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Santorum for President [plus ping list]
December 27, 2011 | Antoninus

Posted on 12/27/2011 11:33:51 AM PST by Antoninus

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To: Antoninus

Please add me to the list


51 posted on 12/27/2011 1:10:19 PM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: CainConservative
Prediction = Single digits for Santorum.

Way to go out on a limb.

Question = Will Little Ricky endorse Willard as he did in 2008?

Cain did too. Or have you forgotten that? At least Santorum has hit Romney hard during the debates. I give him, Perry and Gingrich major points for doing that.
52 posted on 12/27/2011 1:14:03 PM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

‘Otherwise, I will not be voting GOP this election.’

In other words, odumbunny, by default — thanks you must REALLY love America to subject us to that Kenyan communist for another 4 years.

I don’t like some on the republican side at all — particularly Romney and that conspiracy nut Paul — HOWEVER, ANY republican is preferable to the Kenyan.


53 posted on 12/27/2011 1:34:00 PM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: Antoninus

I began to side with Santorum about a month ago for the reaons you eloquently express here; unfortunately few othrs have followed. Most people won’t back anyone whom the media has declared a dead duck. What is a no-brainer now to us, so many others can’t see.


54 posted on 12/27/2011 1:39:09 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Antoninus

Great post, Antoninus! Thanks!

The bouncing around that some people have done from candidate to candidate is reminiscent of a ping pong ball in a clothes dryer (Pawlenty-Bachmann-Perry-Cain-Gingrich-next-next-next.) I’ve supported Santorum from the beginning. I’ve contributed multiple times. I have proudly had a Santorum bumper sticker on my car for months. In spite of his low polling, he has always made me proud. I am not ashamed. I haven’t had to hold my nose.

There are quite a few others whom I would have been proud to support—Pence, Coburn, DeMint, Jindal, to name a few. But Santorum was the one who actually threw his hat into the ring. He’s all in. So am I.


55 posted on 12/27/2011 1:39:56 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Theodore R.
I began to side with Santorum about a month ago for the reaons you eloquently express here; unfortunately few othrs have followed. Most people won’t back anyone whom the media has declared a dead duck. What is a no-brainer now to us, so many others can’t see.

Don't give up. The situation is so fluid, anything can happen. Rick has set up a good organization in Iowa and if a few intangibles come through, he could make some serious noise there.
56 posted on 12/27/2011 1:41:47 PM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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To: Antoninus

Add me to the ping list, please. It’s been lonely out here in the mountains since Herman got skewered.


57 posted on 12/27/2011 1:45:21 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I admire you for standing up for Santorum when so many don’t consider him a serious candidate. He represents the three stools of conservatism better than the others, and there would be no skeletons coming out in October 2012. Less baggage for sure


58 posted on 12/27/2011 1:45:29 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Antoninus
Add me to your list please.

The man has a better grip on both foreign policy and the damage being wrought by the Department of State than anyone running. He is the only candidate with the will and stated desire to drain that fetid swamp.

59 posted on 12/27/2011 1:46:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Herman skewered himself. He is interesting and speaks well, but he withheld critical information from a Democrat, Gloria Cain.


60 posted on 12/27/2011 1:47:56 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Antoninus

Please add me to the Santorum ping list. Thanks for establishing this; it is needed with so few days left before IA.


62 posted on 12/27/2011 1:53:17 PM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Antoninus

Please add me to your ping list. Thank you.


63 posted on 12/27/2011 1:58:32 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Antoninus

Thanks for the ping. This is very exciting to have a Santorum list.


64 posted on 12/27/2011 2:24:57 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Antoninus
Please add me to the list. Speaking for myself I would hope that Bachmann would drop out and be his VP and a Santorum/Bachmann ticket could coalesce conservative support and gain momentum.
65 posted on 12/27/2011 2:40:42 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge (I'd rather be a birther than a leg tingler!)
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To: Antoninus

Please add me to your ping list. Don’t know if Santorum will still be running when the Michigan primary rolls around in the end of Feb. If he is I was planning on voting for him.


