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Man Gets Top Secret Fighter Jet’s Canopy For Peanuts—Now Selling It On eBay For $620,000
Gizmodo ^ | 12/25/2011 | Jesus Diaz

Posted on 12/25/2011 9:13:41 AM PST by redreno

Back in the 80s, the United States Navy wanted a stealth aircraft to replace the A-6 Intruder. McDonnell Douglas and General Dynamics came up with an ultra-secret flying wing design, an alien-looking aircraft called the A-12 Avenger II. It never flew.

Fast forward 30 years and go to eBay. Someone named Seth Kettleman is selling its canopy for a whooping $620,238. How did this happen?

Kettleman is probably going to get that amount or more. After all, this is the only part of this secret airplane to reach public hands. Nobody else has anything else about this fabled jet, ultimately killed by major development problems and the arrival of the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. He says it's completely authentic:

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: military; navy; topsecret

1 posted on 12/25/2011 9:13:48 AM PST by redreno
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To: redreno

Man those idiots like slinging the term “Top Secret” around. I doubt they even know the criteria for classification.


2 posted on 12/25/2011 9:17:59 AM PST by pfflier
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To: redreno

Hmmmmm.....Dad wants a canopy for his pickup......$620,000?????????.....looks like Dad gets another tie for Christmas next year.


3 posted on 12/25/2011 9:18:34 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: redreno

The A-12 sounds like the version of the SR-71 that had weapons, a supersonic dogfighter aircraft.


4 posted on 12/25/2011 9:20:38 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Castigo Cay by Matt Bracken, check it out. And his other works.)
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To: redreno
Pics and info
5 posted on 12/25/2011 9:25:44 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Eye of Unk

The SR-71 was a reconnaissance version. The F-12 was the interceptor version. I think the A-11 and A- 12 were the development test models.


6 posted on 12/25/2011 9:25:56 AM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: redreno

7 posted on 12/25/2011 9:26:24 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: redreno
It kind of looks like the stealth Drone that Obama gave to Iran.


8 posted on 12/25/2011 9:28:38 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: redreno
Yesterday top secret meant death to anyone who even uttered conveyance of something deemed secret,

nowadays top secret is an integral part of resale value...

9 posted on 12/25/2011 9:36:23 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: redreno

It would make a good aquarium......


10 posted on 12/25/2011 9:43:48 AM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: EGPWS

Well back then we were FIGHTING Communism, not BECOMING Communist/s;)


11 posted on 12/25/2011 9:46:58 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Eye of Unk

The A-12 under the Oxcart Project at Area-51 was the CIA portion of what became the SR-71. There’s some great photos floating around of one upside down on a pedestal where they were doing radar work. When the Soviet satellites came over they would blow a horn and everyone would run to get everything covered up. It was called “toot and scoot”.


12 posted on 12/25/2011 9:56:51 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: redreno

Bet the Iranian bid will win.


13 posted on 12/25/2011 9:57:31 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: haroldeveryman; Eye of Unk
The Lockheed A-12 Oxcart was a spy plane built for the CIA. The program developed into the SR-71 Blackbird for the USAF.

The McDonnell Douglas A-12 Avenger II was a stealth carrier capable attack aircraft developed for the USN, but canceled before any prototypes were complete.

Is the latter A-12 that this canopy was purportedly built for.

14 posted on 12/25/2011 9:57:40 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: redreno

Where does one search on Ebay for such a thing, and what kind of person searches for that stuff, a “hoarder of weird stuff”?


15 posted on 12/25/2011 10:09:55 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Santa missed my house again....or maybe he's stuck in the chimney. I'll go look.......)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"Where does one search on Ebay for such a thing..."

Here...

16 posted on 12/25/2011 10:24:32 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Hot Tabasco

It’s sitting in a self-storage unit. I could just imagine the gang from Auction Hunters when they saw off that lock and roll up the door.... YYYYUP!!!


17 posted on 12/25/2011 10:27:28 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Eye of Unk

The Navy A12 of the 80’s has nothing to do with the SR71 /CIA’s A12 of the 60’s


19 posted on 12/25/2011 10:41:11 AM PST by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Red Badger
It would make a good aquarium......

From a private airplane hanger being torn down, I "liberated" a brand-new aircraft canopy from an industrial-sized dumpster. An unknown quantity, I think it was designed for an aircraft of just one passenger, and is made of 3/8" thick polycarbonite. It's still in its original sticky-wrapper, about 3'x4'; but sadly, not shaped adequately for aquarium use.

In response to my ad (for less than $600,000), I got a call from an interested party who wished to make a doggy trailer for his motorcycle: this was to become the windshield. LOL!

20 posted on 12/25/2011 10:46:59 AM PST by Does so
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To: redreno

Look at all the rivets and holes around that thing. I wonder about “stealth.” I need to look at photos of a Raptor.


21 posted on 12/25/2011 10:53:46 AM PST by saminfl
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To: redreno

To be clear, he’s “asking” $620k. He’s only “selling” if someone ponies up.


22 posted on 12/25/2011 10:54:12 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: sillipuddi

That’s a good story. I’ve heard it in person from Brian Shul, whose story it is.

