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GOP senator (Lugar) says Tea Party challenges 'killed off' efforts at Republican majority
The Hill ^ | 12/25/11 | Meghashyam Mali

Posted on 12/25/2011 9:37:10 AM PST by Qbert

Sen. Dick Lugar (Ind.) facing a primary contest from the right in his reelection bid said past Tea Party-backed challenges had “killed off” Republican efforts to take the Senate in the past and could undermine a GOP majority again in 2012.

“A Republican majority in the Senate is very important, and Republicans who are running for reelection ought to be supported by people who want to see that majority,” Lugar said in an interview which aired Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union.

“I think the majority of Tea Party people understand that too,” he added.

Lugar who is facing a tough primary challenge from Tea Party-backed Indiana State Treasurer Richard Mourdock (R) said he was the best GOP option to win the seat and that past attempts by grassroots groups to install candidates they found more conservative had backfired. "If I was not the nominee it might be lost," he said of his seat. "Republicans lost the seats before in Nevada and New Jersey and Colorado where there were people who were claiming they wanted somebody who was more of their Tea Party aspect but they killed off the Republican majority."

"This is one of the reasons why we have a minority in the Senate right now," he claimed.

Lugar said that conservative Indiana voters looking for a candidate should look at his record. "I would say to them respectfully that it is me."

"I have a very conservative voting record over the course of the time I've served," he said. 

"Certainly unique, I think, in the Senate, of having been a farmer, a small businessman, a Naval officer, a mayor, a school board member. These are grassroots functions that people are dealing with."

Lugar also denied claims Senate Republicans had undercut the House GOP in the payroll tax fight and warned that the protracted fight would make it “very difficult” to find a year-long tax holiday extension.

Lugar defended the Senate compromise negotiated by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) He said McConnell was committed to a year-long extension but that the deadlock necessitated a short term deal.

“I think that Mitch McConnell offered an avenue, an approach that said this is a serious business, we have to talk about a year solution, but this is not likely to be resolved in the next few days,” said Lugar. 

He said senators were forced to act to avoid the wide-ranging repercussions if a deal was not struck saying that wage earners would have seen “the tax holiday go… apart from those who are unemployed on unemployment compensation or the doctors in Medicare.” 

He said the Senate GOP position was “why don’t we, as a matter of fact, talk for a period of time but do so after the 1st of January.”

Lugar sounded a pessimistic note about reaching a deal in the next round of fighting over a yearlong extension.

"I think it will be very difficult. Just as the committee of twelve found it would be very difficult even if the objective was to reduce the deficits, the problems of our balanced payments.”

“We just simply find it’s difficult to do in this context, but not impossible," said Lugar.

Lugar said his provision to fast track an administration decision on the Keystone XL pipeline helped sell the deal to Senate Republicans. “One factor that led the Senate to come to a conclusion was the Keystone pipeline,” he said.

“At least 20,000 new jobs, six and a half billion dollar investments from the Canadians and much more oil independence for the United States. A real winner, but President Obama because of environmentalists surrounding the White House apparently literally said we won't do anything until 2013. We said you need to make a decision within 60 days.”


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: establishment; lugar; mourdock; teaparty
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One of many RINOs who needs to be shown the door.
1 posted on 12/25/2011 9:37:19 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Lugar knows NOTHING. . . . . . NOTHING


2 posted on 12/25/2011 9:40:32 AM PST by DeaconRed (Hound Dog Howling . . . Bull Frog Croaking -- Everything is broken--Thanks to ZERO)
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To: Qbert

Who cares if there is a Grand Old Potty majority if half of them vote with the Dems? Idiot.

We need a Conservative Party.


3 posted on 12/25/2011 9:41:29 AM PST by jessduntno (The Republican elite hates him, Rove hates him, Boehner hates him, liberals hate him. It's Newt!)
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To: Qbert

HE’S 100 years old! Time to ‘spend more time with the other dinasours.’


4 posted on 12/25/2011 9:42:41 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Qbert

With RINOs like Lugar what good would a Republican majority have accomplished?


5 posted on 12/25/2011 9:42:49 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Qbert

Hey Lugar! It is not about Republican control! It is about doing the right thing and stop the excess excess spending and limiting government. Reduce government back to 15% of economy and pay off the debt.

Let the Tea Party with the true conservative Americans show you how to tame the government.


6 posted on 12/25/2011 9:42:49 AM PST by ADSUM (Body of Christ is the Church, gathered around the crucified risen Lord and fed by Him in Communion.)
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To: Qbert

Indeed just another member of the good old boy RINO club.


7 posted on 12/25/2011 9:42:57 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Qbert

another incumbent that went soft on the job


8 posted on 12/25/2011 9:43:04 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Qbert

What I told lugar a few days ago,

FUDL!!!