66 posted on 12/27/2011 2:45:04 PM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123 and Bahbah.)
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To: Antoninus

Please add me to the ping list. Thanks.


67 posted on 12/27/2011 2:46:57 PM PST by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan. Pray the Rosary)
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To: Antoninus

Please add me to the list too!


68 posted on 12/27/2011 3:08:32 PM PST by MaryLou1
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To: gemoftheocean

There’s no difference between Obama and Romney.

If Romney is the GOP candidate, I’ll vote third party. Because the conservative base will NOT turn out for Romney.


69 posted on 12/27/2011 5:21:13 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
There’s no difference between Obama and Romney. If Romney is the GOP candidate, I’ll vote third party. Because the conservative base will NOT turn out for Romney.

Me too. The GOP bigwigs are underestimating the size of the backlash against liberal Mitt. If they force him on us, they need to have their toys taken away from them and be put in time-out.
70 posted on 12/27/2011 5:51:14 PM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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To: All

Thanks, everyone. The ping list went from 1 to 27 after the first thread. I’d say there’s some interest in Santorum on FR.


71 posted on 12/27/2011 6:06:30 PM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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To: Antoninus

I like Rick. Please add me to your ping list. Thanks.


72 posted on 12/27/2011 6:08:42 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Antoninus

I don’t think he has much chance at the nomination, but if nominated he is a clean slate that could be packaged well given a real good team.


73 posted on 12/27/2011 7:14:42 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: Crichton
Rick's a good guy, but the biggest albatross around his neck is that he couldn't even crack 40% in his 2006 reelection bid against who is arguably the dumbest male member of the U.S. Senate.

Rick has lost fewer elections than Richard Nixon had lost.

74 posted on 12/27/2011 7:28:53 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Executive experience?????????????

Obama now has three years of "executive experience".

Does that mean Obama would be a better President than Rick Santorum, Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, etc.?

Plenty of former Presidents didn't have much, if any, executive experience, and Obama has "executive experience" now. Santorum has problems, but trying to rule him out based on that is ridiculous.
75 posted on 12/27/2011 7:56:27 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: RIRed
The one loss came in a Dem. year to the son of a political legend in the state. Two of the wins were against Dem. incumbents. All of the wins came in a blue state.

If Al Gore had won his own state, he'd be President and Florida wouldn't have mattered. This is a big problem I have with Santorum. PA has plenty of electoral votes.
76 posted on 12/27/2011 8:00:07 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Antoninus
Golden Gate; 

1. Antoninus - Very Nice Post! Good Job, and Ping me Up!

2. Everyone, take a minute and stop by and See Leroy! - (#7)

77 posted on 12/27/2011 8:05:00 PM PST by Golden Gate
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To: af_vet_rr

“Plenty of former Presidents didn’t have much, if any, executive experience, and Obama has “executive experience” now. Santorum has problems, but trying to rule him out based on that is ridiculous. “

... which is why you have one vote and I have one vote.

There is a difference between winning and governing. I would accept Rick over many other Republicans running and of course over Zero. Is he prepared? I doubt it.


78 posted on 12/27/2011 8:12:33 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: Steelfish

“...[Santorun] is capable of picking up the crucial female 29-49 demographic...”

How do you see that? My observation is that demographic is most “pro-choice.” I’d like to think you are right, but wonder what you base that comment on, is there any polling or studies to show that demographic would be open to voting for a staunchly pro-life candidate?


79 posted on 12/27/2011 8:31:03 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Antoninus; All

Please add me to the ping list.

Among other conservative issues, Santorum is passionately pro-life from conception to natural death, and walks the walk.

“On abortion, he is one of many senators who vote pro-life. The difference is that he is personally responsible for making sure a lot of these votes occur in the first place: He was an architect of the effort to ban partial-birth abortion, a strategy that energized the pro-life movement and allowed it to go on the political offensive.

By visiting the brain-damaged Terri Schiavo in Florida last year, Santorum may have hurt himself with voters, but he also demonstrated that he’s willing to take political risks to promote a culture of life.
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http://www.heymiller.com/2010/08/the-fate-of-rick/

His website is asking for as little as $10:

http://www.ricksantorum.com/


80 posted on 12/27/2011 9:00:18 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Antoninus

Add another to the list! Santorum and Bachman are the only conservatives in the race. Lesser of the RINO evils won’t get my vote.


