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A World Without Teachers
The American Thinker ^ | 12/26/2011 | Richard Miniter

Posted on 12/26/2011 8:23:52 AM PST by Discoshaman

The Kindle and Nook may make for not only the most important advance in reading since Gutenberg, but also, quite likely, a major lesson in unintended consequences. Especially for the educational establishment, because for the first time in history, Americans should be able to envision a future without public-school teachers -- indeed, a future without public-school administrators or state departments of education with their rigidly enforced, politically correct social-transformation curriculum. A future without onerous school taxes, "education president(s)," self-preening school boards, or million-dollar classrooms. But most happily, a future without a single supercilious finger wagging in our face as we're forever lectured about how much a securely tenured, part-time, self-important, overpaid class of public employees "cares" about our sons and daughters. Really, really, really cares. And, of course, knows much better than we do how to bring them up.

And it's all possible because these cheap, handheld, downloadable reading devices such as Kindle and Nook now give parents a choice between tutoring and classroom education.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/12/a_world_without_schoolteachers.html#ixzz1heq4w6Z2

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ebooks; education; frhf; homeschooling; indoctrination; learning; publicschools; schools; teachers; teaching; unions
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As a homeschooling parent and the author of an ebook, Knox's Irregulars, this article resonated with me. I'm a former adjunct professor and public school teacher, and firmly believe the education establishment is corrosive to free thought, Christianity and liberty. It is an incestuous little world of groupthinking activists who spout fashionable buzzwords and have only the barest understanding of their craft.

Anything that breaks the monopoly of the educrats is beautiful, in my opinion.

1 posted on 12/26/2011 8:23:58 AM PST by Discoshaman
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To: Discoshaman

I agree with your comments but Hate the use of the word “craft” Teaching and raising kids should be “vocations”

Pottery is a “craft”


2 posted on 12/26/2011 8:26:48 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Discoshaman
The Kindle and Nook may make for not only the most important advance in reading since Gutenberg, but also, quite likely, a major lesson in unintended consequences.

Kindle and Nook? You'll have to go back a bit further to find your Gutenburg-sized "advance."

And as for the prospect of a "world without teachers," -- the government employee type -- we can only hope.

3 posted on 12/26/2011 8:26:58 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Ignorance is no excuse.)
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To: metmom

homeschool ping


4 posted on 12/26/2011 8:27:02 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Discoshaman

I believe with the coming of the smart phone and ipad we are technologically capable of getting rid of the public school system. However, expect the fight of your life if you actually want to do that, because the bureaucracy will be fighting for its life. If not for indoctrination, for the simple fact that their pensions and retirements are a ponzi just like everything else, and require a constant inflow of new teachers to pay for the retirements of the old.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 8:31:34 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Discoshaman

A great story. The e-revolution brings with it the destruction of the foundation stone of modern liberalism, their domination of the education system.


6 posted on 12/26/2011 8:32:12 AM PST by denydenydeny (The more a system is all about equality in theory the more it's an aristocracy in practice.)
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To: Discoshaman
LOL!

Do you think the masses are going to keep their kids at home when they can send them to school and get free babysitting?

These people hate summer when school is out!

7 posted on 12/26/2011 8:32:24 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Discoshaman; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

8 posted on 12/26/2011 8:33:02 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Discoshaman
Anything that breaks the monopoly of the educrats is beautiful, in my opinion

Well then how about a side dish of vouchers?


9 posted on 12/26/2011 8:33:39 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Parents should seek out every opportunity available to them to keep their children out of the clutches of the public school system.


10 posted on 12/26/2011 8:34:30 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: lonestar
Do you think the masses are going to keep their kids at home when they can send them to school and get free babysitting?

Free? Seen your property tax bill lately? Yes, renters...you pay property taxes, as well...

11 posted on 12/26/2011 8:36:08 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: lonestar

I agree, sadly. The biggest difference between Asian and American students is that U.S. parents see education as something to outsource to the State...