9 posted on 12/25/2011 9:43:50 AM PST by muddler (Chaos is coming..)
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To: muddler

When is the Indiana primary?


10 posted on 12/25/2011 9:44:40 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Qbert
Power-hungry jerks like Lugar are willing to sacrifice the election to Obama just so they can get their Senate chairmanships back. Given that they just LOVED Castle, they would probably support the re-election of AlGore to the Senate if he had an (R) by his name.

Sickening.

Merry Christmas. We're screwed.

11 posted on 12/25/2011 9:45:19 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Qbert; Voter#537; jessduntno

You...you ungrateful peasants!

How dare you throw your weight around at your betters.

That said, I wonder how many false flag Dem plants have run as Tea Partiers. I know the Dems have been trying this trick but it tends to be laughably obvious when they do.


12 posted on 12/25/2011 9:45:30 AM PST by sinanju
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To: Voter#537

People like Lugar make the adoption of Democratic policies inevitable. They compromise by giving the Dims a third of what they want now, a third, tomorrow , and a third the following day.


13 posted on 12/25/2011 9:45:44 AM PST by RobbyS
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To: Qbert

This old socialist Lugar has done a huge disservice to this country’s future. Lugar has spent Trillions and Trillions of Dollars and racked up huge debts to foreign nations. We can’t pay our bills now. We can’t keep our military strong anymore thanks to Lugar. What a complete liberal failure Lugar has become.


14 posted on 12/25/2011 9:46:10 AM PST by o2bfree
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To: Qbert
Sen. Dick Lugar (Ind.) facing a primary contest from the right in his reelection bid said past Tea Party-backed challenges had “killed off” Republican efforts to take the Senate in the past and could undermine a GOP majority again in 2012.

GOOD!

We need conservatism NOT Republicanism anyway!

15 posted on 12/25/2011 9:48:07 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Qbert

Exactly.


16 posted on 12/25/2011 9:48:11 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Qbert
We gave the republicans a senate majority and they squandered the chance to do anything substantial. They grew fat, arrogant, and complacent and were content to schmooze with the 'rats and divide up the loot. Lugar, you and your cronies had your chance and you blew it. Now step aside.
17 posted on 12/25/2011 9:48:15 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Qbert

It’s getting just about to open warfare on these pukes.

2012....RINO season.

And if they force Romney upon us....How about a TEA Party candidate to challenge him?


18 posted on 12/25/2011 9:48:43 AM PST by Grunthor (Unrepentant breeder.)
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To: circlecity

"With RINOs like Lugar what good would a Republican majority have accomplished?"

Exactly. And even if they had the majority... then they would make excuses about how they can't do anything because they don't have the presidency. And even if they had the majority and the presidency... then they would make excuses that they don't have a supermajority. And even if...

19 posted on 12/25/2011 9:48:48 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert
Lugar is hardly a RINO. In fact, if you go back in time to where his latest memories and policy positions may be found he is quite consistent with Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and other Republican party stalwarts.

His problem here is he did not grow with tenure ~ he just kind of estivated.

The guy isn't even reliably Leftwingtard.

What he should do is take his billions of dollars and retire ~ well, that, and see a head doctor. He's nuts.

20 posted on 12/25/2011 9:51:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: hinckley buzzard
A Senate Majority requires 60 seats.

So, when did you give anybody a Senate Majority? Dates, places ~ names please.

21 posted on 12/25/2011 9:52:55 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: EGPWS

GOP ended the Whig Party 1854-1856, and now the GOP needs replacement. Guess we will always have Democrats.


22 posted on 12/25/2011 9:53:44 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: Qbert

If you’re not “Tea Party”, there is something seriously wrong with your concept of freedom and limited government in the fashion our forefathers believed it should be.


23 posted on 12/25/2011 9:53:44 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ADSUM
You still need the votes ~ not to be the devil's advocate about it all, but if you don't have the votes (3/4 of them to rewrite the Constitution, 2/3 to discipline the body), you likely can't get all the good stuff done.

The politicians don't want a balanced budget amendment to start with ~ and they don't care to punish the wicked either.

24 posted on 12/25/2011 9:54:58 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Qbert

If this fossil gets re-elected he will be 85 at the end of his term - just retire, already. Make room for someone who’s not on the verge of needing a drool cup, RINO.


25 posted on 12/25/2011 9:55:12 AM PST by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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To: Qbert

Nationally if a Tea Party candidate loses and 200 other win, its a failure of the Tea Party. The Tea Party has to EVERY SINGLE TIME or the RINOS claim Tea Party type conservatives are unelectable. HYPOCRITE RINO’s need to keep there little mouths shut.