81 posted on 12/27/2011 9:28:15 PM PST by RasterMaster ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: EDINVA

This demographic is not all that stable. They include single as well as married women who are more interested in economic progress, a non-threatening foreign policy, and of course someone who is reasonably telegenic. It also includes a fair percentage of moderate Catholics. Santorum is Catholic. Besides, if he, as favorite son, peels of PA, Obama is toast.


82 posted on 12/27/2011 10:41:25 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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83 posted on 12/27/2011 11:12:46 PM PST by natcie
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To: Golden Gate

Please add my to the lise


84 posted on 12/27/2011 11:13:58 PM PST by natcie
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To: Steelfish

I would hope that if Santorum were the nominee, he’d attract that demographic. Some years ago I was monitoring a gubernatorial election here in VA where in the closing weeks of the campaign, the D candidate made a huge issue of the R’s pro-life position (Wilder v Coleman, c. 1989?). I was shocked to see the white, middle class, family women at my then-neighborhood flocking to the polls to vote for Wilder. It was (at least then) a very R precinct. Wilder carried it by @ 60%, well above his statewide performance. The election was so close, Coleman got a free recount that turned out to be, essentially, the end of his political career. (well, except until John Warner resurrected him to run as an independent spoiler in ‘94 to fracture the R vote and assure that Chuck Robb would beat Ollie North for the U.S. Senate seat). My faith in white, middle class women to vote R was demolished that day.


85 posted on 12/27/2011 11:39:25 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Antoninus

Sign me up!


86 posted on 12/27/2011 11:45:45 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Antoninus

Liked the ad though he didn’t talk about what his vision is for the country and our out of control government. Shocked that the ad has twice as many dislikes as likes. Seriously, people despise him. I guess he is threatening to alternative lifestyles and people who like killing babies and want more of it.


87 posted on 12/27/2011 11:50:26 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: EDINVA

That’s strange since Reagan ran as pro-life as did Bush.


88 posted on 12/28/2011 8:16:06 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: EDINVA

That’s strange since Reagan ran as pro-life as did Bush.


89 posted on 12/28/2011 8:16:40 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: EDINVA

Edinva, the same think happened in TX a year later, when suburban women turned against Clayton W. Williams, Jr., and narrowly elected Ann Richards, who stressed her support for abortion. Had Williams won, there would have been no opening for GWB in 1994!


90 posted on 12/28/2011 8:40:52 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Steelfish

Do you think Santorum could win PA if he were the nominee? PA hasn’t elected a president since 1856, and home-state pride sometimes helps, but not for George McGovern in SD in 1972.


91 posted on 12/28/2011 8:42:43 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: Yaelle
Shocked that the ad has twice as many dislikes as likes.

I'm not at all. Santorum is hated by the pervert left. These people are stalkers--literally. They've even gone so far as to equate the man's name with a filthy homosexual act. That is what the mentally ill do, unfortunately.
92 posted on 12/28/2011 9:21:23 AM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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To: david1313
"Because Rick can’t win in his own state."

Unlike Newt, who's having trouble even getting on the ballot in his own state...

93 posted on 12/28/2011 9:28:05 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem. meum)
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To: Steelfish

“...Reagan ran as pro-life as did Bush.”

A major difference is that with Reagan, when you envisioned his political philosophy, his priorities, the first thing that came to mind was “anti-Communist, anti-USSR.” His pro-life position was a secondary consideration. In political terms developed since ‘80, Reagan was seen as a ‘national security’ candidate.

With Santorum, the first thing you think of is ‘pro-life,’ and ‘pro-(traditional) marriage.’ He is known primarily as a ‘social conservative,’ without an offset that involves the economy or national security. If Santorum were seen as strong on one of those issues it would affect the consideration of a pro-choice woman who would be willing put social issues lower on her priorities in consideration of a candidate to support.

