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Student, 23, shot dead at point blank rage in 'totally random attack' outside McDonalds (UK)
Mail Online ^ | Dec 26, 2011 | Rob Cooper

Posted on 12/26/2011 7:43:58 AM PST by expat1000

A student was shot was shot dead today at point blank range in a random attack outside a McDonalds, police said.

Armed response units were scrambled to the scene in Salford, Greater Manchester, in the early hours of the morning after the 23-year-old was attacked.

The Indian victim, who was studying at Lancaster University, was taken to hospital but was later pronounced dead. Murder probe: Police cordon off the scene following the random shooting in the early hours of the morning

Murder probe: Police cordon off the scene following the random shooting in the early hours of the morning

He was part of a group of nine male and female students, all Indian, who were staying in a nearby hotel for a break in Manchester over the Christmas holidays.

He was out with two friends and heading towards the city centre when the gunman approached and engaged the victim in a 'very short' conversation at around 1.30am this morning.

A moment later the killer pulled out the handgun and shot the student in the side of the head, police said. He collapsed to the ground as his killer ran off.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: crime; uk
When guns are outlawed...
1 posted on 12/26/2011 7:44:00 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Comments section is the usual handwringing but limp wrists. They actually described the shooter as “white”, I guess the forgot to add the adjective “trash.”


2 posted on 12/26/2011 7:48:13 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: expat1000

The local constabulary has demanded that the gunman immediately surrender himself to authorities.


3 posted on 12/26/2011 7:48:33 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: expat1000
A student was shot was shot dead today at point blank range in a random attack outside a McDonalds, police said.

It wasn't a Big Mac eaten into the shape of a hand gun that was used in this deadly crime was it?

4 posted on 12/26/2011 7:48:53 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: expat1000

Can’t be true, there are no guns in the UK.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 7:49:13 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: expat1000

post a picture of the suspect. We’ll find out how “random” it was.


6 posted on 12/26/2011 7:49:27 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Ignorance is no excuse.)
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To: expat1000
"When guns are outlawed..."

I was gonna say -- how is that even possible? Aren't guns illegal in the UK?

7 posted on 12/26/2011 7:49:48 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: junta

Interesting, that they described the ethnicity and race of the victim and perp. Not sure if this is general policy of this paper or because the perp fit the “liberal” narrative about white racism.

With “reporting” from the Corrupt Liberal Media in the USA, the race/ethnicity of both perp/victim are rarely given, and many times when the perp is black and even when he is still at large, his race, a major identifying factor is censored from the reader in the name of “political correctness”.


8 posted on 12/26/2011 8:04:52 AM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: expat1000

Shot at point- blank range does not suggest a random attack. Seems like there was a history here between shooter and victim.


9 posted on 12/26/2011 8:06:14 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: expat1000

How do the police know it was random? Because the victim’s 1:00 a.m. friends said so, instead of, “He owed the guy a lot of money for drugs, and they’d decided to make an example of him.”?


10 posted on 12/26/2011 8:08:46 AM PST by Tax-chick (Two women in one house ... and one of 'em a redhead!)
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To: expat1000

I was interested in the comments about how the criminals are the only ones with guns. The one British poster that commented that it was like the United States was interesting also, for the reason that I can’t remember when the rather large Indian community in my metro area ever got one of their number killed. Perhaps the knowledge that people can shoot you in the United States makes a difference, the cards are always on the table over here. It is hard to predict random violence anywhere in the world but if you know the worst might happen you might respond differently. I often can’t explain my thoughts properly so I am not sure if those last two sentences make any sense. There might be more to the story that the police have not revealed.


11 posted on 12/26/2011 8:18:47 AM PST by dog breath
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To: expat1000

Described as Indian????

I guess “Indian” has replaced “Asian” as code for “Pakistani”?


12 posted on 12/26/2011 8:19:40 AM PST by null and void (Day 1069 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: expat1000
It's about damn time they shut these dangerous McDonald's down...seems like random violence is out of control at this fast-food giant

Shut them down now before more people are killed or hurt

/ S

13 posted on 12/26/2011 8:21:24 AM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: dog breath
Or as Robert Heinlein observed:

An armed society is a polite society...

14 posted on 12/26/2011 8:21:35 AM PST by null and void (Day 1069 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: expat1000

Lies!~ we all know that guns are forbidden in England!!


15 posted on 12/26/2011 8:24:06 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: expat1000
"When guns are outlawed..."


16 posted on 12/26/2011 8:30:23 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: expat1000

Wait this cant happen there are no guns allowed in the UK. THis story must be false...


17 posted on 12/26/2011 8:31:39 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Random unprovoked attacks are common in the UK. A man that lived on my street died last Thursday, 2 weeks after being beat down in the street by some thugs, at random for no reason. Also in the last year 2 of my work mates have been cut up by thugs with knives, again.. At random, for no reason


18 posted on 12/26/2011 8:36:20 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: muir_redwoods
Seems like there was a history here between shooter and victim.

The victim didn't even live there. They were visiting for the holidays...................

19 posted on 12/26/2011 8:43:30 AM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: junta

or in other words, a “yob”


20 posted on 12/26/2011 8:45:01 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: null and void
I guess “Indian” has replaced “Asian” as code for “Pakistani”?

I'll guess it more likely that "Indian"="Hindu from India" and Muslim from either India or Pakistan = "Asian". I'm going to guess it likely that it was Muslim-on-Hindu violence.