26 posted on 12/25/2011 9:55:34 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Qbert

TERM LIMITS!!!!!!!!

He is a career politician - being a ‘Republican’ is immaterial to this elite class.

Age 79 - getting perks for 34 years. Long enough!!!


27 posted on 12/25/2011 9:56:05 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: o2bfree
Lugar has spent Trillions and Trillions of [OUR] Dollars and racked up huge debts [WE now owe] to foreign nations.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself o2bfree...

28 posted on 12/25/2011 9:56:24 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Qbert

Lugar is a Democrat.


29 posted on 12/25/2011 9:57:17 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Qbert

Exactly. The problem is that most of the sitting Repubs are perfectly happy sitting as a minority in Congress. It’s the perfect excuse to get paid an executive salary to do nothing. Can’t draft any legislation, the Demos will shoot it down anyway. Can’t make any positive change, don’t have the votes, sorry ‘bout that.

When I say, “Do nothing,” the term is relative. Being a lame-duck Republican means there’s nothing to do for their job, so they can do their contracting scams, influence peddling, insider trading (in spite of some a-hole exposing that it’s legal for Congressmen), and other extracurricular activities.

Why do you think they’re so scared of Sarah Palin? They don’t want somebody like her taking them to task, exposing their scams, and telling them to shut down their shenanigans like she did to them in Alaska. Status quo is how they want to live, piss on making America better. It’s about looting it for all you can, retiring to the Montana ranch or Caribbean, and dying rich in 15 years.


30 posted on 12/25/2011 9:58:33 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

"Power-hungry jerks like Lugar are willing to sacrifice the election to Obama just so they can get their Senate chairmanships back."

I'm almost certain that this flame-out this past week in Congress and McConnell's betrayal of the House GOP had nothing to do with the merits, and everything to do with attempting to protect a tiny handful of lost-cause RINOs. You're absolutely right- these are power-hungry, back-slapping chums who would rather see Obama win than give up their precious seats.

31 posted on 12/25/2011 10:00:26 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: circlecity

Your question is exactly on point. The only thing a Republican majority would have accomplished is to allow the RINO Republicans to enjoy the perks of the majority.


32 posted on 12/25/2011 10:00:36 AM PST by rcofdayton
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To: SMGFan
Guess we will always have Democrats.

That's what imperial Japan thought about their emperors reign too.

33 posted on 12/25/2011 10:01:00 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Voter#537

Lugar, McConnell, McCain, Graham and Boehner can suck it.


34 posted on 12/25/2011 10:02:56 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Qbert

Luger’s challenges killed off efforts at a conservative majority.


35 posted on 12/25/2011 10:03:02 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Perry (or Gingrich maybe))
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To: bmwcyle
Lugar is a Democrat.

Lugar doesn't even know what the hell he is these days any more than Helen Keller knew what her surroundings were.

36 posted on 12/25/2011 10:04:19 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: dainbramaged

"If this fossil gets re-elected he will be 85 at the end of his term - just retire, already."

Exactly.

37 posted on 12/25/2011 10:05:15 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert
Looks like Mitch McConnell's war on the Tea Party has its talking points together for its Vichy Republican contingent.


38 posted on 12/25/2011 10:07:18 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Qbert
Obama’s Favorite Republican

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In 2012, Indiana will be asked to choose between a hard-line conservative or “Obama’s Favorite Republican,” Senator Dick Lugar. Lugar has a long history of leaning toward liberalism. Here’s the brutal list of 10 of Lugar’s worst offenses from Hoosiers for Conservative Senate. 1. Voted “YES” for the Wall Street Bailout (TARP) and putting taxpayers on the hook. Senator Dick Lugar Supported the Wall Street Bailout. (Oct. 1, 2008, HR1424)

2. Voted “YES” to confirm Elena Kagan for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court.. Senator Dick Lugar was the second Republican to declare his support for this known liberal nominee of President Barack Obama. Lugar knew Elena Kagan was the lead defender of Bill Clinton’s shameless veto of the Partial-Birth-Abortion Ban. Aug. 5, 2010. (Roll Call 229)

3. Voted “YES” for amnesty for illegal aliens. Senator Dick Lugar not only has repeatedly voted for amnesty, but also was a prime co-sponsor of President Barack Obama’s notorious DREAM Act and voted for this bill. Fortunately, conservatives voted against it, and it failed. Dec 18, 2010 (HR5281, Roll Call 625)

