Skip to comments.Three U.S. citizens killed in Mexico attacks
Posted on 12/24/2011 10:08:45 AM PST by Dallas59
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Three U.S. citizens were among those killed when gunmen attacked buses in the eastern Mexican state of Veracruz, said a U.S. State Department official said on Saturday.
The three were traveling for the holidays when they and several other passengers on the bus were killed by gunmen on Thursday, according to the U.S. official and local media.
The incident was one of several that day in which gunmen attacked busses in the eastern state, a major oil export hub that has lately become a flashpoint for drug gang violence.
On Friday, the tortured bodies of 10 people were found in northern Veracruz, local media reported, as attacks in the region intensify between the Zetas gang and Gulf drug cartels.
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Just some broken eggs, folks. Nothing to get concerned about.
I can understand Mexico’s allure pre-cartels. But now? Why take the risk? Is any area really safe in that forsaken country?
I’m guessing this story is not going to appear on the mexicotaxiproject.com.
How about a vacation in Mexico everyone?
Travel to Mexico, what a smart idea. /sarcasm
I’m not sure how dangerous Mexico is, anyway, compared to places like East St. Louis, IL. I remember some Mexican American non-coms on the Army, who were nicest, most family oriented people (aside from Mormons, possibly) that I had ever known in my life.
How about a vacation in Mexico everyone?
It turns out that the drug violence is confined to the drug corridors.
Killings in Chicago don’t make Omaha a risky place to visit.
How stupid are/were these people?
Americans died because of illegal drug use in the US? American illegal drug users - too stupid, lazy and chicken to change their reality, so they take illegal drugs to try and escape their reality for a few minutes and thereby fund some of the most heinous criminals the world has ever known.
I can carry a gun in East St. Louis.
Spot on analysis, Blueunicorn6.
Confusing isn’t it when I ask myself, “Who produced Mexico?”
I avoid East St. Louis. But that’s easy for me.
If it is the story I'm thinking of (and not another killing by the Mexican bandits) they were legals going back home to visit family for the holidays.
Due to corruption and violence at the border, many Legals are taking the bus these days rather than trying to drive. The days of going home with just a $50 bribe to the border guards is apparently over.
Somehow I don't find that too reassuring. Is there a map of the free-fire zones?
The popular coastal towns are generally safe. Avoid the areas that are in the major north-south corridors. Note how Puerto Vallarta is off the corridor, but Mazatlan is on it. Cabo and Cancun would also appear safe.
“But now? Why take the risk?”
Many illegals holding false citizanship return home during the Holidays to aquire new identies so as to avoid income and fica taxes. They file exempt and when the feds come looking for them that one can’t be found.
Were the guns provided by the US government?
My brother-in-law is from Honduras and used to vacation there with my sister and their kids. I've gone with them a few times but they now refuse to go back there again because it's become so dangerous.
While drugs are on the rise there, kidnappings and protection rackets are rampant.......
RightGeek ~ Somehow I don't find that too reassuring. Is there a map of the free-fire zones?
I have a cousin who spent most of her life in Latin America, she was running a charcoal plant in semi-rural Mexico, off of the beaten path, away from drug corridors.
She ended up having to leave rather quickly for "health" reasons, and mourns the loss of her house, all of her worldly possessions that wouldn't fit in a couple suitcases, and most of all her dogs.
She doesn't feel it is safe enough for her to mount a rescue operation for her dogs.
She's not one to panic, she spent years living in Columbia...
Sadly, it's turned into a cesspool. I also remember when border towns like Tijuana and Juarez were cheap, good times for American travelers. Veracruz has been off-limits for a while now.
I guess I'll give kudos to the drug lords for keeping the violence, more or less, south of the border. I can still travel the streets of Chula Vista or Imperial Beach safely. Hopefully, it stays that way, for a while anyways.
If you want to know what the drug violence in Mexico looks like, google "chainsaw execution" and don't say I didn't warn you. And the next time you put a bong to your lips or snort a line up your nose, think of those two guys. They paid a pretty high price.
...Still, probably safer than E. St. Louis though...
I grew up in Southern California. Mexico never held any allure for me, but I do know that lots of folks used to like to shop and play there.
Even as a kid, though, we understood that Mexico wasn't the safest of places. But in today's world, you have to wonder what sort of fool would risk their life for anything across that border.
More of the story from the Fort Worth Star-Telegram
BW ping (more at post #25)
My question too. Complicity in murder flows all the way to the 1/2 white house.
