Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ron Paul Is Crazy. Admit It.
sfweekly.com ^ | 12/26/2011 | Peter Jamison

Posted on 12/26/2011 9:17:36 AM PST by TBBT

Congressman Ron Paul grabbed the lion's share of headlines among GOP presidential candidates last week, and not just because he is the latest improbable figure to challenge the inevitable nomination of Mitt Romney.

The conservative Weekly Standard ran a rehash by writer James Kirchik of an article he wrote for the New Republic in 2008 that collates, to deadly effect, the astoundingly bizarre, racist, and anti-Semitic comments Paul broadcast in a series of newsletters he published for two decades. Paul implausibly claims the newsletters (written in the first person and bearing his name) were produced by others, but it really doesn't matter. The time has come, as Kirchik helpfully reminds us, to recognize Paul for what he is.

He is not -- as some disillusioned moderates and media pundits like to believe -- a refreshing, small-government Republican with a healthy distaste for Wall Street and foreign adventurism. He is a clinically paranoid (and likely bigoted) conspiracy theorist. And you don't even have to cite his newsletters to prove it.

I paid some attention to Paul's 2008 campaign, because at the time I was assigned by my newspaper to cover two of his biggest fans: Ed and Elaine Brown, a pair of New Hampshire tax cheats who engaged in a months-long standoff with the U.S. Marshals Service over the couple's refusal to pay federal income taxes. The Browns believed they lived on a sovereign enclave atop a hill in rural Plainfield, N.H., stockpiled scary weapons, and threatened violence against any federal agents who came on their property.

You would think a presidential aspirant would want to distance himself from such wackos. Not Paul, who declared in a videotaped interview that the Browns were "heroes":

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.sfweekly.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: morethorazineplease; paul; paulnuts; paultards; ronpaul; spotthelooney
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-104 next last
Ron Paul's "heroes"... Along with Wikileaks and Bradley Manning...
1 posted on 12/26/2011 9:17:38 AM PST by TBBT
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: TBBT

No argument here. I just can’t figure out where his supporters will go once he is out of the race.


2 posted on 12/26/2011 9:18:34 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

Oh, alright. He’s a bit of a loon.


3 posted on 12/26/2011 9:18:56 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

Even granting that he is crazy, he is still better than Mitt.


4 posted on 12/26/2011 9:20:37 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RIghtwardHo

They will still back him. Most are as looney as he is.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 9:21:23 AM PST by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Hieronymus

Ron Paul is the only guy who cannot beat BO.


6 posted on 12/26/2011 9:21:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: TBBT
I can already tell that Obama will be reelected in 2012.

Thanks to the Republicans cannibalizing themselves.

So much for Regan's 11th commandment.

Remember times like this when Obama is sworn back into office in 2012. Then you can pat yourself on the back and say thank God I get rid of all those other candidates.

For the record... Romney will not win because conservatives do not trust him. Newt will not win because Independents do not like him.

Oh and if Trump runs then without a doubt the Republicans will be in the permanent minority. Oh and you will see the rise of the Tea Party.

7 posted on 12/26/2011 9:25:51 AM PST by Sprite518
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver
You should not have to worry about who can beat BO. Why is he not being prosecuted?

http://www.westernjournalism.com/susan-daniels-explains-obamas-social-security-number-reserved-for-connecticut-applicants/

8 posted on 12/26/2011 9:26:48 AM PST by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

Saul Alinsky.

Not just for commies anymore.


9 posted on 12/26/2011 9:27:26 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

Ron Paul has a huge following. I see his fans as the most likely source of a third party than anything else out there, and I don’t see it being a one hit wonder,either.


10 posted on 12/26/2011 9:27:58 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

Ron Paul can’t supervise a newsletter staff, but he can staighten out America!


11 posted on 12/26/2011 9:28:29 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TBBT
I have a great idea!

Rather than talking about boring stuff like policy and limiting the federal government to its enumerated powers, let's just believe every state-controlled media smear we hear about any and every non-Democrat candidate and cluck our tongues and exclaim "What were they thinking when they ran for office!"

Character assassination is a lot more fun than that other stuff.

12 posted on 12/26/2011 9:30:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RIghtwardHo
No argument here. I just can’t figure out where his supporters will go once he is out of the race.

Back to Mom's basement...

or publishing screeds at Stormfront...

or the asylum...

or their next shift at Starbucks...

Or their tent at Occupy where ever...

13 posted on 12/26/2011 9:30:30 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

He’s not crazy. He’s just neurologically challenged!

LOL!


14 posted on 12/26/2011 9:31:00 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RIghtwardHo
I just can’t figure out where his supporters will go once he is out of the race.

Same place Sarah Palin's and Herman Cain's supporters did - to the next best candidate.

