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RCP: Iowa Republican Presidential Caucus Poll - December 26, 2011
Real Clear Politics ^ | December 26, 2011

Posted on 12/26/2011 6:05:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 12/26/2011 6:06:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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2 posted on 12/26/2011 6:06:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m really hoping Ron Paul wins. Make a mockery out of the whole thing. The GOP is simply not running a serious race this year (they rarely do).


3 posted on 12/26/2011 6:09:59 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war. It's coming.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I sincerely hope Ron Paul sinks before he sinks the country.


4 posted on 12/26/2011 6:14:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ClearCase_guy

A Paultard win in Iowa, or any other state, means Obumble wins in Nov.

If that retard wins anything he WILL run 3rd party!


5 posted on 12/26/2011 6:16:21 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: ClearCase_guy
“I’m really hoping Ron Paul wins. “

Oh that would be fantastic wouldn't it. People really don't get what a threat this current administration is. There may be nothing left to salvage after 4 more years of the current wrecking crew.

6 posted on 12/26/2011 6:16:21 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Please ping us, when the iPad and iPhone manufacturing is moved to Texas, from the Peoples Republic of China.

:D


7 posted on 12/26/2011 6:19:43 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Beagle8U

Sarah Palin must really enjoy seeing the word ‘retard’ whenever she stops by this site...we can disagree with Paul’s foreign policy, but ‘retard’ is hardly appropriate.


8 posted on 12/26/2011 6:20:00 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Hear, hear!

PS Governor Palin, while you’re reading that post sticking up for you, how about, you reconsider that decision you made?

For real.


9 posted on 12/26/2011 6:23:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Looks like Ron Paul peaked too soon.


10 posted on 12/26/2011 6:28:48 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Also I would add; I think Paul is going to do better than people think; sigh....

He is taking the people that Palin could have energized into a strong Reagan type coalition.
Many of these Paul supporters see Paul as the nuclear bomb to throw in the middle of things to try to radically remake the system.
They are willing to overlook his fatal foreign policy flaws.

11 posted on 12/26/2011 6:29:56 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Sarah had her chance for over a year to “run”. She strung people along with hopes she would run(including me); waited on bated breath for that annnouncement...month after month...until she finaly said “I am not running”.


12 posted on 12/26/2011 6:32:03 AM PST by Engedi (Hec)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The GOP is simply not running a serious race this year (they rarely do).

I'm coming to that line of thinking, too. The GOP "candidates" are more interested in burning off each other's flesh than attacking Obama.

And the sad part is... even though the chances of defeating Obama are slim, at least they exist. The only one-upping these people should be doing is outlining how much they can overturn the damage caused by this dark era that's been foisted upon us.

If the GOP were in fact serious, there's no way Ron Paul would be garnering double digits anywhere.

13 posted on 12/26/2011 6:35:33 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: ScottinVA

“I’m coming to that line of thinking, too. The GOP “candidates” are more interested in burning off each other’s flesh than attacking Obama.”

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Seems to this poster, a lot of that is originating from Mitt Alinsky. From behind a carefully maintained firewall of plausible deniability. Remember all the “concern trolls”?

Same as last go around - the good people were all knocked out, leaving McCain of all people.

Which was how we ended up with McCain.


14 posted on 12/26/2011 6:40:50 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
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To: Engedi
Regrettably I agree. Had she gone a more traditional route of building some official ground game and establishing a presence---rather than relying on "election by acclamation" (something that didn't even work for Douglas MacArthur!) she would now be in position to be the anti-Romney.

I counted on the GOP main candidates to see that their best chance to win the nomination was to surpass the other in criticism of OBAMA, but instead, like fools, they took the media bait and attacked each other. Rather than elevating themselves, they only eroded the support for other viable candidates.

I do think it is possible, but not likely, that if Paul wins IA, Palin could say, "This just isn't acceptable" and jump in. This would temporarily coalesce the conservatives around her (the way others have temporarily had the base coalesce around them) until each of the other candidates began the circular firing squad and eroded her numbers. But it would be interesting.

