Skip to comments.Gingrich, Perry fail to make Va. ballot
Posted on 12/24/2011 7:43:46 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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Considering the number of candidates who WON’T be on the Virginia ballot, it sounds like the state’s requirements may result in most of the candidates ignoring Virginia and the issues it cares about.
Shooting themselves in the foot?
I guess they are all going to add millions more to they’re income before they are stopped.
But hey let’s all fight that Gingrich is a good guy or that any of them are but maybe Bachmann,possibly Santorum and Perry.
Huck is a Ron Paul supporter.
You hit this squarely on the head as well as a Saturday news dump on Christmas eve.Nothing to see here move along...
The failure of Bachmann, Huntsman and Santorum was reported earlier. Perry next, now Gingrich. They’re all getting space as the news is released.
As I understand it, the difference between Bachmann-Huntsman-Santorum and Gingrich-Perry is that the former didn’t even turn in signatures. Gingrich and Perry did, but came up short.
Sounds like Virginia’s bar is too high.
Oh, ok, so Huck isn't liberal.
He's nucking futs.
It’s a simple solution really:
If you can write-in a candidate, write them in.
If not, everyone who supports Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Gingrich, or Huntsman should vote for Paul in VA to deny Mitt ALL of the delegates.
Virginia is winner-take-all. If Paul ins VA, Mitt gets no delegates there and it is a major FAIL!
If these guys can’t even manage to get their paperwork in to get on the ballot, how are we suppose to trust them with our vote to run this nation?
And what is so sad - the ones that DID get their ballot filings done - are absolutely undesirable.
Ladies and Gentlemen - the USA is officially screwed.
It's been reported that it was due to lack of addresses for Newt, don't know about Perry. No further details are known at this time. Whether these were largely from one region or dispersed over all districts, whether someone could have deliberately sabotaged the effort (as has been suggested) is unknown. Of course sabotage rarely happens(we hope).
The other candidates (Bachmann etc)did not even submit signatures. I don't know if they just decided not to submit signatures because they had less than 10,000, or some other reason.
The 2 people who qualified (Romney and Paul)have had previous attempts at running and no doubt knew to take advantage of the 15,000 rule. Since they submitted more than 15,000 signatures they were exempt from verification of things such as addresses, and their qualification is deemed rather than verified.(these rules apparently were well known in advance).
Good theory in thought but think about it a little further it also enables Obama an easier win.This whole mess is insane.
Oh stop it ! I don’t support the nut Ron Paul or Mitt Romney(born ready to become president) but in this case, it is perry and gingrich who messed it up. It is not a secret that gingrich is lacking the organization. Little bit surprised about perry. Probably in the last 2 months, perry had lost lot of supporters ! There is no big conspiracy ! This is what it is !
Too many hoops (Or red tape)? Maybe so, but Romney and Paul seemed to get the work done.
Clearly you've never spent any length of time in Northern Virginia.
I read that years ago the Democrats under the Harry Flood Byrd, Sr., organization kept down voter turnout to make it easier for the elite to say entrenched. Poll taxes were one way, but what else, I don’t recall? VA will surely give Romney 75 percent and “convince” many that he can sweep the South. Are write-ins allowed or counted there?
Afraid so. Communists have spent many years knowing how to screw the system. America is in the failing descend.
My point was that even the dems are not at all pleased with Obama.His liberal base has dwindled.I would bet if his signatures were audited there are Mickey Mouses.From what Ive read 15K and over and no audit.No one even looks at them???
If you don't have a ground game (read $$$money$$$ here folks), or if you get in late, you will not qualify to get on the ballot in VA.
I'm OK with that.
We can just consider it the sober alternative to Iowa and NH.
I expect the ABR crowd will coalesce around Paul and his win there will not affect the race overall.
Unless, of course, the GOP convention then goes to brokerage.
No tellin' what could come out of that.
I was in northern Virginia for a few days in July; you are right, I saw Obama stickers and signs in several locations; none for any Republicans. VA is more liberal than most think. Proof: that ol’ John Warner, who never met a liberal cause he did not embrace
I think the supporters of the other candidates in VA will vote for Romney, as they are anti-Paul. They lack sophistication to try to negate a Romney win.
You are correct on that matter.
However, that does not mean that they will come running to a joke like Gingrich or someone like Bachmann or Santorum. In fact, the establishment here likes Romney and is rooting hard for Romney - and I know this for a fact.
Just watch: the GOP nominee will be Romney. The GOP establishment will do anything - even buying or forging votes and strong-arming delegates - to get Romney, and yes, they do despise the Tea Partiers as provincial rubes.
Newt could always run as a third party candidate like anyone else and he wouldn’t need to qualify in Virginia!
And who were the VOLUNTEERS doing the validating affiliated with? Maybe Mittins? Like you said, it seems suspicious to me to have one set of volunteers validating the information of another set of volunteers.
“Yes, Virginia, there is no Santorum clause...”
He is? Where did you get that from?
