Skip to comments.Stolen iPad Gives Away Location Of Christmas Gifts Burglar
Posted on 12/27/2011 7:10:20 AM PST by BenLurkin
WESTLAKE VILLAGE (CBS) The pinging of an iPad led police to a burglary suspect and more than 40 stolen Christmas presents.
Around 3:30 AM on Christmas Sunday, a Westlake Village man was awakened by the sounds of a burglary in progress in his home on the 4000 block of Whitesail Circle.
Lt. James Royal of the Malibu/Lost Hills sheriffs station says the man confronted the intruder and chased him a short distance before losing sight of him.
The burglar made off with an Apple iPad.
Later that morning, the victim called the station and told the deputies his iPad was pinging from a nearby home, says Royal. Deputies responded to the location, located the iPad, and arrested the suspect.
The suspect was identified as Patrick Krewson, 20, of Vista.
Royal says further investigation led deputies to a burglary just a few days prior, in which two flat screen televisions, a laptop computer, and more than 40 Christmas presents were taken.
Police located all of the stolen property during a search of Krewsons residence.
When Malibu/Lost Hills deputies notified the Vista victim that her Christmas presents had been located in time to give them to the children for Christmas, she began to cry, Royal said.
Krewson was being held in lieu of $50,000 bail for Sundays Westlake Village incident.
San Diego authorities will file additional charges against him for earlier the Vista burglary.
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Someone would be a total idiot to steal a smartphone or computer of any kind now, unless they REALLY know what they are doing regarding computers/networking. I don’t think thieves that break into houses are of the most brilliant minds though.
Well, when my son’s IPad was stolen when he left it in a shopping cart in a Walmart in TX the police there told him that they couldn’t do anything about it, even tho it was pinging. They said it was considered abandoned, even tho it was in a cart inside a store. I’m sure a Walmart employee walked off with it (it was pinging for a day at the location of the store). The store wouldn’t do anything and the police blew him off as well. Hard to imagine the difference between TX and CA. Oh, and it had his name inscribed on it as well. Abandoned indeed. I suppose if you leave your keys in your car it’s also ok for someone to take it, since clearly you just abandoned it.
What’s good about this is you know where the guy is and you don’t have to call the cops.
Microsoft strikes again!
Oh the huge manatees!
Not being a computer expert I don’t know, but can you change the MAC address of a computer?
>>>Not being a computer expert I dont know, but can you change the MAC address of a computer?
It’s built in to the physical network interface... replace that, and MAC address is changed on a computer.
“I suppose if you leave your keys in your car its also ok for someone to take it,”
Do that and after someone drives off with it you can call your insurer and they’ll tell you, “you left the keys in it and its a gift”, they will not pay you a dime.
You leave iPad in Walmarts and it ain’t stolen, its stupidity or maybe he didn’t spend any of his own money, time and effort acquiring it.
Just last week, a colleague of my wife sat an iPhone down in a store and briefly forgot it. He came back not five minutes later and it was gone, of course. He had installed the “Find my iPhone” app which dutifully located it and he called the police with the information. The police promptly went to the house (surprise!) and recovered the property. The teenage miscreant said he was going to turn the property in to the police anon, so the victim told the police not to press charges.
When the owner got his iPhone back, it had been wiped clean by the perp who was obviously going to put it up on Craig’s List. So he reversed his decision and has filed charges against the kid.
I love stories like these.
You can however switch out the NIC for another one but that can be expensive if the NIC is hardwired into the motherboard.
Yes, and no. There are utilities that can be installed that will 'spoof' a MAC Address, allowing a user to make it appear to the OS and the network as something other than what is burned into the net adapter.
He tried dealing with Walmart, but they kept blowing him off and by the time he got someone to deal with it, it was off of their property (likely what they wanted). I wasn’t really interested in him going to someone’s house. I had hoped the police would do that. But I was pretty amazed that the police wouldn’t do anything about it. They can be worse than worthless. I can’t remember exactly how long it stayed in the Walmart property but it was quite awhile (he had to be at home to track it if I recall —I think from his home computer). I was so angry. Here you have an option to track something and it does you no good.
After the fact I actually looked up the law and the policeman was incorrect. If you leave something on someone’s property (Walmart in this case) and someone else (not the property owner) picks it up and leaves with it, it IS still stealing, it is not considered abandoned. The policeman was incorrect. And no, someone cannot just take your car from a parking lot because you left it, even if you did leave your keys in it. That does not constitute abandoning it. The property owner might have a claim on it after a time, but just some Joe Blow does not. The policeman was a lazy idiot who did not want to do his job.
If the policeman had been correct, what is to stop people from walking out (legally) with Walmart property and assuming it’s abandoned?
Well God bless those police. They need to go work in Plano Texas!
So i need an “app” on my iPad to get it to do this?
There are two ways to change the MAC address in Windows.