I just can't figure out whether Republicans will be even half as rough on Obama once we actually have a candidate, as we are on our own. Good grief.

15 posted on 12/26/2011 9:31:02 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bump.


16 posted on 12/26/2011 9:31:56 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: RIghtwardHo
>>I just can’t figure out where his supporters will go once he is out of the race.<<

Why they'll fall back in line and vote for the lesser of two evils.

Gee wizz, I wish we could have someone ride in to the rescue. Maybe The Maverick for Change will save the day?

17 posted on 12/26/2011 9:33:05 AM PST by servantboy777
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: TBBT
he's a 1000% better than Obama in any race !
18 posted on 12/26/2011 9:33:46 AM PST by jrd
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RIghtwardHo

Right back to Obama, no doubt.


19 posted on 12/26/2011 9:34:05 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: RIghtwardHo

Not to a party that mocks them and calls them names I can tell you that. We are supposed to be solicitous to the feelings of lefty “centrists” but libertarians are fair game for tar, feathering, and being run off as if they aren’t potential voters themselves.


20 posted on 12/26/2011 9:34:26 AM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ChocChipCookie

Exactly. Remember in 2008 at the convention he didn’t get to speak and had to talk to his supporters downtown somewhere. Think any of his supporters voted for McCain.Same thing will happen again. Keep trashing Paul and his supporters will give the election to Obama in a landslide.


21 posted on 12/26/2011 9:34:33 AM PST by littlesorrel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Guess the republicans are so confident of victory they can afford to kiss off all those voters.


22 posted on 12/26/2011 9:35:32 AM PST by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Telepathic Intruder

“He’s a bit of a loon.”
His supporters are nuttier.One guy in our neighborhood is a big Paul supporter,if he ever goes off his meds there’s be problems....


23 posted on 12/26/2011 9:36:23 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: TBBT
Perot Ross Toss, Perot Ross Coin Toss
24 posted on 12/26/2011 9:37:07 AM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: littlesorrel

Ron Paul’s support is growing across the board, not just among Republicans. If he should go third party, he would take voters from both Dim and Repubs, unlike the Tea Party, which would siphon off primarily Republicans.


25 posted on 12/26/2011 9:37:07 AM PST by ChocChipCookie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum
Character assassination is a lot more fun than that other stuff.,/p>

Paul shot his own character...

And his spam monkeys just keep forcing it to be replayed to their own detriment.

26 posted on 12/26/2011 9:37:15 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

I am trying to go to each “example” of Paul’s “looniness” to understand them in context.

In this case, you have misquoted and mischaracterized what he said in the interview. He gave a lengthy and reasoned explanations and (paraphrasing) said that it was heroic to stand up against unjust laws.

In context, I really don’t see what the problem with his statement is. Didn’t the original Tea Party folks break the law of the day when it was unjust and related to taxation? Were their “illegal” efforts heroic?


27 posted on 12/26/2011 9:37:43 AM PST by monkeypants (It's a Republic, if you can keep it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FrankR

Perot was right.


28 posted on 12/26/2011 9:38:13 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

Hus actions and words speak for themselves. They literally scream nut bag.............


29 posted on 12/26/2011 9:40:02 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

The death throes of the Republican elephant are so ugly.


30 posted on 12/26/2011 9:40:29 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SaxxonWoods
LOL...

True dat...

"President" Ron Paul circa 2014:

"I didn't know my Sec. of State surrendered to Iran, I just appointed them, I am not responsible for what they say and do or what I sign when they give it to me..."

31 posted on 12/26/2011 9:40:37 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: ejonesie22
Man, this is so much more fun and productive.

I am so glad we thought of this.

This is much more important than defeating Ubama.

32 posted on 12/26/2011 9:41:57 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: ChocChipCookie

He would get the Tea Party vote after the GOP establishment is trying to kill off the Tea Party and Palin.


33 posted on 12/26/2011 9:42:03 AM PST by littlesorrel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is very productive, the sooner Paul is out of the mix the less crazy our side looks.


34 posted on 12/26/2011 9:43:25 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Captain7seas

Should has nothing to do with it anymore. Rotten to the core.


35 posted on 12/26/2011 9:45:39 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: monkeypants

See also: “Jury Nullification”.


36 posted on 12/26/2011 9:46:56 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("FREE TRADERS": Self-loathing Americans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

He’s either crazy or malicious or stupid or just gravely careless about what he says and writes (or allows to to be written in his name). None of which I find particularly attractive in a back-bench Congressman, let alone a presidential candidate.


37 posted on 12/26/2011 9:56:33 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: EternalVigilance

Tom, are you guys working to draft Congressman Paul as your nominee yet?


