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Ex-aide calls Rep. Ron Paul's foreign policy views 'pure lunacy'
TheHill.com ^ | 27 Dec 11 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 12/27/2011 12:27:24 PM PST by seanmerc

A former congressional aide to Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) has written a piece slamming the presidential hopeful's foreign-policy views, calling them "pure lunacy" in an online post on the conservative website Rightwingnews.com.

The long piece by former aide Eric Dondero alleges awkward treatment by Paul of gays and Jews, but saves its strongest criticisms for his policy positions.

"It’s his foreign policy that’s the problem; not so much some stupid and whacky things on race and gays he may have said or written in the past," he writes.

Dondero writes that Paul does not believe Israel should exist, that the United States should not have gotten involved in World War II, that the government might have known beforehand about the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that he planned to vote against the war in Afghanistan before changing his mind for political reasons.

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1 posted on 12/27/2011 12:27:39 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
Dondero writes that Paul does not believe Israel should exist, that the United States should not have gotten involved in World War II, that the government might have known beforehand about the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that he planned to vote against the war in Afghanistan before changing his mind for political reasons.

Oh, and he thinks that traitor Bradley Manning is a hero.

Paul is a kook.

2 posted on 12/27/2011 12:35:58 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
"Paul is a kook." :-)
3 posted on 12/27/2011 12:38:21 PM PST by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Not much argument here.


4 posted on 12/27/2011 12:38:38 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: seanmerc

LOL! Too true. It is completely obvious that RP is a loon. Unfortunately we do have paulbots here, so there are some people around that still don’t get it.


5 posted on 12/27/2011 12:46:46 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: seanmerc
He strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that 'saving the Jews,' was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times [sic] brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand [sic], or that WWII was just 'blowback,' for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such."

While we could arguably have avoided fighting Hitler (300K out of 400K servicemen killed were lost fighting the European Axis powers), it's hard to see how we could have avoided fighting the Japanese. Say Roosevelt knew about Pearl Harbor in advance and had prepared a welcome committee, devastating the Japanese fleet. How would that have changed the fact that the Japanese committed an act of war using large naval forces against a major American installation? And what should the American reaction have been to the Japanese invasion of the Philippines (then US territory) that followed days later? Meekly surrender American men, equipment and territory to the Japanese?

6 posted on 12/27/2011 12:51:45 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: seanmerc

Cut and Run knows how perverted and disruptive gays are. He also wants to destroy America’s military. That is why he wants gays in the military.


7 posted on 12/27/2011 1:04:51 PM PST by John D
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To: Zhang Fei
While we could arguably have avoided fighting Hitler (300K out of 400K servicemen killed were lost fighting the European Axis powers), it's hard to see how we could have avoided fighting the Japanese.

Isolationists like Paul would argue we should have ignored Japanese aggression in Manchuria and never slapped the oil embargo on Imperial Japan. This is why people like Paul tend to blame America first.

Isolationists/libertarians tend to have a very naive view of the world. They think the US should basically react to nothing unless foreign troops literally land boots on our soil. If an ideological foe is arming itself to the teeth, Paul and his minions tend to believe you should just ignore the problem and it will go away. If we have a great relationship with some country that begins gassing it's population of undesirables, we should do nothing and maintain the status quo. Basically, isolationists are naive, not forward looking and do not believe morality should be a factor in foreign policy.

8 posted on 12/27/2011 1:12:58 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Zhang Fei
the Japanese invasion of the Philippines (then US territory) that followed days later

Actually 10 hours later. For all intents and purposes the attacks were simultaneous, proving your point.

9 posted on 12/27/2011 1:24:39 PM PST by wideawake
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To: seanmerc

in the last 2008 he stood there and said we needed to get rid of the CIA, FBI.

The man is a complete loon and it is time for every republican to not let this loon ever run on a republican ticket when clearly he’s not a republican but a libertarian.

Time to run AD’s on this loon and informing the public at how much he is a nut.


10 posted on 12/27/2011 1:27:30 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: Zhang Fei
While we could arguably have avoided fighting Hitler

No we could not have avoided fighting Hitler nor should we have. The topic of Hitler is a good one in that it separates out the rationale people from the kooks.