12 posted on 12/26/2011 8:36:08 AM PST by Discoshaman (Check out my conservative scifi novel - Knox's Irregulars! http://www.knoxsirregulars.com)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Absolutely. The education establishment stopped being about teaching decades ago. It’s a self-licking ice cream cone these days...


13 posted on 12/26/2011 8:37:22 AM PST by Discoshaman (Check out my conservative scifi novel - Knox's Irregulars! http://www.knoxsirregulars.com)
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To: yldstrk

“Craft” is Skill in doing something or making a thing of quality.

“Vocation” is from the Latin, ‘to call’.

One focuses on the quality results, the other focuses on the person teaching.

“Vocation”, called for a particular task or service, is not far in meaning from the word used for someone who takes on a task, who commits themselves to it, who undertakes to do job.

“Undertakers” can be an accurate description of SOME teachers.


14 posted on 12/26/2011 8:38:51 AM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: nathanbedford

Totally. Vouchers would benefit not only the children who left the state-run schools, but those who remain, as public schools would be improved via competition.


15 posted on 12/26/2011 8:39:38 AM PST by Discoshaman (Check out my conservative scifi novel - Knox's Irregulars! http://www.knoxsirregulars.com)
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To: lonestar

I think maybe some educrats see the writing on the wall and that’s why so many unions are also now trying to unionize all day care workers.


16 posted on 12/26/2011 8:41:23 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: Discoshaman

Could ebooks bust the college book racket?


17 posted on 12/26/2011 8:42:11 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

YES, and they are trying to make “schooling” start at birth....


18 posted on 12/26/2011 8:44:26 AM PST by goodnesswins (Banning Christmas (and Christmas decorations) is something that commies do.)
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To: Discoshaman

That’s a nice thought but it will never happen because there is too much complicity among the teachers unions and state and local governments.

As I said,nice thought.


19 posted on 12/26/2011 8:44:43 AM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Discoshaman

Man, did you ever hit the nail on the head!

Look at the spread of that simple, but very effective teaching tool, Khan Academy, and the new paradigm they espouse for it.

Learn at home at your own pace, with the ability to go back to steps & concepts you do not fully grasp. Come to class to work your “homework” problems, even collaborating with classmates, while the teacher circulates, observes, corrects...TEACHES!


20 posted on 12/26/2011 8:44:43 AM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: BwanaNdege

Bwana Ndege - unazungumza kwa Kiswahili? Nilisoma Kiswahili huko Marekani, no sasa tunaishi Nairobi, Kenya... Na wewe?

And I like the line about undertakers. So true. Over 50% of public school teachers were in the bottom 25% of their college classes.


21 posted on 12/26/2011 8:47:19 AM PST by Discoshaman (Check out my conservative scifi novel - Knox's Irregulars! http://www.knoxsirregulars.com)
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To: Discoshaman

Until the electronic communications technology is capable of protecting itself from the figurative and literal crushing by the public school system, yours is nice pipe dream. There is evil in society, and some of that evil rests in public school teachers. (Or why else are there lists of school teachers who have had active sexual activities with school children?) Teachers are not going to go away. They will fight, unfairly, dirtily and arrogantly for their perceived rights to public salaries and benefits and, in the cases of some, their own sexual grazing territories.


22 posted on 12/26/2011 8:47:34 AM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine)
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To: junta

Wouldn’t that be great? It was a scandal what we were charging students each year for “new” editions of textbooks, back when I taught history.


23 posted on 12/26/2011 8:50:42 AM PST by Discoshaman (Check out my conservative scifi novel - Knox's Irregulars! http://www.knoxsirregulars.com)
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To: denydenydeny

“...the destruction of the foundation stone of modern liberalism, their domination of the education system.”

I hate to rain on the parade, but there is a difference between CAN replace the liberal dominated education and MAY replace it.

Look at the battle homeschooling parents have had just to remove a very few kids from the system. Imagine the fight if we tried to go to a system of apprenticeships, mentors, free-market winnowed basic schooling centers and schools driven by an ideology other than liberalism.

Liberals in academe, politics & the press know they are doomed if they loose control of the “little skulls full of mush”.


