt.

A lot of good people were elected in the wave that brought Newt to the speaker’s position.

But his Contract With America did not say flat out that government power and size would be reduced.

One part I remember was that the government rules and regulations would apply to Congress like everyone else.

The real issue is the government rules and regulations in the first place, not who they apply to.


89 posted on 12/24/2011 11:25:11 AM PST by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’d rather be a Paultard than a goose-stepper.


90 posted on 12/24/2011 12:21:52 PM PST by Misterioso
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To: Misterioso

Then go be one. Don’t let the door hit ya.


91 posted on 12/24/2011 12:29:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Misterioso
“...rather be a Paultard than a goose-stepper.”

A distinction without a difference.

92 posted on 12/24/2011 12:33:12 PM PST by decal (I'm not rude, I don't suffer fools is all.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Fortunately, I don’t have to choose.


93 posted on 12/24/2011 1:08:26 PM PST by Misterioso
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To: freeandfreezing
Only because he tried to run as a Republican. If he was a Democrat he'd be fine, like Sen. Byrd.
Unlike Byrd or Wallace, Duke never repudiated his past. He revels in it.
94 posted on 12/24/2011 3:45:39 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: mnehring

90% of the black vote for David Duke? In a GOP primary, sure.


95 posted on 12/24/2011 5:17:04 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: WilliamHouston
Is FR for affirmative action, welfare, and forced busing now?

Where'd that silly question come from?



Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.

Do it!

96 posted on 12/24/2011 6:00:46 PM PST by rdb3 (><>The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart. <><)
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To: Figment
How do you know that Paul is the author of those recent writings?

I'm the fellow who said that Jack Cashill should look into the matter.

97 posted on 12/24/2011 6:26:01 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: mnehring
I guess you missed the part where he cheered ‘scaring the blazes out of the establishment’ and saying he made good sense

Not really, but apparently you don't understand the sentence containing the reference to good sense:

"Duke’s platform called for tax cuts, no quotas, no affirmative action, no welfare, and no busing. “Tonight, we concede the election, “ he said. “But we will never concede our fight for equal rights for all Americans.”

To many voters, this seems like just plain good sense. Duke carried baggage from his past, but the voters were willing to overlook that."

The sentence containing the phrase "plain good sense" refers back to the sentence on Duke's platform of tax cuts, no quotas, no affirmative action, no welfare, and no busing. It obviously doesn't refer to Duke himself, or Duke's racist views, characterized as "baggage from his past" which the article indicates those who voted for him were willing to overlook due to their approval of the ideas in his platform.

Do you consider tax cuts racist? Do you think advocating an end to quotas and affirmative action is racist? Do you think Ward Churchill is a racist? Is ending or reducing welfare racist? Do you think Bill Clinton is a racist? Do you think busing is a good idea? Few conservatives would say "yes" to any more than one of those questions.

You obviously don't like Ron Paul, and that is an opinion you are certainly entitled to share. But arguing that some article which states that an endorsement of a platform of ideas like cutting taxes and ending affirmative action quotas is "plain good sense" is evidence of racism plays right into the hand of the most ardent liberal who sees every conservative political idea as racist.

Put more simply, if the Republican party advocated cutting taxes, reducing welfare, and ending affirmative action and quotas, would that make them a racist organization?

98 posted on 12/24/2011 6:52:18 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Apparently you fell for the wolf in sheep’s clothing too. Just because he claimed to stand for those things doesn’t change who he was or what he really stood for. They were window dressing and Paul was empowering him.

It is as bogus as the BNP saying their only goal is reduce crime.

I would suggest reading Goethe’s Faust sometime.


99 posted on 12/24/2011 7:53:59 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
They were window dressing and Paul was empowering him.

That is a nonsensical argument. Paul is not endorsing or supporting Duke in the article, he is commenting on how apparently the voters - including 9% of the African Americans who voted - chose to hold their noses and vote for Duke based on the identified portions of his platform in spite of Duke's "baggage".

The article is really arguing that voters supported a certain set of ideas often associated with conservatives and libertarians, such as cutting taxes and ending quotas in spite of the odious nature of the particular candidate.

100 posted on 12/24/2011 8:35:36 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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