11 posted on 12/27/2011 1:39:41 PM PST by plain talk
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To: seanmerc
" ... We pump $40 billion a year into the Japanese economy by providing for essentially all of Japan’s defense. At the same time, Japan out competes us in the market, in effect subsidizing their exports, which then undermines our own domestic steel and auto industries. ..."

"Loyally standing by our ally Israel is in conflict with satisfying the Arab interests that are always represented by big business in each administration. We arm Jordan and Egypt, rescue the PLO (on two occasions), and guarantee that the American taxpayer will be funding both sides of any conflict in the Middle East. ..."

"Our official policy is currently is to be tough on communism, but at the same time promote lower-interests, allowing Red China to buy nuclear technology, F-16s and other military technology – all this by the strongest anti-Communist administration that we’ve had in decades ..."

"We subsidize Red China’s nuclear technology; at the same time, we allow Jane Fonda to ruin ours. ..."

"We continuously sacrifice ourselves to the world by assuming the role of world policeman, which precipitates international rises on a regular basis, all the while neglecting our own defenses. New planes go overseas while our Air National Guard is forced to use planes 20 years old ..."
Ron Paul, Congressional Record, 9/19/84

"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."
U.S. President Ronald Reagan
12 posted on 12/27/2011 1:47:17 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: seanmerc
Any time I have been able to track down the entire newletter referenced in a Ron Paul smear, the smear has been a dissembling partial truth.

Like him or not Paul, brings to the campaign serious questions that warrant discussion, questions about big government, how US taxpayer money is spent, foreign policy, the role of the Fed...

While my research thus far leads me to believe that Ron Paul is naive regarding the most basic motivation of Jihadis, consider the following:

GW kept reminding us that 'Islam is a religion of 'peace'. Never mentioned that Islam is a total political system and peace is achieved when there is a world wide caliphate under Sharia.

Ultimately Paul's foreign policy would be better for both Israel and Christianity.

While Israel would get no foreign aid, neither would its enemies:
2011 Interview

Newsmax: What should our relationship be with Israel?
Ron Paul:
We should be their friend and their trading partner. They are a democracy and we share many values with them. But we should not be their master. We should not dictate where their borders will be nor should we have veto power over their foreign policy.
... Stop and consider America’s policy: We give $3 billion a year to Israel in loans; and we give $12 billion or more in assistance to Israel’s self-declared enemies. Some of these are countries that say they will drive Israel into the sea.
... We should share intelligence for mutually agreed-upon goals. We should honor our pledge to refuse any arms sales that would undermine Israel’s qualitative military edge in the region.

As a result of nation building, promoting 'democracy' in the middle east, and PC immigration:

Iraq's Christians Near Extinction

Per Pamela Geller "US policy regarding the refugee resettlement program would shock most Americans if they only knew. The UN picks who becomes US refugees. Christians are being refused refugee status and face persecution and many times certain death for their religious beliefs under the sharia, while whole Muslim communities are entering the US by the tens of thousands per month despite the fact that they face no religious persecution"

Paul would stop funding the UN and pull us out of all treaties that impinge upon our sovereignty. His proposed budget would shut down entire federal bureaucracies while preserving military pensions. Could shutting don the tax payer funded trough be what has the political elite so p*ssed?
13 posted on 12/27/2011 1:48:19 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: plain talk
No we could not have avoided fighting Hitler nor should we have.

Could you elaborate on how we could not have avoided fighting Hitler?

14 posted on 12/27/2011 2:01:00 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Longbow1969
They think the US should basically react to nothing unless foreign troops literally land boots on our soil.

Who is this mythical force that could land troops on US soil? What in heavens name could they hope to accomplish? Even if they could get past our Navy and Air Force how will they get past the National Guard, the hundreds of thousands of armed local, state, and federal cops. How will they overcome the 80,000,000 private gun owners in this country? How will they absorb our nuclear retaliatory strike? I guess Paul plans to get rid of all the US armed forces and the 2nd Amendment.

How much more damage could this fantasy invasion do than the very real invasion of tens of millions of illegal aliens that Clinton/Bush/Obama have encouraged the past twenty years? How much damage could they do than the Banksters have already done to our economy.