24 posted on 12/26/2011 8:53:34 AM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Discoshaman

“unazungumza kwa Kiswahili? Nilisoma Kiswahili huko Marekani, no sasa tunaishi Nairobi, Kenya... Na wewe?” Is that Swahili? As a child, I memorized the glossary or whatever you call it of Swahili phrases and sentences at the end of “Something of Value,” by Robert Ruark. Now I can’t even remember how to say, “Please get the soup in a hurry.” Well, maybe the “pese pese” part of it.


25 posted on 12/26/2011 9:01:15 AM PST by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: who knows what evil?

LOL

Do you think the people in public housing pay property taxes ...and they contribute mightily to the public school population!


26 posted on 12/26/2011 9:02:23 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Discoshaman
If we really wanted to be innovative, we would revisit not only the concept of the school, but also the library. These two institutions are over a thousand years old in their modern forms, but technology has made those forms irrelevant. They existed because information and knowledge was rare and valuable, and had to be preserved and shared cost effectively. The internet and computers completely disrupts those models.

What should a library be like today? It has been completely replaced by Google and the cloud as an effective knowledge repository. I am guessing that what remains of schools and libraries should focus on providing only what cannot be downloaded.

Instead of going to the library to check out a book, we could go to the library to check out a tool to fix our car or home. The training they offer can be more hands on vocational training. Instead of pooling our resources to provide knowledge, we can pool resources and share expensive machines. Our libraries can provide local 3d printing capability.

As for schools, they will provide instruction on physical education that requires interaction, in which I would put sports, music, art, and social skills building. The reading, writing, aritmetic will be left to computers.

27 posted on 12/26/2011 9:03:29 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I think unions are trying to unionize everybody they can because they want the dues!


28 posted on 12/26/2011 9:04:16 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: goodnesswins
YES, and they are trying to make “schooling” start at birth....

Here in CT they have started a new program called "Birth to 3". They literally want people to start at birth to start relying on the state to teach your children.

29 posted on 12/26/2011 9:05:11 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: yldstrk
Pottery is a "craft"

Semantics....mere semantics. The people who built this sort of stuff were referred to as "craftsmen"

As a (quite brilliant) engineer for the last 20 years who is 12 credits short of a degree, MGD is often heard to say, "School isn't the only place to get an education"

30 posted on 12/26/2011 9:05:45 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (Disgusted with it all.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Would YOU loan an expensive tool to SOMEONE you did not know? Nice idea....Libraries are re-inventing themselves as Community Centers....I have a friend who works in the system and she says it’s about pulling people in now....they have gathering areas for teens, etc....


31 posted on 12/26/2011 9:07:02 AM PST by goodnesswins (Banning Christmas (and Christmas decorations) is something that commies do.)
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To: BwanaNdege

I have to agree with discoshaman. It is a craft in the sense of a skill, discipline, technique. That is one definition of craft.

There are two problems with ineffective teachers. One, many aren’t themselves educated enough (not in ed courses, but subjects such as math, science, and english) to do a good job. Second, beyond teaching one or two children individually, you do need to have an affinity towards group teaching and public speaking. I’ve learned a lot from wonderful people, and I know some of them would be horrible in front of a classroom.

I have also found that people with affinity towards certain subjects, skills or talents tend to work harder at improving them. I have seen this in retail, home cooking, chemical research, and athletics.

Interestingly, there was a Townhall article a few weeks back that described a reading approach similar to the one with the foster child in the article. Students read Shakespeare out loud, stopped and looked up words they didn’t understand. That is how I learned Shakespeare.

We know phonics is effective for teaching the sound for each letter. Then students can read, look up the words, write, repeat. Very simple. Unfortunately this has been turned into some byzantine rube goldberg contraption.


32 posted on 12/26/2011 9:07:15 AM PST by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: junta

The college bookstore wanted $285.00 for my son’s Calculus II book (Used). I bought a “used” one from Amazon for $46.00 (delivered in 2 days). We couldn’t find a mark on the book that was delivered.


33 posted on 12/26/2011 9:07:15 AM PST by anoldafvet
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To: Discoshaman

I have your book on my new Kindle to read next!