38 posted on 12/26/2011 9:56:38 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

Ron Paul is nuts (while being absolutely correct on most domestic issues), but unless the Virginia GOP either willingly, or under duress by court challenges, finds a way to put Gingrich and Perry on the primary ballot or allow write-ins in the primary, I hope every FReeper in VA votes for the nut in the GOP Primary to deny the establishment their intent of making sure Romney gets all the VA delegates.


39 posted on 12/26/2011 9:57:08 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver

At least he wouldn’t destroy the Repbulican party and position as badly as Mitt would.


40 posted on 12/26/2011 9:59:38 AM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not even when hell freezes over. You own him. He’s one of your “front-runners” for goodness sake.


41 posted on 12/26/2011 9:59:58 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: driftdiver
"Ron Paul is the only guy who cannot beat BO."

Ha-ha! In my opinion, Ron Paul is the only Republican who could beat Obama.

Think about it; Ron Paul is the anti-Obama, whereas the RINOS are merely some kind of "liberal lite". The lack of contrast between the dem/communist and any old RINO will assure the dem victory.

What we need to run against Obama and the dems is a conservative, and Ron Paul is the only one.

42 posted on 12/26/2011 10:02:38 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Designer
What we need to run against Obama and the dems is a conservative, and Ron Paul is the only one.

Well, other than the fact that he isn't a conservative.

43 posted on 12/26/2011 10:04:02 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: ejonesie22
Who do we get to smear next!

I can't wait!

You don't really want to actually focus on boring stuff, do you?

Admit it. This is much easier.

44 posted on 12/26/2011 10:04:26 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
Saul Alinsky.

Not just for commies anymore.


ROFL Thanks, needed the laugh!
45 posted on 12/26/2011 10:05:09 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: TBBT
Photobucket
46 posted on 12/26/2011 10:08:25 AM PST by baddog 219
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TBBT

First they came for Palin and I simply stood by waiting for others to defend her. Then they came for Cain. Then they came for Perry. Then they came for Newt. Then they came for Paul. But they NEVER came Mitt. Of course, they WILL come for Mitt. But not for a while yet. They always come for us and we do nothing. We just roll over and take it. We must like be beaten into dust.


47 posted on 12/26/2011 10:11:07 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: baddog 219

He does look natural in an Aluminum helmet.


48 posted on 12/26/2011 10:11:15 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: monkeypants
I am trying to go to each “example” of Paul’s “looniness” to understand them in context.

In this case, you have misquoted and mischaracterized what he said in the interview. He gave a lengthy and reasoned explanations and (paraphrasing) said that it was heroic to stand up against unjust laws. ...


:Like you, I have found, any time I have been able to track down the entire newletter referenced in a Ron Paul smear, the smear has been a dissembling partial truth.

Like him or not Paul, brings to the campaign serious questions that warrant discussion, questions about big government, how US taxpayer money is spent, foreign policy, the role of the Fed...

While my research thus far leads me to believe that Ron Paul is naive regarding the most basic motivation of Jihadis, consider the following:

GW kept reminding us that 'Islam is a religion of 'peace'. Never mentioned that Islam is a total political system and peace is achieved when there is a world wide caliphate under Sharia.

Ultimately Paul's foreign policy would be better for both Israel and Christianity.

While Israel would get no foreign aid, neither would its enemies:
2011 Interview

Newsmax: What should our relationship be with Israel?
Ron Paul:
We should be their friend and their trading partner. They are a democracy and we share many values with them. But we should not be their master. We should not dictate where their borders will be nor should we have veto power over their foreign policy.
... Stop and consider America’s policy: We give $3 billion a year to Israel in loans; and we give $12 billion or more in assistance to Israel’s self-declared enemies. Some of these are countries that say they will drive Israel into the sea.
... We should share intelligence for mutually agreed-upon goals. We should honor our pledge to refuse any arms sales that would undermine Israel’s qualitative military edge in the region.

As a result of nation building, promoting 'democracy' in the middle east, and PC immigration:

Iraq's Christians Near Extinction

Per Pamela Geller "US policy regarding the refugee resettlement program would shock most Americans if they only knew. The UN picks who becomes US refugees. Christians are being refused refugee status and face persecution and many times certain death for their religious beliefs under the sharia, while whole Muslim communities are entering the US by the tens of thousands per month despite the fact that they face no religious persecution"

Paul would stop funding the UN and pull us out of all treaties that impinge upon our sovereignty. His proposed budget would shut down entire federal bureaucracies while preserving military pensions. Could shutting don the tax payer funded trough be what has the political elite so p*ssed and resorting to smear tactics?
49 posted on 12/26/2011 10:12:38 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Hieronymus

The current GOP boneheads WANT mittens.


50 posted on 12/26/2011 10:12:42 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-104 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson