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Rich Chinese couple's 8 babies spark anger (Uproar and possible fine for violating one child policy)
MSNBC ^ | 12/25/2011

Posted on 12/25/2011 6:55:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

BEIJING — A rich Chinese couple who had eight babies with the help of two surrogate mothers has been forced to move out of their villa following a public uproar and could face a large fine for breaching strict family planning laws mandating only one child.

The couple in the booming southern metropolis of Guangzhou had the children last year, according to state media, but the story only came to light after a picture of the children — four boys and four girls — was used by a photography studio in an advertisement.

The story was first featured in the Guangzhou Daily on Monday. The English-language website China Daily carried a picture of what appeared to be the eight babies, credited to the newspaper, although with part of their faces blurred.

A separate China Daily report quoted a photographer surnamed Li from the photo studio, QQ Baby, in the Tianhe district of Guangzhou.

"The photo shoot was a mess," he said. "Some of the babies were crying, some were sleepy, while the others were crawling around."

Li said that after a whole afternoon's hard work, only a dozen photos had been taken, and just two of those were satisfactory.

The octuplets, four boys and four girls, now have 11 nannies, with eight caring for them, two cleaning the house and one preparing food, the report said.

Reuters said the couple turned to in vitro fertilization after years of trying to have children and spent nearly $157,800 (one million yuan) on the procedure, state television reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: children; china; depopulation; elite; global; plutocracy; wealth

1 posted on 12/25/2011 6:55:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This should make the average Chinese person angry, but then there is so much they should be angry about.


2 posted on 12/25/2011 6:58:06 AM PST by dog breath
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m still 14 months away from my baby girl from China. But I’ll be happy to give a few of these a new (and better) home.


3 posted on 12/25/2011 7:00:36 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Leave them alone. Isn’t having 8 babies punishment enough.

Merry Christmas and a very PC New Year.


4 posted on 12/25/2011 7:02:08 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: SeekAndFind

Capitalists!


5 posted on 12/25/2011 7:10:56 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist - VRW Conspirator)
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To: rintense

“I’m still 14 months away from my baby girl from China...”

It is a long, hard wait (I know). No matter how much you think you prepare for the referral picture.... be prepared to cry, laugh, jump for joy and fall in love (all at the same time!) Good luck!


6 posted on 12/25/2011 7:19:50 AM PST by momtothree
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To: dog breath
This should make the average Chinese person angry, but then there is so much they should be angry about.

Maybe from your perspective, but for people who have lived there all their lives, they've never had it so good.

7 posted on 12/25/2011 7:36:52 AM PST by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: SeekAndFind
The octuplets, four boys and four girls, now have 11 nannies, with eight caring for them, two cleaning the house and one preparing food, the report said.

Say what you will, but this couple has done more to stimulate the Chinese economy and create jobs for Chinese workers than salting their bucks away in Switzerland would have.

Regards,

8 posted on 12/25/2011 7:52:18 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: SeekAndFind

Are they going to kill the “excess” children?


9 posted on 12/25/2011 8:41:52 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: rintense

Bless you! I wish I had adopted from China years ago. They are beautiful children.


10 posted on 12/25/2011 10:02:31 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Still heartless after all these years...)
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To: morphing libertarian

Obama would say so!


11 posted on 12/25/2011 10:46:56 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: momtothree

Thank you so much. I’ve been waiting since my LID in April 2007. Back then, the estimated wait was 18-24 months. HA!


12 posted on 12/25/2011 11:34:34 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: miss marmelstein

It was an easy decision, especially knowing what fate awaits most girls and women in China. Besides, we need more strong, conservative chicks in the USA! And that is what she will be. :)


13 posted on 12/25/2011 11:35:58 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: rintense

We waited from start to finish two years and five months before the referral picture. That had changed since some in our group had done everything within a 9-12 month timeline. We had to get several documents done over... I am sure you have had to have most documents done again. All I can say is this time period is your LABOR. (that is how I looked at it). Believe me, when you hold that referral picture, all that time of waiting, filing this document, the home study, etc, etc, etc... will all seem trivial and so worth it!!