15 posted on 12/26/2011 6:43:29 AM PST by LS
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; jonrick46; deepbluesea; TexMom7; potlatch; SunkenCiv; wolfcreek; BuckeyeTexan; ...
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16 posted on 12/26/2011 6:45:42 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well that’s just great. Let’s just keep fighting amongst outselfs so Romney or Paul can win.


17 posted on 12/26/2011 6:47:05 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: LS
I counted on the GOP main candidates to see that their best chance to win the nomination was to surpass the other in criticism of OBAMA, but instead, like fools, they took the media bait and attacked each other.

Amen. When our own candidates are cowed by political correctness and the RNC; you KNOW we are in real trouble.

18 posted on 12/26/2011 6:48:13 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ScottinVA
The GOP "candidates" are more interested in burning off each other's flesh than attacking Obama.

Except for Gingrich - but we see how well that's working out for him.

19 posted on 12/26/2011 6:48:35 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What if Paul’s people check Romney’s signatures in Virginia and he is found to not meet required number of signatures. Then Paul would really show the GOP establishment for what it is. Crony capitalism on display.


20 posted on 12/26/2011 6:56:37 AM PST by littlesorrel
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for posting. The numbers are steadily trending in the right direction


21 posted on 12/26/2011 6:57:10 AM PST by McLynnan
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To: who knows what evil?
Well, I think it fits Paul to a tee. Your mileage may vary.
22 posted on 12/26/2011 7:00:09 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

I believe he is vile enough to run third party, but so far, the only people I know who are in favor of him are democrats. And very young, and they voted bimbo last time. I would be curious how many former bimbo voters are jumping up and down for Paul.


23 posted on 12/26/2011 7:03:26 AM PST by I_be_tc
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To: ClearCase_guy

Have fun venting, but this is our country we’re talking about.


24 posted on 12/26/2011 7:08:43 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: ClearCase_guy; All
The GOP is simply not running a serious race this year (they rarely do).

Amen. See tagline.

Newt's tried to focus on Obama but it's not working out well now, he seemed to be "flavor of the week" in the early states. At this point I hope Ron Paul takes Iowa. Romney will surely take NH.

I don't know if attack ads or Newt 'overreaching' rhetoric on judges has caused him the drop in support. I notice Meet the Press took time out to mock and attack him on judges, one saying he'd created a "constitutional crisis" immediately upon entering office.

"Constitutional Crisis" ... meant to terrorize would be voters into thinking Newt is radical and extreme. After all he created one by impeaching Bill Clinton, why not another? /s

25 posted on 12/26/2011 7:12:00 AM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry moving in the right direction, Paul a non-factor no matter how many fanatics vote for him, Gingrich moving on down, Romney -steady but not the man...

Maybe Fox News will stop saying ‘everybody else is in single digits.’

Fox News - the place where nobody knows your name (if it’s Perry)


26 posted on 12/26/2011 7:15:11 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: newzjunkey

Newt didn’t help himself by comparing his being struck off the ballot in Virginia to Pearl Harbor.

Mouth to Newt: ‘think before opening.’


27 posted on 12/26/2011 7:17:01 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: I_be_tc
There are more than a few on FR that support the turd. He would pull enough Republican/Ind voters to swing the election. The RATS will still vote RAT in the end.
28 posted on 12/26/2011 7:17:30 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

If you mean Romney, I don’t think there are that many here. I would only support him if he’s the nominee, and that would be a reluctant but necessary vote.


29 posted on 12/26/2011 7:32:05 AM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
No, I was talking about Paul going third party.

I support Perry, would vote Newt in the General election, but never Romney or Paul.

Romney anywhere on a POTUS ticket and I leave that slot blank.

30 posted on 12/26/2011 7:37:44 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: altura
....Fox News - the place where nobody knows your name (if it’s Perry)

And shilling for Romney -- the GOP establishment choice -- all those Fox News contributors and anchors are on board with Romney.

31 posted on 12/26/2011 7:49:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: altura

No kidding and they talk about Perry’s faux pas. Newt is far worse.


32 posted on 12/26/2011 7:50:51 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: newzjunkey
Newt 'overreaching' rhetoric on judges has caused him the drop in support.