4. Voted “YES” to continue taxpayer funding of abortion. Senator Dick Lugar, who claims to be pro-life, voted against Senator David Vitter’s amendment to prohibit funds from being granted to organizations that perform abortions when a woman’s life is not in danger, unless the organization is a hospital. Oct. 18, 2007. (S.Amdt 3330 Roll Call 379) Lugar also voted to support stem cell research, which destroys human life. July 18, 2006 (HR810, Roll Call 206)

5. Voted “NO” to restoring the 2nd Amendment rights to citizens of the District of Columbia. Senator Dick Lugar voted against this basic right to self-defense on February 26, 2009. (S.160, Roll Call 72)

6. Voted “YES” to confirm Sonia Sotomayor for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. Senator Dick Lugar gave the White House a “resounding victory” by voting for this liberal nominee of President Barack Obama. More than 70% of GOP Senators voted against her confirmation and the NRA publicly opposed her confirmation. Aug 6, 2009

7. Voted “YES” for the Auto Industry Bailout. Senator Dick Lugar gave the Big Labor Union Bosses a big gift by forcing taxpayers to take over GM and Chrysler. In the process, Indiana retirees lost tens of millions in retirement fund savings, thanks to the legally unprecedented, Obama-Orchestrated bankruptcy plan for Chrysler. Dec. 11, 2008. (HR 7005, Roll Call 215)

8. Voted “YES” to allow Social Security Benefits for illegal aliens. Senator Dick Lugar cast the deciding vote against reducing document fraud, preventing identity theft, preserving the integrity of the Social Security system, and granting Social Security benefits to illegal aliens who engaged in unlawful activity. Feb. 18, 2006. (S.2611, Roll Call 130)

9. Voted “YES” to raise his own salary. Senator Dick Lugar voted numerous times to raise his own salary during his nearly four decades in federal office

10. Voted “YES” to confirm activist Federal Judge David Hamilton to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. Senator Dick Lugar supported Hamilton despite his work with the ACLU and ACORN and his openly pro-abortion views. Hamilton also handed down the decision to stop Christian prayer on the floor of the legislature in the Indiana Statehouse. Nov. 19,2009

39 posted on 12/25/2011 10:07:42 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: dainbramaged
Don't airline pilots have a mandatory retirement age?

We could use one for senile old farts that can't remember where they lay their dentures, nevermind reading and voting on legistation several thousand pages thick

Which brings up another pet peeve. All those hangers on need to be fired. legislators need to write and read their proposals.

40 posted on 12/25/2011 10:09:17 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Qbert

Our war on rinos has only just begun....


41 posted on 12/25/2011 10:09:32 AM PST by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Qbert

Just as Tea Party challenges are going to kill Lugar’s tenure in the Senate.


42 posted on 12/25/2011 10:10:00 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: muawiyah

Lessee, he’s been in power since Carter.


43 posted on 12/25/2011 10:10:35 AM PST by BenKenobi (You know, you really need to break free of that Catholic mindset.- metmom)
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To: Qbert; jessduntno

He may be right, but who cares? The bottom line is we want to move the nation closer to the Constitution. We had some victories and some losses. The object is not to win for Republicans, but to win for liberty.

My opinion is that removing Hussein in 2012 ought to be the goal all of us work together on. Some here on FR disagree.

I was glad O’Donnell booted Castle. Angle and our Alaska candidate would have won if the party had gotten behind them.

Lugar should be replaced with a conservative.


44 posted on 12/25/2011 10:10:54 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

All good reasons for tar and feathers.


45 posted on 12/25/2011 10:12:13 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: jimbo123

Vichy Republicans. Well spoken.

What was that joke, America gave France someone who didn’t call her ‘fraulein’.


46 posted on 12/25/2011 10:17:30 AM PST by BenKenobi (You know, you really need to break free of that Catholic mindset.- metmom)
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To: Qbert

Lugar is going to be primaried next time, and he knows it.


47 posted on 12/25/2011 10:18:24 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: Qbert

Luger looks like a 100 year old “Howdy F-ing Doody”


48 posted on 12/25/2011 10:19:01 AM PST by Artcore
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Lugar is going to be primaried next time, and he knows it.

Which is why Mitch McConnell and his Vichy Republican war on the Tea Party will get more desperate and ugly in the coming months.
49 posted on 12/25/2011 10:21:54 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Qbert

They seem to think that their job is to “not lose” while the other side has real fighters who believe in their issues passionately and think that their job is to either “win” or to die trying. They fight and make the case, these guys don’t even bother to make the easiest of cases, such as pointing out that they wanted all that good stuff the Dems were talking about but for a longer time. I don’t mind losing if they would at least make the case. They don’t even do that and it is discouraging.


50 posted on 12/25/2011 10:23:02 AM PST by Anima Mundi (NO SPECIAL PRIVILEGE)
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