Red China is a totalitarian slave gulag that murders and tortures its own people and the US government doesn't do anything except send them our industry and manufacturing and go into debt into them. The North Koreans are pretty awful too but we only sent them a couple of nuclear reactors. When are we going to invade North Korea and liberate those poor people?

15 posted on 12/27/2011 2:12:14 PM PST by Roninf5-1
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To: Zhang Fei
Assuming the UK government was completely defeated. Hitler would have demanded a presence if not direct control of Canada. Would we tolerate that or enforce the Monroe Doctrine? (The Monroe Doctrine only became a "dead letter" when we acquiesced to Soviet control of Cuba.) There is precedent for that with how Vichy France was dealt with by Nazi Germany. If the UK government had fled to Canada, as Churchill said he would do, war would come to the western hemisphere whether we liked it or not. Also remember we DID NOT declare war on Nazi Germany! Nazi Germany declared war on us after Pearl Harbor, in fact Hitler was annoyed he had to play second fiddle on declaring war on the US to the Japanese. Of course we did come back with our own declaration, but it was a “pro forma” thing.

“A war avoided is a war you a forced into at a later date to your disadvantage”

16 posted on 12/27/2011 2:19:29 PM PST by Reily
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To: algernonpj
Cut and Run has been in Washington for over a quarter century. If he is against all this why has he not done something? He talks much, does nothing.
I am still asking all the paulbots the same question. If America is as bad a place as the surrender monkey says it is, what has he done in the quarter century plus that he has been in Washington done to make it better. So far not one paulbot can answer.
17 posted on 12/27/2011 2:39:42 PM PST by John D
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To: seanmerc

18 posted on 12/27/2011 3:18:34 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: algernonpj

are you going to deny ron paul called for legalizing drugs, too??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHB2I83_N_k


19 posted on 12/27/2011 3:25:05 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Roninf5-1
Who is this mythical force that could land troops on US soil? What in heavens name could they hope to accomplish? Even if they could get past our Navy and Air Force how will they get past the National Guard, the hundreds of thousands of armed local, state, and federal cops. How will they overcome the 80,000,000 private gun owners in this country? How will they absorb our nuclear retaliatory strike? I guess Paul plans to get rid of all the US armed forces and the 2nd Amendment.

How much more damage could this fantasy invasion do than the very real invasion of tens of millions of illegal aliens that Clinton/Bush/Obama have encouraged the past twenty years? How much damage could they do than the Banksters have already done to our economy.

Red China is a totalitarian slave gulag that murders and tortures its own people and the US government doesn't do anything except send them our industry and manufacturing and go into debt into them. The North Koreans are pretty awful too but we only sent them a couple of nuclear reactors. When are we going to invade North Korea and liberate those poor people?


Bravo!!!
20 posted on 12/27/2011 3:32:22 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Roninf5-1
Red China is a totalitarian slave gulag that murders and tortures its own people and the US government doesn't do anything except send them our industry and manufacturing and go into debt into them.

FYI, Ron Paul feels that the US is a bigger currency manipulator than China, despite the $300b bilateral trade deficit, and opposes the imposition of tariffs on Chinese goods. Paul also gets an F on immigration from NumbersUSA, a lobbying group that wants to zero out immigration (legal and illegal), due to his stance that zeroing out entitlements, rather than immigration enforcement, is the way to deal with immigration issues. The problem, of course, is that entitlements are popular. If we have to wait for entitlements to be abolished, mass immigration will never end.

21 posted on 12/27/2011 3:38:44 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: RaceBannon

I don’t confuse advocating ending ‘The War on Drugs’ with promoting or condoning drug use.

OTH I wonder why do we have a War on Drugs while our northern and southern borders are sieves?


22 posted on 12/27/2011 3:40:44 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: seanmerc
he long piece by former aide Eric Dondero alleges awkward treatment by Paul of gays and Jews

I'm no fan of Paul's but having seen the comings and goings of Republican staffers over the years, I'm going to call "closet homo" on this Dondero guy. It's just a guess but it fits a pattern I've seen over and over again.

23 posted on 12/27/2011 3:51:44 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: algernonpj
OTH I wonder why do we have a War on Drugs while our northern and southern borders are sieves?