14 posted on 12/25/2011 12:17:57 PM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree
Believe it or not, all my documents were cleared. Pretty amazing, too. My timeframe from approval to LID was extremely fast in order to get in before the new rule changes in May 2007. My home study began in December and all paperwork was sent to the agency before April 1st. Had to call my congressman to get my docs rushed through in Detroit, but it happened. Thank goodness!

I tell people I've been pregnant for 4 years. They laugh. :)

15 posted on 12/25/2011 1:03:44 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: rintense

That was actually very nice of your Congressman to get the documents rushed through in Detroit. We actually had people stop asking about the adoption. They just assumed either we couldn’t, or something had gone wrong since the time was so long. I couldn’t blame them. We were told 12 months from start to finish. We had a very large Christening party for her a few months after she got home. We had to give a little “speech” before dinner and we thanked everyone for being so supportive for so long. I also said that the bible says God knows our name before we were formed in the womb. Our little girl was a rare exception since we all knew her name before she was formed as well. I don’t think there was a dry eye in the place!


16 posted on 12/25/2011 1:18:02 PM PST by momtothree
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To: rintense

My hairdresser is Chinese. She and her husband escaped many years ago. She’s an American citizen with about 5 daughters! All of them have gone on to college and good careers.


17 posted on 12/25/2011 2:06:06 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Still heartless after all these years...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yup...and lets keep “Free Trading” with this still quite Communist country

Lord knows what the Communist Chinese govt will do to those extra babies


18 posted on 12/25/2011 6:41:55 PM PST by RealImmigrant (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: rintense

One less girl to be discriminated and treated wrongly. God bless you, sir/madam.


19 posted on 12/27/2011 5:05:39 AM PST by Phoebe From China (I believe we've arrived at another quintessential "Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock" moment.)
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To: dog breath

Yep, the common Chinese are indeed pissed, but not because this couple disobeyed the law, but because the law/punishment is never equal in front of the rich and the poor.


20 posted on 12/27/2011 5:09:07 AM PST by Phoebe From China (I believe we've arrived at another quintessential "Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock" moment.)
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To: JimRed

Of course not. A fat fine is inevitable though. As long as you can and are willing to pay for the fine, you can ignore the one chind policy all you want in here.


21 posted on 12/27/2011 5:15:26 AM PST by Phoebe From China (I believe we've arrived at another quintessential "Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock" moment.)
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To: Phoebe From China

Thank you. I have a close friend who travels to China quarterly. He’s the President of a local company and gets the royal treatment. He tells me of how the women are treated in the cities, and what their fate usually entails (prostitution). It’s a trap for them as they are shamed to never return home, usually in rural areas.


22 posted on 12/27/2011 6:01:49 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Good for them! My agency says they match children based on personality types, or try to. If true, I am so screwed!!! ;)


23 posted on 12/27/2011 6:03:01 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: rintense

You have to wonder about matching criteria. Everyone, including the FedEx driver who delivered our referral package, says our daughter looks just like me.

That being said, I only know of one match where the baby didn’t seem custom made for her forever family.


24 posted on 12/27/2011 6:15:19 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Phoebe From China

This is the society that the left envisions for America, and indeed, the whole world,

where they, the self appointed ruling class, get to live how they wish and consume as they wish, because they are “enlightened” and “know better”,

whilst the masses are forced to live under oppressive, controlling government laws.


25 posted on 12/27/2011 6:24:51 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: papertyger
This FedEx drivers certainly have become a phenom in adoption! I'll be sure to get a pic of mine when he/she delivers the referral.

Glad to read there is careful consideration in matching. Man, I can't wait!!!! Really have to start socking away money. With a 18 months of no job a year ago, and those crazy household emergencies that pop up, it's been difficult.

26 posted on 12/27/2011 6:32:16 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.)
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To: rintense

Don’t worry too much about “extra” cash. There’s surprisingly little to pay for once you’re there.

We only *had* to spend about three hundred in currency adjustments, and we bought some of the formula she was used to to ease the transition to better food.

Take an empty Visa card, and you should do fine.


27 posted on 12/27/2011 7:08:49 AM PST by papertyger
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To: rintense

Not at all! You’ll bring home a beautiful happy baby. Good luck to you!


28 posted on 12/27/2011 7:42:10 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.
29 posted on 12/27/2011 6:57:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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