I agree with most of your comment, but just had my 14 year old nephew staying with me over Christmas. He is home-schooled, and while there are many obvious benefits (his attitude, etc.), he is not studying with any rigor and is, in my opinion, missing some important topics. He’s good at math, but not really inclined to put in the time and effort to become competent; in other words, a typical teenaged boy.


34 posted on 12/26/2011 9:07:28 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Discoshaman

As a Homeschooling parent, I hope this never happens. Once “they” approve Home Education with Kindle or any type of Media - access to our home will be expected to “ensure” that “all children” receive the “benefit”.

As much as I dislike Public Schooling - in some instances that is probably better for the child than home life. It may be their only chance to escape the System through another branch of the System.


35 posted on 12/26/2011 9:07:55 AM PST by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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To: Discoshaman
Anything that breaks the monopoly of the educrats is beautiful, in my opinion.

I think we need to start with the flawed premise implicit in the title of the article - that only public school union drones can be "teachers". Getting rid of the education establishment doesn't mean a world without teachers. It means a world without bureaucrats telling us who can and can't be a teacher.

36 posted on 12/26/2011 9:08:38 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: BwanaNdege

“Learn at home at your own pace, with the ability to go back to steps & concepts you do not fully grasp.” That’s the key for some of us. As a child, I was out of the classroom for half the year because of contracting a few childhood diseases sequentially. I did the homework assignments and received a prize for getting the highest average in the class. As an adult, a career change necessitated more math classes. I did them via correspondence courses from the state university and reported for exams that were purportedly the same as the ones given to their onsite students. Straight A’s. Would not have been able to do that in a classroom situation that rushes through the curriculum and doesn’t allow one to digest and play with the concepts.


37 posted on 12/26/2011 9:09:59 AM PST by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

That’s a wonderful model!


38 posted on 12/26/2011 9:12:41 AM PST by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: goodnesswins
Would YOU loan an expensive tool to SOMEONE you did not know?

No, I would not, I would make sure I knew who they were before I loaned it to them. Rental companies exist today that make money renting out machines costing tens of thousands of dollars to people, it can be done. And the tools may also stay at the librariy, which may transform into something looking more like a garage/laboratory/factory.

39 posted on 12/26/2011 9:14:20 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: SuzyQue

Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the book! :)

I agree, about 5% of homeschooling parents give the rest a bad name. Though that’s much better than the 75% of public school teachers who give the rest a bad name! LOL


40 posted on 12/26/2011 9:14:37 AM PST by Discoshaman (Check out my conservative scifi novel - Knox's Irregulars! http://www.knoxsirregulars.com)
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To: who knows what evil?
Yes, renters...you pay property taxes, as well...

You know that, and I know that...but do you think most of them know that?

Recently we had a $40 MILLION bond election in our town of less than 8000 pop. We have less than 400 kids in the local high school.

The school supt. who was pushing the bond was campaigning in the "projects". They wanted to spend $9 MILLION on a covered football practice field and a new stadium. They took the ballot box to football games so people could vote there.

It failed. Several people I know who own rental property went to their renters and told them if it passed, their rent would be going up immediately to pay for it.

My school taxes are already 3X what my other property taxes are.

41 posted on 12/26/2011 9:16:20 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar
Do you think the people in public housing pay property taxes ...and they contribute mightily to the public school population!

There are exceptions to every rule...sigh...you are right. However; I run into people all the time who think they don't pay property taxes because they are 'renters'...

42 posted on 12/26/2011 9:17:00 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: tacticalogic

I agree, at least as I understand what you’re saying. My ultimate ideal isn’t individual homeschooling. I’d like to see technologically savvy private schools in which parents are heavily involved - a coop model, if you will.

This is especially so for Christian education. I think the church as a covenant community should come together and develop such schools whenever possible. This would be a great help to single moms, parents who can’t afford to homeschool, etc.

Teaching is a noble craft, profession, calling, etc. But I do think the current model is neither desirable nor indefinitely sustainable. Have you read much of Instapundit’s stuff on the higher education bubble, for instance?