Lost, mislaid, and abandoned property are categories of the common law of property which deals with personal property which has left the possession of its rightful owner without having directly entered the possession of another person. Property can be considered lost, mislaid or abandoned depending on the circumstances under which it is found by the next party who obtains its possession.
The rights of a finder of such property are determined in part by the status in which it is found. Because these classifications have developed under the ancient and often archaic common law of England, they turn on nuanced distinctions. The general rule attaching to the three types of property may be summarized as: A finder of property acquires no rights in mislaid property, is entitled to possession of lost property against everyone except the true owner, and is entitled to keep abandoned property. This rule varies by jurisdiction.
Yeh, the police are not the best source for getting either a legal opinion or a good reference to the possible applicable laws.
I heard about a situation where the stolen device was located at a home. Don’t know all the details but the device owner was outside the home with the police. The police knocked and gave the folk(s) in the home the option to return it, no questions asked, no charges, or else they would come back with a warrant.
Sounds fishy, didn’t think LEO had that much leeway in this kind of matter.
Just realize if charges were pressed, the device becomes evidence and is in lock-up for many months if not longer.
Yeah, basically because it was mislaid inside Walmart, it was not the right of anyone comping upon it to walk out of the store with it. Especially since it had a name engraved on it AND when they turned it on it said who it should be returned to with an address etc.
They aren’t all idiots, but enough of them are pretty lazy.
Most of the time the network connection is on the motherboard.
Few people would know how to change the MAC address on the motherboard.
Well, unfortunately my son also had to go out of town for work very shortly afterwards. Walmart supposedly has someone who deals with this sort of issue and assured him they were going thru their process, etc. Bottom line? They don’t. I suspect an employee took it and this gave them enough time to get it out of there and get it turned off and do whatever they do with them. Fortunately my son got his info wiped from it, so they didn’t get any of his info. It just makes me mad when people get away with things, and especially when our paid employees (the police) don’t do their jobs.
On the other hand, my OTHER son dropped his fairly new IPad and shattered the screen. He took it to the Apple store to see if they would be able to port his data over to a new one and if they maybe had refurbished ones and what that would cost (he was pretty devastated that he had broken it). Well, amazingly, they GAVE him a BRAND NEW ONE and ported his data to the new one. Oh, and no it was NOT insured. Can you believe that? So let me see, Walmart and the police ZERO, Apple Store 100!
Not really. Just buy a NIC and pop it into an open PCI slot. Then disable the old adapter via Network Connections.
“I suppose if you leave your keys in your car its also ok for someone to take it, since clearly you just abandoned it.”
Unfortunately, yes. At least in any state where I’ve lived.
Yep you can for sure all kinds of hack programs to do it but just download a copy of BackTracK Linux you can also use this to find how easy it is to hack into your WIFI so you can better protect it. WEP keys take less than a minute to crack WPA can take hours...
Part of the employee training at Walmart is that employees should ignore shoplifters. IOW, all that scanning of baskets when you're leaving is nothing but show.
Kiddo's cell phone was stolen so we contacted the company to get the numbers that had been called on it and tracked down the thief. Hubby put on his LE uniform and paid a visit to the little twerp.
Last year, kiddo ordered a computer from the HP website and we know for a fact someone at HP ran up my credit card with several hundred dollars worth of Apple iTunes and movies. We had the IP address the orders came from in CA but our local cops wouldn't do anything. HP wouldn't do anything even though it was their bleepin' fault. Apple wouldn't do anything. My credit card wouldn't do anything but did take off the charges after getting snippy with me. I hated Apple before this so now I despise them and I will NEVER buy another HP product again.
The reason for the different outcomes with regards to stolen property is simple,
Whitesail Circle is on the Lake in Westlake Village, it is a Gated Community of Multi Million Dollar Homes, If you live in one of these communities the Police Work for You, If not You are merely a Subject not to be burdened and you shall be cited for anything we can think of in order to fund our retirement with. Got It
He should have told them that by that definition everything in the store was abandoned.
Every car in the parking lot.
Everything they owned in their house.
Anything outside their house.
Then I would have called the local paper, and made a sign for myself - to stand in front of the store:
“Cops support Walmart Stealing my Property”. maybe make some flyers, with the name of the manager of the store, and the chief of police - to hand out.
In your case, AIN’T means SOL.
Having another one free replaced by Apple, without insurance, means WE all pitch in to pay. Sorta sounds like a nice lib gubmint program.
My experience was much the same when my Samsung Droid Charge was stolen 2 days after I purchased it. To add insult to injury, it had a small problem that caused me to order a replacement. The stolen phone was supposed to be returned. I ended up having to pay $750 for it.