Note: I am not saying Santorum hasn’t been involved in those issues, and am addressing perceptions only. The perception of Santorum is that he’s only a ‘social conservative.’ And the women I refer to are not those whose first and only issue is ‘choice,’ but those to whom it is important but not the only or top issue.

As to Bush ... well, he won his elections but not by margins approaching Reagan’s. He ran on a pro-life platform, but those social issues were not seen as his top and only issues.


94 posted on 12/28/2011 9:48:05 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Antoninus

Didn’t know Santorum had a daughter who was born with Trisomy 18. Didn’t know he home-schooled (we do, too!)

Maybe it’s a good thing he’s been below the radar while Cain and Gingrich were pummeled. They deflected the hate and rage of the MSM (and GOP) and perhaps now Santorum can be a phoenix and win the nomination. Hoping he can stop Romney!


95 posted on 12/28/2011 10:17:03 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Antoninus

Please add me to the Santorum ping list. Thanks.


96 posted on 12/28/2011 10:18:37 AM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Reddy
Maybe it’s a good thing he’s been below the radar while Cain and Gingrich were pummeled. They deflected the hate and rage of the MSM (and GOP) and perhaps now Santorum can be a phoenix and win the nomination. Hoping he can stop Romney!

From your keyboard to God's ears.
97 posted on 12/28/2011 10:28:03 AM PST by Antoninus (Defeat Romney--Defeat Obama.)
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To: Antoninus

Santorum is the most conservative, plus I believe he would make the most conservative appointments. I trust him above all the others.


98 posted on 12/28/2011 10:35:24 AM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Antoninus

Please add me, sir.


99 posted on 12/28/2011 11:04:41 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Antoninus
Santorum and Cain endorsed Romney in 2008, but the real shocker for many here, who are either new members or have tried hard and succeeded in forgetting the past, is that Freepers, unofficially as a group, favored Romney in 2008... once it was down to the final three of Romney, Huckabee and McCain. Or at least so our polling then showed IIRC. There certainly was a very strong anti-Romney group here then, which IMHO has grown even stronger since, and the majority of Freepers earlier favored either Duncan Hunter or Fred Thompson. But after they bowed out the anti-Huck and anti-McCain factors were stronger than the anti-Romney ones here.

I'm NOT saying this to support Mitt- I'm voting for Santorum Tuesday - we should remember the past here and learn from it. I'd be willing to try dragging Bachmann or Perry across the finish line in the fall, but believe Santorum is a far better choice. I don't trust Newt as far as I could throw Paul.

Santorum's negatives are Spector and his big 2006 loss. He lost big then for three reasons. #1 was Spector. Anyone who votes Obama over Santorum in the fall would be guilty of more of the same than was Santorum in choosing Spector over Toomey. Although worthy of consideration in the primaries the problem disappears in the general. #2 was voters were mad at Bush and congressional RINOS for going along with big spending Democrats in 2006. As they are now more mad at Obama than the RINOs and Bush isn't running that problem also disappears for Santorum in the general. That might be a problem if Mitt were the choice. It might also be problem were Perry the choice as Obama and the MSM would vigorously caricature him as W's dumber brother. I know he's not, but Perry hasn't show the ability to prove it! Santorum's #3 problem in 2006 was the left found the last pro-life name Democrat in the country to run against him, thus denying him the monopoly on pro-life single issue voters. With the most pro-abort Democratic running that problem also disappears in the general.

All the left can do to attack Santorum is to attack him on the issues. He's been through enough tough races to have outed any dirt on him; there isn't any. The only unvetted dirt would be Obama's. Most here would support his stands on the issues; certainly more so than Romney's stands. Unlike McCain he'll strongly defend those issues. If he does well in Iowa, especially if he beats Bachmann and Perry, he'll rise in the polls at their expense and start to become a plausible option. Get to where Cain had been in the polls and his "unelectable" label will be forgotten as was Herman's for awhile. Sure he'll need money, but any GOP nominee will have enough funds, used wisely, to compete in the fall. None will have as much as Obama, but even McCain's stash would have been enough had he fought as hard as his Veep and had he seen through TARP (which Santorum did.)

100 posted on 12/28/2011 1:56:25 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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