43 posted on 12/26/2011 9:18:06 AM PST by Discoshaman (Check out my conservative scifi novel - Knox's Irregulars! http://www.knoxsirregulars.com)
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To: lonestar

It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. Get more dues,get more members, grow more gubmint.


44 posted on 12/26/2011 9:19:56 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: lonestar
You know that, and I know that...but do you think most of them know that?

I do my best to inform them...

45 posted on 12/26/2011 9:20:28 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: raybbr
As the article clearly stated, the formation of the “modern” public school system was an attempt to counter the high cost of contemporary books a new school system must be developed.

The digital age has changed the very nature of information. Prior to the electronic web knowledge as possession. I had the book, went to the class, or developed it myself. In any case it was mine. In today's world knowledge is one of location - I know where to go get the information that I need or want.

Fifty years ago when I went to college the schools used to advertise the size of their libraries and inter-library lending agreements. Now they advertise the IT systems.

What is the future of the American System? How about a replay of the 18th Century? We formed the central school system to make good a shortfall - lack of personal libraries. So why not reorganize the central school systems to make good the lack of home science laboratories, bands, choruses, and other socialization activities?

46 posted on 12/26/2011 9:22:21 AM PST by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: lonestar
Several people I know who own rental property went to their renters and told them if it passed, their rent would be going up immediately to pay for it.

Good for them...

47 posted on 12/26/2011 9:22:47 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Do you really think the average Joe/Jane cares about that? It’s free babysitting in their minds, regardless of the hidden costs, even if they aren’t really all that hidden.


48 posted on 12/26/2011 9:24:04 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: BwanaNdege

>>Look at the spread of that simple, but very effective teaching tool, Khan Academy, and the new paradigm they espouse for it.

Learn at home at your own pace, with the ability to go back to steps & concepts you do not fully grasp. Come to class to work your “homework” problems, even collaborating with classmates, while the teacher circulates, observes, corrects...TEACHES!<<

The Khan Academy is a very interesting development, and I believe several schools (or at least teachers within those schools) will soon take up his model. The term that’s being used to describe it is “Flip the Classroom” because the traditional model of lecturing in school and then reviewing by doing homework is “flipped.” Instead, kids first study the Khan lectures at home, and then, in the classroom, do the problems they used to do as homework, but with the teacher available to guide individual students as they encounter difficulty. (I suspect though that, in time, the lectures will be viewed during the school day, at school.)

Anyway, what they are finding is that, in math for instance, kids run into difficulty at different places, with different concepts, and that the old model would leave kids “in the dust” because they couldn’t progress, but the old model would continue on, losing kids along the way. In the new model, kids who are stuck are identified, and don’t progress to the next lesson (at home) until they get “unstuck.” They also find that nearly all kids successfully complete the curriculum under the new model. In other words, nearly all turn out to be capable of learning math, a scary subject to many under the present model.

As for homeschooling, the Khan Academy would be perfect for it, as long as the parent or older child acting as tutor was able to stay ahead of the child by understanding the curriculum themselves. (It’s hard to tutor when you’re lost yourself.) Since most of this could be done online from home, I could even see self-styled online “tutors” helping kids at home and getting a solid reputation for success.

The time will come when parents in a community realize that there’s someone they can hire online who is succeeding at getting 8th graders through an entire high school math curriculum in a year using the Khan Academy and the tools available there for student evaluation. When that day comes, public education had better be changing fast or it will be losing “customers” at a rapid pace, especially if there’s a successful voucher movement underway by then. We might well return to the one-room country school model in that environment, where 20-40 kids of all ages gathered near their homes in a couple of rooms with wireless internet, each owning an Ipad, the older tutoring the younger, all under the guidance of one or two adult tutors, with something like the Khan Academy providing the initial instruction.

And the political philosophy of those tutors would be well known to the parents of the children, I might add.


49 posted on 12/26/2011 9:24:18 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Do you really think the average Joe/Jane cares about that?

No, but I'm not going to shut up about it...might reach someone.

50 posted on 12/26/2011 9:29:45 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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