What they hey? We got the Mexican and U.S. governments and tourist folks telling us how safe Mexico is. We should believe them until the evidence . . . uhm . . .proves . . . er . . . otherwise. Never mind.
Mexico is a large country? Who knew?
Exactly! That was my question. Did Obama provide the guns for these murders also?
I personally wouldn't go down into Mexico if ya took me in a complimentary, fully stocked Lear jet.
He's not smart enough to know, the cartels ship worldwide, and now control about 40 percent of the Mexican government...Not to mention some of the big cruise lines too. How many U.S. politicians are on their payroll?
I'd bet a whole lot of them.
You are failing to follow the discussion of how some areas are different from others. Imagine that!
Oh yeah, I forgot about Mexico’s great safe vacation spots, that you go to. lol..
We used to go salt water fishing in Mexico years ago, when it was safe and fun. You couldn’t force me at gun point to cross that border today.
If you have any liberal friends or relatives, an excellent Winter Solstice present might be a prepaid bus trip vacation to sunny and warm (sometimes really hot) Meheco. Rates are sooooo looooow now. You can save by buying only a one way bus ticket, the return can be by cheaper freight. If that is beyond your budget, Food Stamp President or Slow Joe bobble head Chia pets are an excellent choice.
Once there was an America that would have sent troop sout of the border over this sort of thing. A real TR might have done so—and not the limp -wristed Metro-sexual we have as president now. Mexico is alot closer and more of a danger to us than Iran or Iraq.
People have been using drugs(including alcohol) for thousands of years. Animals consuming substances to change their reality is a part of nature. Not only in humans, but countless other organisms. Outlawing it is like trying to outlaw sex.
Outlawing something that grows in the ground for pennies only ensures this unstoppable market is supplied by violent criminals selling dangerous, dirty products (drug dealers are today's violent bootleggers hawking bathtub gin). Legalizing ensures clean, safe products sold by legitimate nonviolent businesses. Look at the liquor stores and distilleries of today versus bootleggers. Also look at the clean, nonviolent drugstores of the 20th century that sold cocaine and heroin over the counter.
Yes, some people were addicted but nobody had to steal to support their addiction or use dirty drugs. In 1900, a middle-class housewife could have afforded a cocaine addiction and openly discussed it with her doctor as a medical condition. Today, that addiction would cost tens of thousands every month. As a result, an addict will steal $100,000 in property, fence it for $10,000 and pay a violent dealer for a dirty, unknown drug that could harm them for life. They don't ask for help with their illness because they would be looked upon as criminals or scum.
And the majority of true addicts are not “too chicken” to change their reality. They have psychological issues that make reality a terrible place. Often as a result of child abuse or trauma. Even though prohibition has made them more expensive than gold, drugs are still cheaper than paying $150+ per hour for real therapy. I have experience working with substance abuse patients and still have friends that are certified abuse counselors. Putting these sick people in prison does nothing but make their reality worse and only ensures they will start using within hours of release. It's easy to look at an addict and call him/her scum or chicken that should be caged. It's a bit harder to actually talk to them and find they were abandoned and used by their family and "friends" all their life- discarded like trash into the street after getting old enough to refuse being sold to "dad's" friends (a true story that still haunts me).
If there were a crime wave in Toronto, would you avoid Vancouver?
If there were a crime wave in Toronto, would you avoid Vancouver?
You compare Canada to the endless brutal violence down in Mexico?
Would ya like to see some real violent pics from our great neighbors down in Mexico?
There are thousands of pics, hundreds that show headless people hanging from freeway overpasses, dumped into the streets, fields, etc.
Lemme know if you'd like to see some real graphic ones. Of course it might be too graphic for the easily offended here.
Below is where a whole bunch of dead people were just recently dumped out of trucks, onto the roadway in broad daylight...Mexican style.
I have too.
Problem is you can't do it legally.
You’re missing the whole point about the differences among Mexican regions.
No, I’m not missing anything.
Enjoy your vacation in the gringo hotels down in ol’ Mehico. As long as the cartels keeping getting their cut, ya should be safe. Best of luck amigo!
Good ideer. Like the folks in the story, you might not even need a return ticket!
You'll find it in your local library stacked right next to the free-fire zone map of Hades.
Still, if you are persuaded and do travel, then when things go haywire, like they did for these folks, you'll at least get to meet Elvis.
I smell a whiff of bigotry in your persistent hostility.
And you still ignore the point that there are places where the drug crime has not intruded.
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