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Posted on 12/24/2011 8:12:06 AM PST by wgflyer
...I want to believe in alt power, because sun and wind are free -- just as petroleum is free. It's only the extraction and distribution that cost...
I want to believe in Santa and free lunches.
Anything free they’ll tax out of reach. Anything expensive they’ll subsidize.
Thank you very much for that. I mistakenly put the link in the wrong place. Apologies to all.
Liberals believe in fairy dust and unicorn farts.
Well, belief is fine, but there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch!
"When utilities install solar and wind generators, they must also build natural gas turbines and keep them idling for rapid reaction to sags on the grid. Gas turbines must be used because they can be brought online quickly (it takes three days to spool up a nuke, a day or more to bring up a coal facility, slightly less for a combined cycle natural gas plant). However, gas turbines are only about 30% efficient, about half the efficiency of a combined cycle generator (a natural gas plant that uses both turbine and steam power). That's why gas turbines are not used for base-load generation. The end result is that when utilities install alt-generation capacity, they must put in new gas turbine generation as well, and the carbon output of the latter at least offsets that saved from the alt sources. What kind of a bargain is that?"
We take Beano.
The green propeller heads just can’t seem to process the fact that we have no way of storing the AC power. You always need backup conventional power plants ready to go when you have windmills or solar on the grid. Chu is beyond stupid.
It makes you wonder how many times they have to explain to Chu and Obama for that matter that you can’t use giant fans to keep wind turbines turning. Obama is such a failure at Constitutional law, there is no way he’d understand the Law of Conservation of Energy.
A Nobel laureat in physics cannot be expected to know about electro-mechanical inefficiencies.
They only have to know politics, and be on the "right side", meaning the LEFT side.
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