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“Walt” is Walt Watson.


23 posted on 12/25/2011 11:01:34 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Red Badger

Or a -really- cool canoe.

:)


24 posted on 12/25/2011 11:05:00 AM PST by Salamander (I'm your pain.....)
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To: sillipuddi

glad I’m on our side...


25 posted on 12/25/2011 11:13:25 AM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Salamander

I need a top for the Factory Five roadster I’m building


27 posted on 12/25/2011 11:32:43 AM PST by TStro
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To: TStro

Well, there ya go, then.

Get bidding!

LOL


28 posted on 12/25/2011 11:38:26 AM PST by Salamander (I'm your pain.....)
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To: sillipuddi
I'd like this story if it were facebook. I loved the USAF!!
29 posted on 12/25/2011 11:58:27 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: EGPWS

I think anyone these days with “Top Secret” clearance is basically low man on the totem poll - a rookie!

There are classifications that don’t even fit into that type of scheme anymore. Or so I’ve been told...


30 posted on 12/25/2011 12:05:03 PM PST by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: djf
There are classifications that don’t even fit into that type of scheme anymore.

How about "information challenging documents"?

32 posted on 12/25/2011 12:14:47 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: sillipuddi
have to chuckle every time read this story
33 posted on 12/25/2011 12:39:47 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Portcall24

I provided weather satellite scout support to those early flights 62-64.


34 posted on 12/25/2011 1:32:13 PM PST by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: saminfl
That's the way a prototype would look. First aircraft of any line makes it's first flights without paint, lest they have to do some major maintenance involving removal of permanent panels.

Expensive machine work would have been done on those rivets if the program went further. My guess is that the rivets that stick out were only temporary just to try and show the assembly as further along than it really was.

35 posted on 12/25/2011 1:54:44 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Nice gift, wasn’t it! All in one piece.


36 posted on 12/25/2011 2:06:18 PM PST by sig229 (The loonie left "FLUNKED" human nature 101)
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To: saminfl

Look at all the rivets and holes around that thing. I wonder about “stealth.” I need to look at photos of a Raptor.
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The last few photo’s look as if the rivets are countersunk and the holes weren’t filled and smoothed yet ... possibly a trim panel was to go over the lip?


37 posted on 12/25/2011 3:43:02 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer

Wasn’t supposed to be made of composites?


38 posted on 12/25/2011 3:56:26 PM PST by saminfl
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To: Hatteras

$620,000 and the guy is going to charge $400 for shipping? Make him pay the insurance.


39 posted on 12/25/2011 5:05:51 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: saminfl
Oops!! Wasn't IT supposed to made of composites?
40 posted on 12/25/2011 5:10:41 PM PST by saminfl
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To: larryjohnson

I was once told about a moment that occured with the first weather satellite. They turned it on and saw a huge system out in the South Atlantic headed toward the Northwest. It was called the “Oh my G..” moment. Have you ever heard that story?


41 posted on 12/25/2011 5:53:11 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: Portcall24
pretty big storm to go from the south atlantic to the north west.

:-)

42 posted on 12/25/2011 5:55:24 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot

A poorly written sentence on my part...I hated to say toward the U.S. because I didn’t know...what I meant was in a Northwesterly direction. :-)


43 posted on 12/25/2011 6:09:14 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: Portcall24
Figured. Just pulling your chain.

Merry Christmas.

44 posted on 12/25/2011 6:15:33 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot
A $620,000.00 canopy sitting on a $1,200 flatbed trailer, parked in U-Lock-it. Sounds fishy to me.
45 posted on 12/25/2011 6:33:38 PM PST by kempo
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To: kempo

It is only worth what someone writes the check for, not the asking price.


46 posted on 12/25/2011 6:36:29 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: aflaak

Ping


47 posted on 12/25/2011 7:28:24 PM PST by r-q-tek86 ("It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" - Dr. Sowell)
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To: saminfl
To saminfl:

I worked on the US Navy A-12 Avenger II Stealth Attack Aircraft project at General Dynamics Aircraft Division, Fort Worth, TX from 9/1989 to 1/1991 as a RAM Engineer (Reliability, Availability, Maintainability) and this aircraft was being designed as an “all composites stealth attack aircraft” for the US Navy. Of course, the US Air Force was also very interested in it, if it made the DoD cut. I was assigned to the fuel systems, hydraulics systems, and munitions systems project groups. This aircraft was an “extremely classified” project at the time and was programmed to out fly any aircraft in the Navy fleet. It was so stealthy that it showed up on radar only as a pin point on a square mile plot, if you can imagine that. Talk about the proverbial needle in a haystack! It was a shame that there was so much financial cost overruns on the project, but in the supply chain (both internal and external) people could only see huge $$$ coming from the DoD; everyone had their hands out wanting more $$$. Another huge issue as with the “partnership” companies communicating or the lack there of. In my mind, if the project had made the DoD cut, it would have created extensive amounts of work/jobs in the aerospace industry (and other associated industries, too) for the USA. Enough said...

48 posted on 02/21/2012 10:29:30 PM PST by flyboyviper
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