I can guarantee you that his stand on judges only helps him in Iowa. We recently threw three judges out on their asses for legislating from the bench.

When Newt started talking about getting judges under control during the Sioux City debate the applause was deafening.

33 posted on 12/26/2011 7:55:07 AM PST by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2011/12/16/apple-ipad-3-release-why-a6-will-be-made-in-texas/

I’ll let you know when things improve even more.


34 posted on 12/26/2011 7:58:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Also I would add; I think Paul is going to do better than people think; sigh.... He is taking the people that Palin could have energized into a strong Reagan type coalition. Many of these Paul supporters see Paul as the nuclear bomb to throw in the middle of things to try to radically remake the system. They are willing to overlook his fatal foreign policy flaws.

Horse feathers!

I believe a lot of Ron Paul’s support is cynical (follow the money). Young people "looking forward" to no jobs in the Obama depression, or working on degrees in areas where government money could fund a study, a program (their professors have sucked on this tit for decades) -- instead of being “wasted” to support the "evil" military and “misguided” war on drugs -- which also ties into what they've been taught in many institutions of higher education -- so many useless degrees and “green” thinkers believing that Ron Paul is the Rx for what ails the country. So they're leaving support for Barack “hope and change” Obama at the school house/no job market door and flocking to Ron Paul which has the sweetener of hurting those “evil-rich” conservatives who are destroying the planet and are ready to “bomb” the world.

The problem for them is -- they never will get the money; it always finds another home. With the debt and deficit ballooned out of sight, that money isn't heading in their direction. The naturally productive ones will eventually “grow up” and realize the truth about living in a safe, free market society but many will hang fast to the hope (libertarians for sure) that once the "war on drugs" and the "evil military complex” have their wings clipped, some of those trillions of “wasted” dollars will certainly flow to them. It won't and their lot will be worse. We have for too long been building “me-me-itis” generations, whose values and goals are nurtured and fanned by teachings of socialist professors spawned in the Sixties who have multiplied themselves with our youth.

So Ron Paul is their cup of tea. They’re only one step away from OWS (most likely have a foot in both camps already). If Ron Paul definitively said, "I will not run third Party," much of his support would evaporate today. Which is precisely why he has not ruled it out.

35 posted on 12/26/2011 8:01:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Beagle8U

Paul will likely win Iowa and it won’t make an ounce of difference in the final vote.
Iowa does not reflect any aspect of the national consensus because of the enormous sums spent by so many campaigns on so few people.


36 posted on 12/26/2011 8:09:13 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Gimme that old time fossil fuel.)
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To: ScottinVA; All

Call me crazy, but in every political season I feel as though we are the subject of a psy-ops effort to divide us by making us argue about meaningless things like how many marriages the candidates have, while our standing in the world, the strength of our defense, the erosion of our civil liberties, and the centralization of world financial and governing bodies proceeds apace and without evaluation, monitoring, and objection by the people that will be forced to live under the new regime. The elected officials are all bought and paid for, or threatened into submission in the rare case that they may object.

When all the choices in politics differ only in the meaningless issues, then there is no more choice, there is no more democracy, and no more freedom.

The usurpation is complete as we speak, but we are being led to believe we still matter.

I am sad for my children.


37 posted on 12/26/2011 8:10:10 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: newzjunkey
Newt's tried to focus on Obama but it's not working out well now.....

SO DID PERRY until they all turned their guns on him.

President ZERO ---- 2,134,396 views

38 posted on 12/26/2011 8:14:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
My point wasn't that it will effect the GOP nomination.

What it will do is boost that turd's ego enough that he will run third party. THAT will give Obumble the win.

39 posted on 12/26/2011 8:16:02 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

That’s true. All this proves is, Iowa is populated by a bunch of Lemmings who vote for who ever presents the best rhetoric and propaganda.

If Paul wins, Iowa will become the proverbial “Nut Case” laughing stock of the rest of America. It shows that they watch their local TV sets around the clock and vote the way they are told without actually looking into the real facts.