21 posted on 12/26/2011 8:48:32 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: expat1000

Impossible, there are No Guns in the UK, so this couldn’t possibly have happened. (sarcasm)


22 posted on 12/26/2011 9:39:46 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: yank in the UK

The Alexs of the world,being a thug for just the sake of being a thug.


23 posted on 12/26/2011 9:48:09 AM PST by eastforker (I'll pick Rick but I still root for Newt.)
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To: yank in the UK

You: “A man that lived on my street died last Thursday, 2 weeks after being beat down in the street by some thugs, at random for no reason.”

Me: So sorry about your neighbor. It sounds like something, I was reading the other day. Supposedly, there is a new “game” the gangs are playing called “knockout”. It involves choosing a gang “game” leader from the members and then choosing a random victim, who will be charged at by the leader and his followers and then hit on the head until the victim is knocked out. And if the victim doesn’t become immediately unconscious, they savagely beat, punch and kick the victim until the victim loses consciousness. The only intention seems to be to see how quickly they can knock someone out. Such a sickness...or should call it what it really and truthfully is? Evil. And thus we are back to liberalism which does not acknowledge that evil exists thus cruelty is a symptom of social illness not an actual state of immorality. Bah Humbug to that way of thinking...


24 posted on 12/26/2011 9:58:06 AM PST by This I Wonder32460
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To: This I Wonder32460
Where's Charles Bronson when we need him?


25 posted on 12/26/2011 9:59:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Sooth2222

“Stay still.”


26 posted on 12/26/2011 10:02:09 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: expat1000

How’s that gun ban working out for ya?


27 posted on 12/26/2011 10:07:26 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: yank in the UK

Have you considered coming home?


28 posted on 12/26/2011 10:08:58 AM PST by null and void (Day 1069 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: junta

It is because the perp was identified as ‘white’ that this is a crime. Had this been an ‘asian’, ‘swarthy youth’, or ‘immigrant’, it would be a misdemeanor.


29 posted on 12/26/2011 10:11:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: null and void

Me, yes. The wife and kids no


30 posted on 12/26/2011 10:28:30 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: dfwgator
Where's Charles Bronson when we need him?

It happened in the UK.

Harry Brown is the man you're looking for:


31 posted on 12/26/2011 11:32:32 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: yank in the UK
Ah. Well. Um. They could immigrate?
32 posted on 12/26/2011 2:59:13 PM PST by null and void (Day 1069 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void
If they specified Indian, they mean that he came from India, which probably means he is Hindu. I believe he is a foreign exchange student.

When Britons talk of "Asians", they mean people from the Indian subcontinent. There are about equal numbers of ex-Pakistanis and ex-Indians in the UK, so they use Asian to mean either of them.

33 posted on 12/29/2011 7:56:28 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: PapaBear3625
I'm going to guess it likely that it was Muslim-on-Hindu violence.

That would be my guess, else they're letting a yob know he didn't get a Paki.

34 posted on 12/29/2011 8:01:43 AM PST by null and void (Day 1073 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: This I Wonder32460; All

Yes, congratulations - you are now the fifth person in less than twenty posts to come out with this meme. Repetition stops it from being funny, clever or even sarcastic. It makes you all seem like Pavlov’s dogs, same stimulus, same response. I mean, come on guys - a living breathing Human being actually DIED here. If you don’t have something original to post it’s really hardly worthwhile doing.


35 posted on 12/29/2011 8:02:42 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Yes, “Asian” means Desi...


36 posted on 12/29/2011 8:03:20 AM PST by null and void (Day 1073 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: This I Wonder32460; yank in the UK

I agree - there is an increasing amount of what seems to be random violence in the UK. I think its a very bad sign. There are a large number of people in a kind of underclass who just have no respect, no hope, no work ethic, no future and no loyalty to the culture whatsoever. Its bad enough when criminals beat people up to get their money, or because they are the wrong race, but you can kind of understand that (if not approve of it) But there are people now whose main motivation to violence is simple boredom. That really is the sign of a sick society.


37 posted on 12/29/2011 8:07:49 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: null and void; yank in the UK

Yeah, you could move to Detroit or Washington, or Dearborn, or downtown Los Angeles. Far safer places, especially since you could pack some heat.


38 posted on 12/29/2011 8:20:51 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

I lived in New Orleans, 3rd ward, in 1993, 94. N O was the murder capital of the world then. Sunderland England makes New Orleans look like Mr Rodgers neighbourhood, and the thugs aren’t packing here.


39 posted on 12/29/2011 8:30:39 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: yank in the UK

Why are you there, again?


40 posted on 12/29/2011 9:28:20 AM PST by null and void (Day 1073 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

My wife is English, and so are my kids. That’s why I live here. I can’t convince them to move to the USA, so I’m outvoted 3 to 1


41 posted on 12/29/2011 9:37:01 AM PST by yank in the UK (decapitation before capitulation)
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To: yank in the UK

I have to admit, i’ve only been to Sunderland twice, once for the football (at the Stadium of Sh*te!) and once to visit a mate at uni.

My overall impression are that’s it’s pretty bloody grim. Newcastle seems much nicer


42 posted on 12/29/2011 10:24:23 AM PST by Mitch86
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To: yank in the UK

Time to ditch the democracy and reincorporate as a benevolent dictatorship, I’d say...


43 posted on 12/29/2011 12:33:37 PM PST by null and void (Day 1073 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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