And the surrender monkey is advocating open boarders. What???
24 posted on 12/27/2011 3:54:34 PM PST by John D
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To: Roninf5-1
Who is this mythical force that could land troops on US soil? What in heavens name could they hope to accomplish?

You realize we are in this position because we have a powerful military that can project power and we tend to snuff out most threats before they become critical. Were it up to Ron Paul, things would be quite different. The last time we had a hollow military and a very weak foreign policy under Jimmy Carter, the dominoes were falling all over the world from Nicaragua to Angola to Afghanistan.

How much more damage could this fantasy invasion do than the very real invasion of tens of millions of illegal aliens that Clinton/Bush/Obama have encouraged the past twenty years?

Last I checked, Ron Paul opposed a wall on the southern border because of some goofy idea that it would be used to prevent Americans from escaping to Mexico. I highly doubt Paul would be any more effective against illegal immigration than any of those you listed.

How much damage could they do than the Banksters have already done to our economy.

Err, what is a "bankster" exactly? The only place I ever hear the term is from leftists who blame everything on some loopy globalist, "bankster" conspiracy. Do you find yourself worrying about The Bilderberger Group by chance?

Red China is a totalitarian slave gulag that murders and tortures its own people and the US government doesn't do anything except send them our industry and manufacturing and go into debt into them. The North Koreans are pretty awful too but we only sent them a couple of nuclear reactors. When are we going to invade North Korea and liberate those poor people?

Ah, the old fallacy that we can't do anything until we do everything. Heard it a million times, standard left wing boilerplate talking point. Can't do anything about Afghanistan unless we do something about Iran and North Korea. Can't do anything about Iraq, unless we do something about Syria and Somalia. This is standard left wing thinking, which is not surprising coming from Paul supporters considering Ron Paul basically argues for a leftist foreign and defense policies.

25 posted on 12/27/2011 4:05:23 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: RIghtwardHo

Wait. They’ll be here soon, the Ron Paul defenders. They show up every time his name is mentioned. Maybe they do it for a living. I suspect Jonathan P@#ard also employs them. Maybe it’s an entire sector in the service industry, and there are ads out there somewhere: “Wanted: Angry chimp to surf the web looking for my name. Applicants must be able to assert baldly, work tirelessly, and set up bogus IDs on blogs. Salary commensurate with experience.”


26 posted on 12/27/2011 4:22:06 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Diplomacy is war by other means.)
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To: Old Sarge

BTTT
:)


27 posted on 12/27/2011 4:24:15 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: seanmerc

RuPaul a nut on foreign policy, who would’ve guessed? All you have to do is Google his TV show appearances, that will tell you everything you need to know about this clown.


28 posted on 12/27/2011 4:27:40 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Old Sarge

BTTT
:)


29 posted on 12/27/2011 4:34:02 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: seanmerc
A flaming idiot and yet BETTER THAN BARACK OBAMA.
30 posted on 12/27/2011 4:39:32 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Many attempts were made over the years to kill Kim Jong il. This one may finally have succeeded.)
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To: seanmerc

Paul is ‘crazy’?

This is crazy:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/10/28/graphic-mapping-a-superpower-sized-military/


31 posted on 12/27/2011 4:44:30 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Merry Christmas, EGD!

Homo or not, Dondero was the “Libertarians for Giuliani” guy. A pompous goofball.


32 posted on 12/27/2011 4:45:34 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: seanmerc
This article minimizes the problem.

9/11 isn't foreign policy.

Ron Paul's supporters believe that something other than planes piloted by terrorists brought down the World Trade Center.

Ron Paul has never contradicted them.

Why not?

33 posted on 12/27/2011 4:45:49 PM PST by cmj328
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34 posted on 12/27/2011 4:46:24 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims¬óDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: seanmerc

It’s really a shame that some of the other candidates don’t pick up his fight against the Fed and his economic policies, because Paul does understand what is happening fiscally better than the others.

And if he runs as a third-party candidate, Obammie the Commie will win.

Why?

Because those of the Austrian school of economics and the Libertarians think this guy is John the Baptist and they worship the ground he walks on. They will definitely vote for him.