We need to stop talking about all the broken conventions & palin entry at the late stage and so on. No one stopped us from going behind a conservative candidate. We keept going from one candidate to other except for Rick sanatorum. 2 days back Rush says, if Rick sanatorum becomes president, I will not worry about what he is going to do next. If that is the case, why the hell we cannot stand on principles and support a conservative Rick Sanatorum. He does not have executive experience? or he supported the rhino for senator in his state? Need to come out with better excuses. No point in trying to talk about sarah palin or other conservatives who are not in the race.
Let us atleast support Romney & try to drag him to the conservative side
From what Ive read 15K and over and no audit.No one even looks at them???
That even speaks worse to Gingrich and Perry if all they needed was 15,001 signatures and they were on the ballot. How damn lazy can the campaigns be?
But then I don’t believe what you’ve read to be correct. JMO.
I grew up in this area, and although I want to leave at some point, I'm stuck here for now.
VA is more liberal than most think.
Virginia isn't necessarily liberal.
However, Virginia is for Big Government paid for by someone else. And, that's not entirely unreasonable, as Virginia is a major beneficiary of Big Government, particularly at the federal level. The major economic zones - Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads - are all awash with Federal dollars, mostly "defense" and "homeland security" funds.
Yes they did. Practice makes perfect.
Probably, we should all get “Anybody other than Obama” sticker. Even in places like chapel hill, NC-—they have 2012 stickers all over the place. They had it for John kerry too ! It does not mean a thing !
TitansAFC, I know it's Christmas Eve and you're from Illinois, but it's probably not a good idea to drink this early in the day.
If Huck is a Ron Paul supporter, this is the first that I have heard of it.
Thank you for the most intelligent post on this thread.
He did it to Black Pampers member Bobby Rush.
That's a very dangerous game to play.
One, you could get someone worse than Obama. Romney comes to mind.
Two, by giving in to "anyone but Obama," you signal that this election is not about electing folks who will govern according to the Constitution but merely about defeating Obama. At that point, you lose - judging by the polls, large swaths of the electorate still like Obama personally, even if they are not amused by his style of governing.
“Dont kid yourself...the GOP establishment is going to do whatever is necessary to get the nomination to Romney.”
Yep, It’s obvious they had a hand in trashing Herman Cain too.
Getting tired of coronations, the system is badly broken.
So wrong on so many levels.
I was not advocating for Palin or anyone else to get in the race. We have a crowd now, thank you.
Please give me an example of when it would be a good idea to vote for Romney in a GOP primary?
The only problem is - a vote for Mitt is just as stupid as a vote for Obummer... Ugh.
In May, if still Santorum is running, I will vote for him in North Carolina ! If not, I will support Romney because he cannot be bad on Economy. All the other issues, there is no way he can do any thing without conservative base. Ask bush/cheney when they tried to nominate women judge to supreme court. Even cheney came in Rush to explain but we did not accept. But leaving Obama again will be death of conservatives/Republicans/capitalistic America
When people start smelling the benefits of socialism, they will stick with democrats for few more years till we all go bankrupt. Economy will get better from 2012 to 2016 and we can run the best candidate in 2016 and he/she will not win.
“Charles Borromeo, John Bosco, Theresa Lisieux and Catherine Sienna signatures would have passed through without any questions.”
Oh, at first I thought that saints had signed his petition - then I saw that you were making it up. :)
Like lot of people, I went from Bachmann to perry to cain to gingrich and I will vote for Sanatorum(if he still runs in may). But what are we supposed to do? Is there any other alternate scenario. Please tell me and I will follow you
It appears to be Establishment Political Engineering.
We are in over our heads in Debt and Corruption.
This one is good ! I can do that !
Exactly. We are so screwed. The Establishment Machine is going to force Romney on us, whether we like it or not.
Its totally broken.
The smart candidates saw ahead of time the hopeless situation, they saw the theater with floor drops and stagehands with hooks awaiting.
And the sheeple are bleating that they are scared and the NEED a leader, they don’t care who, they don’t look under his sheepskin, they don’t even stop to sniff to smell if he is one of them.
Its no wonder the underdogs will be the Independents.
I would not dismiss any Independent candidate at all right now, or one that waits until the very last minute, just to pee in the political pool so to speak.
That is exactly how he won his elections in Illinois.
“Well, the insiders are counting the votes.”
Yep! The Virginia rules benefit those who spend 5 years running for President, and hurt anyone who doesn’t have a lot of money and personnel early on.
However, the idea of Virginia only having two candidates on the GOP ballot is bizarre. If I was a Virginia voter, I’d vote RonPaul to screw the GOP.
Each state has different procedures, therefore the candidate with the most money can purchase the organization to get on the ballot.
You are right - Insane!
The only decent thing to do is vote Ron Paul in Virginia. Don’t worry, it’s not not enough delegates to get Ron to win, but it’s enough to slow down Mitt - and show that Republicans won’t have a candidate dictated to them.
(Full disclosure: I think Ron Paul’s a whackjob.)