I found the house where it was, but the police wouldn’t do anything about it. I live in a small town and see the trash fairly often about town. It is galling. They were the people standing behind me in line to pay at a restaurant. I set it on the counter to dig my billfold out of my purse to pay. When I reached for the phone, both it and the people were gone. Not only did they steal my phone, they possibly walked the ticket at the restaurant.
Restaurant had no cameras and the 2 girls working there didn’t seem to care. I couldn’t get them to call the police to report the food theft. They pretended not to understand English. This made me wonder if they were possibly in on it and did this often.
I’m still angry about it. Now I keep a password in the phone and a program that will make it a bit harder for them to enjoy.
There is all kinds of software out there that will let you change the MAC reported by a NIC. I've used it before when I needed to spoof a specific MAC to get a particular software load on a computer.
There was no profit in it for them.
Now, if you'd told them the perp had one of the lights out that illuminates his licence plate, they'd be all over it.
Leavin for san diego tomorrow!....for good.
good bye portland! =]
December 19 at 12:50am near Portland, OR · “
Hard to tell if this guy is still in the Army, too bad his urban thug worshiping criminal side got the best of him.
Portland PD might want to check and see if he’s linked to any thefts there.
I believe you are referring to cloning a MAC address. You aren’t really physically changing the MAC address on the NIC, but you are making the software believe that it is communicating with a different NIC. I remember doing this when I got my first cable modem and the cable company had it running on the one computer (they used to charge extra monthly fees to have more than one computer connected). So I cloned my PC MAC address to a hub so that the cable company would still think I was just using the one computer - even though I was now sharing the connection with multiple PCs.
Wow. Different experience for me here in CA. I lost my iPad in a Anthropology store in downtown San Francisco last summer. It's a crowded women's store, my wife was shopping, and I was tired while waiting for her. I had set it down to put my jacket on and gather up shopping bags. By the time I realized it was gone, I called the store but they said it could not be found. I used the Find My iPhone/iPad service and it was pinging from a hotel a mile away.
I filed a police report with the pinging location information, and the police created an incident report as lost/stolen. I also filed lost reports with local transit in case it turned up there. Fearing for my data, I issued a remote wipe command.
I got lucky. Two weeks later BART transit notified me my iPad was turned in, and I retrieved it. Must have been a tourist who picked it up, brought it to their hotel, then decided to give it up upon their exit from their SF vacation (BART goes to SF Airport). I had cash and other valuables in the iPad carrying case, all still there. What helped is that I had inscribed my name and phone number on the iPad and case, kind of makes a thief feel guilty about keeping it.
This does not appear to be uniformly true in all states. And it doesn’t seem to be that it’s ok for the person to take, it, I suspect they are still guilty of a crime, but the car owner is also guilty of negligence, and they will probably have trouble claiming on insurance.
It does seem that there is very little interest these days in catching perps who actually do crimes.
OH, now it makes sense...
I might have, but it was my son (who doesn’t live anywhere near me). He’s an adult. I probably would have created a lot more waves. But, as I said, unfortunately he was going out of town for work and trusted them to do what they said they would do.
Really? I just thought “ain’t” meant you didn’t know how to speak proper English. A free IPad means their Customer Service rocks. I’m not sure how you pitched in for it. (what is “gubmint”?)
It really is frustrating. I’m not sure what we pay our police for. I guess to sit on the side of the road and run radar.
I think you hit the nail on the head. No profit in it for them. And I tend to support our law enforcement, but it does seem lately that I hear more and more of really lazy policework. And things like this make people who normally would support them dislike and distrust them.
That’s awesome, and I’m really happy for you. I had hoped that my son’s name being on his would help. But someone is walking around with his name on a nice new IPad. You know, the sad thing is, he’s the kind of guy who would do anything for anyone. I had thought, what about an app on them that when someone turned it on it immediately took a photo and sent it to your email and then popped up with a message that said, “You are in possession of my IPad and I have just taken a photo of you and sent it to my email address. If you return this within 5 hours to (your address) or call (your phone number) to make arrangements to return it, I will not give this information to the police and press charges for theft. The clock is ticking.”
How do you know it was the HP transaction? Whoever at HP might have had access to your credit card details would also have had access to many thousands of sets of credit card details. They could have made a lot more money by selling the data stream to the Russian mafia than by picking one out of many and using it to order stuff from iTunes (LOL). And, of course, they would ultimately get caught, and HP would be in deep doo-doo.
Apple wouldn't do anything. My credit card wouldn't do anything but did take off the charges after getting snippy with me. I hated Apple before this so now I despise them and I will NEVER buy another HP product again.
Hmm. That's the first I heard of the Apple-HP merger. If I were Apple, I wouldn't want the HP company. I'd content myself with stealing their best engineers.
I'm aware of apps that you can install, that allow you to take pictures remotely of the person using it. People have successfully used that on Mac laptops to catch thieves. But you have to have it in place before it's stolen.
What is pinging? All I have is a dinosaur Motorola Razr........
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