Too bad those same voters do not see how incredibly insane his foreign policy is. They truly believe that if we “stop meddling” in the world, we will have no enemies that want to destroy us. They are complete fools in this regard.


35 posted on 12/27/2011 5:36:12 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Karl Denninger has jumped the shark. Do not visit his blog.))
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To: algernonpj

because it’s fun for cops in every town to have a SWAT team and cool guns.


36 posted on 12/27/2011 6:06:55 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I love that this neo-nazi son of a bitch Ron Paul is finally getting what he deserves.


37 posted on 12/27/2011 6:50:59 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: manc

“Time to run AD’s on this loon and informing the public at how much he is a nut.”

That strategy is already being played out in the conservative media. The talking points are out there and the conservative media is doing what it can to pre-emptively defeat RP.

But it’s something of a hands-off, hiding-behind-surrogates approach and I’ll tell you why: the gop needs Ron Paul to stay in the gop. The gop establishment isn’t much concerned about a republican Ron Paul. They’re concerned about an unshackled Ron Paul who goes ahead and mounts a third party challenge. He has the money and the organization to do it, and they know it.


38 posted on 12/27/2011 6:51:44 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (The gop is as much a plantation for conservatives as the 'rat party is for blacks.)
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To: cmj328

“Ron Paul has never contradicted them.”

No?

Presidential Debate Carl Cameron: “...Many of your supporters are call themselves 9/11 Truthers...Sir, would you ask them to cease their [9/11 inside job] rhetoric on your behalf?

Paul: “Well, it doesn’t do me any good, so if they care about me they should [cease it].”

John Gibson Show on Fox News Radio September 14, 2007: John Gibson: “You have associated yourself in some ways with these people that they call 9/11 Truthers, who think that the U.S. government was in on the 9/11 attacks. Do you also believe that’s true?”

Paul: “No. And I wouldn’t say I associate with them; they associate with me. But there’s no way a candidate can control every thought process of everybody who supports him...”

Gibson: “But you go on Alex Jones’ show...Will you say right here and now that you completely disavow the 9/11 truth movement and the whole idea that the U.S. government was on in the 9/11 attack?”

Paul: “Yes I do...”

Interview with Julie Banderas on Fox News August 5, 2007: Julie Banderas: “Do you believe that the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was an inside job?”

Paul: “Well, the answer is no if they mean by ‘inside job’ that our government made it happen. No, I don’t believe that.”

Interview with Mike Gallagher July 19, 2007: Mike Gallagher: “Is it fair to say that you believe that there was some kind of either government conspiracy or cover-up involving September 11th, 2001”

Ron Paul: “No, not really. I never bring that up. Some people try to twist what I say and turn it into that. And I think some of my supporters lean in that direction, but that’s not my position. I do think government’s basically inept.

Interview with Shawn Wasson LiveLeak.com July 24,2007:

Wasson: “Your position then would be that as far as you’re concerned, the official story from 9/11 - and this is not about the government covering up their mistakes. This is about the suggestions from these people...that 9/11 was orchestrated by the government, you do not support that theory?”

Paul: “Absolutely not!”

Interview with Adam Curry on Daily Source Code October 24, 2007:

Adam Curry: “9/11 Conspiracy theories. Do you buy any of it Dr. Ron?”

Paul: “Not, not really. Not the kind that say well it was all conspired by our government and they did it for this purpose of us ushering in this War on Terrorism. No I don’t believe any of that.

Interview with Glenn Beck, December 18, 2007: Glenn Beck: “I have watched the interviews with you. You don’t leave any room for any doubt on a 9/11 conspiracy, but I’d just like to make it clear and ask you - and I don’t believe these need explanation unless I’ve read your answers wrong elsewhere - but, may I just run through these 9/11 conspiracies?: No plane hit the Pentagon on September 11th; instead, it was a missile fired by elements from inside the American state apparatus. Yes or no?”

Paul: “No. It’s preposterous.”

Beck: “The planes that hit the World Trade Center towers were remotely controlled.”

Paul: “[Shaking his head no and shugging his shoulders] I mean this is just bizarre. I’ve not even heard these challenges before.”