40 posted on 12/26/2011 8:17:28 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well I think your analysis is wrong. He has all kinds of people supporting him unfortunately. The segment I am talking about; would be on our side if we had a Palin/Reagan conservative.
But we don't; and they are throwing in the towel. These are people that won't take any time to work in the system to help fix things; they are lazy in a way.
They are willing however to stand back and lob the Ron Paul Molotov cocktail in the middle of the process.
They see no benefit to any of the current candidates.

Again this is my opinion; based on observing a few folks I have heard speak.

41 posted on 12/26/2011 8:19:28 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well I think your analysis is wrong. He has all kinds of people supporting him unfortunately. The segment I am talking about; would be on our side if we had a Palin/Reagan conservative.
But we don't; and they are throwing in the towel. These are people that won't take any time to work in the system to help fix things; they are lazy in a way.
They are willing however to stand back and lob the Ron Paul Molotov cocktail in the middle of the process.
They see no benefit to any of the current candidates.

Again this is my opinion; based on observing a few folks I have heard speak.

42 posted on 12/26/2011 8:19:29 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Beagle8U

You might be on to something.


43 posted on 12/26/2011 8:21:59 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Gimme that old time fossil fuel.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

My opinion is also based on observations and knowledge.

I believe you are incorrect in your analysis.


44 posted on 12/26/2011 8:22:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What is also true about that “voting block”, these young and restless people you outlined, never put their money, OR their time where their mouth is. They talk a good and noble fight, but never deliver.

Any poll that includes this group as a major factor, never proves accurate on election day. Perhaps for the reasons I mentioned above.

I still think that Ron Paul will lose Iowa to Newt when it comes down to it. There are way too many “undecided” voters out there who do have a brain, and when they even think of the possibility that the most dangerous candidate in our history threatens to win, they will come out in droves for Newt, in the name of logical restraint.


45 posted on 12/26/2011 8:26:21 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well we may be both right in our analysis; or wrong. I just know that i have been trying to figure this Paul thing out; and I have been keenly listening to when they speak to what is driving them.
46 posted on 12/26/2011 8:28:13 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: HereInTheHeartland; Cincinatus' Wife

My take on Iowa Paultards: They’re wanting to flip a political bird to the Iowa so-cons that make up a large part of the Iowa Republican establishment... the so-cons have their issues, and once their litmus tests are met, their minds glaze over... How do you think Huckster won the think last time???


47 posted on 12/26/2011 8:32:52 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (No Mit Sherlock. No Mit, not now, not ever. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: I_be_tc

On the Fox News Sunday panel they were asked their predictions for next year. 3 out of 3 who answered the question about specific candidates predicted Romney would win the nomination. 2 out of the 3 said Obama would win the general election. It just lends credence to the idea that people don’t really believe Romney is the “one candidate who can beat Obama” no matter what they say.

I believe they’re right about some things. Their rationale was mainly that the economy will keep improving, thus voters will warm up to Obama. Considering we’re in the doldrums now and half the voters still want him reelected, I find that hard to argue with. Any uptick could put Barry over the top. Not to mention many people think the Supreme Court will overturn Obamacare. That alone could get the economy and jobs roaring again and totally shift the issues this campaign is going to have to be run on.

That’s why I think Mitt is a terrible candidate. Despite his lack of charisma, we’re being told he’s the guy to make the case on the economy, because he turned things around as a businessman. I don’t think we can trust the economy will be the main issue in November and I don’t think we can trust we’ll have any obvious issue at all. That’s why I think we need a “bomb-thrower” like Newt. With a traditional campaign, we will probably lose. Newt is the one guy who can flip the conversation around on a dime to any issue he wants, social, economic, national security, constitutional. It may come down to making the philosophical case for conservatism vs. socialism and I believe only Newt has the clarity and command to pull that off.


48 posted on 12/26/2011 8:48:14 AM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Obama in 2012!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
....and I have been keenly listening to when they speak to what is driving them.

Then they must be ignorant of what Ron Paul believes and has said.

49 posted on 12/26/2011 8:49:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Keith in Iowa

If they were thinking voters they could see that Rick Perry has the consistent SOCIAL and FISCAL bonafides.

If voting is now a tit for tat, we’re sunk.


50 posted on 12/26/2011 8:51:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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