Beck: “O.K. I understand that. I don’t mean to - sir, these are the people that - some of these people speak in your name and they actually say that you will be on this program tonight and you will answer the way you are answering now because you can’t let on. They believe that you are part..of another kind of conspiracy to expose the conspiracy of 9/11 and the World Trade Center. Can you - I mean you you’d - I don’t know how you address people who are so deeply into conspiracy but can you?

Paul: “I, I don’t know what I would be - supposed to be doing. Uh, no. I mean I don’t think there’s any evidence..”

Beck: “Is there any evidence or is there any doubt in your mind that the United States government was not involved in the September 11th attacks - that we did not bring down World Trade Center number seven?”

Paul: “...I absolutely believe that is true - they did not. <...> No, I don’t believe that at all. I think it - I don’t think I should even have to answer questions like that [laugh].”

Beck: “Yes sir. I do not believe that this is your point of view, and I don’t believe that this is the point of view of most of your supporters - the vast, vast majority [of your supporters].”

Interview with Michael Medved on the Michaeld Medved Show. August 28, 2007:

Michael Medved: “Do you have any doubt, Congressman Ron Paul, that the horrors of 9/11 were perpetrated by 19 Arab young men working as agents of international terror in the form of Al-Qaida?”

Paul: “No. I don’t know of anybody that really questions that in a serious manner...To say that it was something somebody other than the Al-Qaida - and I don’t hear too many people saying that - but I’m sure there are people saying things like that and that there’s some type of conspiracy - but I think it’s pretty hard to refute airplanes plowing into a building. [chuckle]”

source:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/ron_paul_911_interviews.htm


39 posted on 12/27/2011 7:04:51 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Zhang Fei

As I said the topic of WWII is a useful subject to separate out the lunatics from rational people. There being nothing further to discuss I hope you have a nice evening.


40 posted on 12/27/2011 7:05:22 PM PST by plain talk
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To: seanmerc

Paul a kook on foreign policy? A self evident fact except to the young, naive, or intelligent.


41 posted on 12/27/2011 7:05:43 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: algernonpj

RONULANS usually miss the most obvious facts and instead bait and switch


42 posted on 12/27/2011 7:06:13 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon; algernonpj
are you going to deny ron paul called for legalizing drugs, too??

Can't have that, as it would put tens of thousands of government employees out of biz.

The only thing the WOD won, is a bigger, more controlling government, yet the drugs can be had anywhere.

It's allowed violent gangs to flourish are create all knew crime industries...lol..Can you imagine? Who would have ever thought?

Looks like big-gov roped a bunch of dopes into buying into their concocted WOD sham, which gave government a blank check and budget you'd never ever believe.

43 posted on 12/27/2011 7:06:13 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RaceBannon

Your courts now have more cash registers than your local Walmart...lol

It was a win win for big gov!


44 posted on 12/27/2011 7:12:16 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: seanmerc

I would like to see Ron Paul’s newsletters. I think it will be crystal clear one way or the other if this ex-aide is telling the truth.


45 posted on 12/27/2011 7:17:04 PM PST by this is my country
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To: seanmerc
It’s his foreign policy that’s the problem

Yeah, and look at our foreign polices with foreign neighbors Mexico for instance.

Top shelf diplomacy, runs like a Swiss watch and totally benefits the American citizens!

46 posted on 12/27/2011 7:21:14 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Policies too


47 posted on 12/27/2011 7:22:20 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: algernonpj
"Any time I have been able to track down the entire newletter referenced in a Ron Paul smear..."

LOL...Good for Paul. Live by the smear, die by the smear. Paul has run $2 million dollars worth of smears targetting Newt (and leaving Myth alone).

Couldn't happen to a nicer dirtbag.

Hank

48 posted on 12/27/2011 7:27:28 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away. Num)
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To: Longbow1969

“Paul is a kook.”

An increasingly dangerous one. The media hype of RP which grows daily is alarming.


49 posted on 12/27/2011 7:27:53 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: algernonpj
It has nothing to do with the elites, but has everything to do with Ron Paul. He is a kook - the old fashioned kind and he is a racist - the old fashioned kind. He is a stain on the Republican Party.
50 posted on 12/27/2011 7:36:04 PM PST by Dave W
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